You don't need a CWP to carry a weapon openly, you need it to carry one concealed. It's right there in the name.ASUG8 wrote:A few things:
* You need a CWP to carry a weapon legally
* Private venues have the right to restrict admission with a weapon even to a legal CWP carrier
* Some states don't allow carrying a weapon where alcohol is served, and you can't be carrying and consuming alcohol
* Tennessee doesn't have reciprocity with several states, meaning that even if they have a valid CWP in their state it isn't recognized in TN
* I can't generally go out of state and purchase a handgun, as state law requires me to have it shipped to an FFL in my area to handle the background check, etc.
In other words, it isn't hypocrisy if the attendees are following the laws of the state and the requirements of the venue.
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Can you find where I typed the word "openly" anywhere?Grizalltheway wrote:You don't need a CWP to carry a weapon openly, you need it to carry one concealed. It's right there in the name.ASUG8 wrote:A few things:
* You need a CWP to carry a weapon legally
* Private venues have the right to restrict admission with a weapon even to a legal CWP carrier
* Some states don't allow carrying a weapon where alcohol is served, and you can't be carrying and consuming alcohol
* Tennessee doesn't have reciprocity with several states, meaning that even if they have a valid CWP in their state it isn't recognized in TN
* I can't generally go out of state and purchase a handgun, as state law requires me to have it shipped to an FFL in my area to handle the background check, etc.
In other words, it isn't hypocrisy if the attendees are following the laws of the state and the requirements of the venue.
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They aren't allowing any type of operational weapons at the convention, open or concealed.ASUG8 wrote:Can you find where I typed the word "openly" anywhere?Grizalltheway wrote: You don't need a CWP to carry a weapon openly, you need it to carry one concealed. It's right there in the name.
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Yeah, I read that....no firing pins installed. In the first post.Grizalltheway wrote:They aren't allowing any type of operational weapons at the convention, open or concealed.ASUG8 wrote:
Can you find where I typed the word "openly" anywhere?
There aren't many states that allow open carry for non -LEO's.
Edit: More than I thought, but TN isn't one of them without a permit or license.
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Funny - you and your NRA circle jerk can tell yourself that, but you know I am correct about the NRA's hypocracy on this.Baldy wrote:![]()
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I'm not an NRA member and have no plans to become one, but I don't understand how convention-goers following state and federal laws that exist at the venue is hypocrisy.dbackjon wrote:Funny - you and your NRA circle jerk can tell yourself that, but you know I am correct about the NRA's hypocracy on this.Baldy wrote:![]()
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Belonged to the NRA about 20 years ago, was young and naive, and thinking they were looking out for hunters like me.. Soon tired of their extreme views and politics, and never renewed again.
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commandment #1 of gun safety is not carrying when under the influence of alcohol, and the NRA does promote firearms safety, so yeah - i can think of a few instances where it would not be hypocritical for the NRA to limit firearms possession at certain events or venuesChizzang wrote:Fair enough ^ and agreed,93henfan wrote:Posting part of the story is always convenient.
Licensed carriers will be allowed to carry at the main convention space in the Music City Center. Firearms are prohibited at the nightly concerts across the street at the Bridgesone Arena, which bans firearms and serves alcohol. The Bridgestone Arena will have armed security, so there goes your good guys with guns spiel.
Game, set, match. Next.
But you are saying there are absolutely times and places where firearms should be restricted..?
lest we not forget that little gem - as dictated by the NRA
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actually you are as wrong as your spelling of the word hypocrisydbackjon wrote:Funny - you and your NRA circle jerk can tell yourself that, but you know I am correct about the NRA's hypocracy on this.Baldy wrote:![]()
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Because you're more likely to be killed by a gun in Tennessee than by a car?dbackjon wrote:6. Security
A multilevel security plan went into works not long after Nashville was chosen as the convention destination. All guns on the convention floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed, and any guns purchased during the NRA convention will have to be picked up at a Federal Firearms License dealer, near where the purchaser lives, and will require a legal identification.
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Why are they doing this? Don't they trust their own members? **** hypocrites.
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Okay,93henfan wrote:Of course we are. Where there's alcohol or drugs or any place where they're banned by law. Even private establishments where the mebers vote not to allow them.Chizzang wrote:
Fair enough ^ and agreed,
But you are saying there are absolutely times and places where firearms should be restricted..?
lest we not forget that little gem - as dictated by the NRA
It's simple really.
So this is a slight (but important) change in the NRA stance
I have no issues with that
Carry on gentlemen....
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travelinman67 wrote:D1Backjon wrote: ...Jon for the win.
I am honored with that comparison.
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NRA-backed legislation in Arkansas:
Arkansas' gun-free zones would drastically shrink under a bill to allow concealed weapons at bars, churches, schools, polling locations, local government meetings, the state Capitol and other prohibited places.
