Since it works it's way in so much, perhaps you can give me 5-10 examples of law based on religion in the US. Should only take you a minute.Vidav wrote:I have no doubt that all religion is false bullshit created by man. I find none of it comforting or any of that shit. If you need some greater power to make you feel good about yourself, go with it. However religion pisses me off because it works its way into our government so much.
You want to worship fake crap, fine. But don't use that same fake crap to try and change laws, asshole.
If you don't want me to say bad things about your religion then stop trying to use it to change public policy.
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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
Hobby Lobby comes to mind...... whether they're succeeding or not we have plenty of religion-driven lawmakers continually seeking special treatment for members of one religious cult over the other religious cults.89Hen wrote:Since it works it's way in so much, perhaps you can give me 5-10 examples of law based on religion in the US. Should only take you a minute.Vidav wrote:I have no doubt that all religion is false bullshit created by man. I find none of it comforting or any of that ****. If you need some greater power to make you feel good about yourself, go with it. However religion pisses me off because it works its way into our government so much.
You want to worship fake crap, fine. But don't use that same fake crap to try and change laws, asshole.
If you don't want me to say bad things about your religion then stop trying to use it to change public policy.
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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
Technically this is preventing a law from infringing on a religious belief. Don't forget it's not just freedom from religion.houndawg wrote:Hobby Lobby comes to mind...... whether they're succeeding or not we have plenty of religion-driven lawmakers continually seeking special treatment for members of one religious cult over the other religious cults.89Hen wrote: Since it works it's way in so much, perhaps you can give me 5-10 examples of law based on religion in the US. Should only take you a minute.

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LMAO! What a fucking dolt!89Hen wrote:Technically this is preventing a law from infringing on a religious belief. Don't forget it's not just freedom from religion.houndawg wrote:
Hobby Lobby comes to mind...... whether they're succeeding or not we have plenty of religion-driven lawmakers continually seeking special treatment for members of one religious cult over the other religious cults.
You've got to be kidding! From reproductive rights to teaching creationism to the state of Utah to non taxation and immunity from financial transparency for churches, blue laws, public prayers, immunity from mandatory reporting of child abuse....
Hen - fundamentalist dipshit.
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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
You haven't pointed out any laws so far.D1B wrote:LMAO! What a fucking dolt!89Hen wrote: Technically this is preventing a law from infringing on a religious belief. Don't forget it's not just freedom from religion.
You've got to be kidding! From reproductive rights to teaching creationism to the state of Utah to non taxation and immunity from financial transparency for churches, blue laws, public prayers, immunity from mandatory reporting of child abuse....
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Can't brew beer above 4% ABV in Utah, nor can you purchase it before 10 a.m., thanks to the Mormon cocksuckers.89Hen wrote:You haven't pointed out any laws so far.D1B wrote:
LMAO! What a fucking dolt!
You've got to be kidding! From reproductive rights to teaching creationism to the state of Utah to non taxation and immunity from financial transparency for churches, blue laws, public prayers, immunity from mandatory reporting of child abuse....
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That's why I don't live there.Grizalltheway wrote:Can't brew beer above 4% ABV in Utah, nor can you purchase it before 10 a.m., thanks to the Mormon cocksuckers.

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Used to work for a company with a branch in Spanish Fork, UT, and I'm not joking when I say that Salt Lake City is the most boring city in our fair nation, as in reading Ayn Rand boring.
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Yeah, I used to go there every six weeks for work and I would have to agree, although I do remember brewers making higher than 4% abv beer.houndawg wrote:Used to work for a company with a branch in Spanish Fork, UT, and I'm not joking when I say that Salt Lake City is the most boring city in our fair nation, as in reading Ayn Rand boring.
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Sure have. Try again. Focus.89Hen wrote:You haven't pointed out any laws so far.D1B wrote:
LMAO! What a fucking dolt!
You've got to be kidding! From reproductive rights to teaching creationism to the state of Utah to non taxation and immunity from financial transparency for churches, blue laws, public prayers, immunity from mandatory reporting of child abuse....
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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
Looky, looky who's talking bout religion based laws limiting freedom.89Hen wrote:That's why I don't live there.Grizalltheway wrote:Can't brew beer above 4% ABV in Utah, nor can you purchase it before 10 a.m., thanks to the Mormon cocksuckers.Most blue laws are VERY old and if anything they are disappearing, not increasing.
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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
And what do you propose they use?If you don't want me to say bad things about your religion then stop trying to use it to change public policy.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
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And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
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On the Hobby Lobby thing:
Remember what is going on to begin with. We have the Federal government telling private employers that they have to provide health insurance to employees. That's absurd. There's no way that's consistent with the what this Country was supposed to be about. No way it's really supported by the Constitution as it was written and as it was intended. If you'd have gone to any point in time when Constitutional language was being written and ratified and suggested to the people involved that what they were doing gave the Federal government the power to tell private employers that they had to provide their employees with insurance they'd have said you are nuts.
Meanwhile we have an explicit Constitutional amendment saying Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free practice of religion. How can you possibly square a law requiring that someone provide something to someone else in violation of their religious beliefs with that? You can't if you're intellectually honest. It should not even be a question.
And no this is not like, say, someone saying their religion calls for human sacrifice and therefore they can sacrifice somebody. Human sacrifice is a positive attack on somebody else. That's a lot different than saying somebody HAS to PROVIDE something to somebody else in violation of their beliefs. You're not attacking somebody by opting not to give them something.
Remember what is going on to begin with. We have the Federal government telling private employers that they have to provide health insurance to employees. That's absurd. There's no way that's consistent with the what this Country was supposed to be about. No way it's really supported by the Constitution as it was written and as it was intended. If you'd have gone to any point in time when Constitutional language was being written and ratified and suggested to the people involved that what they were doing gave the Federal government the power to tell private employers that they had to provide their employees with insurance they'd have said you are nuts.
Meanwhile we have an explicit Constitutional amendment saying Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free practice of religion. How can you possibly square a law requiring that someone provide something to someone else in violation of their religious beliefs with that? You can't if you're intellectually honest. It should not even be a question.
And no this is not like, say, someone saying their religion calls for human sacrifice and therefore they can sacrifice somebody. Human sacrifice is a positive attack on somebody else. That's a lot different than saying somebody HAS to PROVIDE something to somebody else in violation of their beliefs. You're not attacking somebody by opting not to give them something.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
Deep Purple: No One Came

And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
Deep Purple: No One Came

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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
Logic and common sense.JohnStOnge