Republican Rep. Dan Sullivan of Jonesboro said Tuesday that his omnibus gun bill modifies various sections of state law to expand on places where people with concealed carry licenses can bring their weapons.
The bill would allow K-12 faculty or staff to bring their firearms onto school property but not into classrooms. It would allow firearms at sporting events not hosted by schools or universities. Liquor stores, highway department buildings, and the Arkansas Justice Building where the state Supreme Court meets would no longer be gun-free areas.
"It's an issue of personal freedom and personal rights and allowing law-abiding qualified people to carry in more places," Sullivan said.
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NRA backed bill in Georgia...
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a wide-ranging gun bill into law Wednesday that has critics howling and proponents applauding.
House Bill 60, or the Safe Carry Protection Act of 2014 -- which opponents have nicknamed the "guns everywhere bill" -- specifies where Georgia residents can carry weapons. Included are provisions that allow residents who have concealed carry permits to take guns into some bars, churches, school zones, government buildings and certain parts of airports.
Tennessee:
According to one Tennessee GOP representative, the NRA threatened to withdraw endorsements if legislators voted against the bill allowing residents to carry guns in bars. “This line of reasoning borders on lunacy,” he said, adding, “What line will we not cross for the NRA? At what point do we say that’s too much?”
Game, set, match DbackJon again.
Arkansas' gun-free zones would drastically shrink under a bill to allow concealed weapons at bars, churches, schools, polling locations, local government meetings, the state Capitol and other prohibited places.
Republican Rep. Dan Sullivan of Jonesboro said Tuesday that his omnibus gun bill modifies various sections of state law to expand on places where people with concealed carry licenses can bring their weapons.
The bill would allow K-12 faculty or staff to bring their firearms onto school property but not into classrooms. It would allow firearms at sporting events not hosted by schools or universities. Liquor stores, highway department buildings, and the Arkansas Justice Building where the state Supreme Court meets would no longer be gun-free areas.
"It's an issue of personal freedom and personal rights and allowing law-abiding qualified people to carry in more places," Sullivan said.
Read more: The Courier - Your Messenger for the River Valley
NRA backed bill in Georgia...
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a wide-ranging gun bill into law Wednesday that has critics howling and proponents applauding.
House Bill 60, or the Safe Carry Protection Act of 2014 -- which opponents have nicknamed the "guns everywhere bill" -- specifies where Georgia residents can carry weapons. Included are provisions that allow residents who have concealed carry permits to take guns into some bars, churches, school zones, government buildings and certain parts of airports.
Tennessee:
According to one Tennessee GOP representative, the NRA threatened to withdraw endorsements if legislators voted against the bill allowing residents to carry guns in bars. “This line of reasoning borders on lunacy,” he said, adding, “What line will we not cross for the NRA? At what point do we say that’s too much?”
Game, set, match DbackJon again.
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Fail. You were already schooled, and you offer nothing new with that post.dbackjon wrote: Game, set, match DbackJon again.
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93henfan wrote:Fail. You were already schooled, and you offer nothing new with that post.dbackjon wrote: Game, set, match DbackJon again.
LOL - only you and T-man can lose an argument but declare victory.
If it makes you feel better
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We have crushed you here, but you refuse to admit your defeat. We've seen this over and over again with you, so it's not a shock really.dbackjon wrote:93henfan wrote:
Fail. You were already schooled, and you offer nothing new with that post.
LOL - only you and T-man can lose an argument but declare victory.
If it makes you feel better
Your original point in the thread seemed to be that the NRA was somehow restricting gun rights at its own convention (i.e. not allowing carry where it is normally allowed) and that was disproven.
Now you seem to be making some new point about the NRA backing legislation to encourage the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms. It seems that you are saying that the NRA is doing its job. What is your point there?
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Dback is siding with lesbianism. The bad kind. He loses this thread. /thread
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andy7171 wrote:Dback is siding with lesbianism. The bad kind. He loses this thread. /thread
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You need to get out more, Andy. The correct term is vagitarian.andy7171 wrote:Dback is siding with lesbianism. The bad kind. He loses this thread. /thread
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Has anyone on this forum ever actually admitted defeat? Unless you consider pissing back and forth until one or both parties get bored admitting defeat. 
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I do believe I said I voted for Dubya and Obama once each. So yes, I admit multiple defeats.Grizalltheway wrote:Has anyone on this forum ever actually admitted defeat? Unless you consider pissing back and forth until one or both parties get bored admitting defeat.
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I've lost a metric sh!t load of arguments on this forum....Grizalltheway wrote:Has anyone on this forum ever actually admitted defeat? Unless you consider pissing back and forth until one or both parties get bored admitting defeat.
My arguments are kinda like this:

Dbacks are like this:

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T-mans are like this:


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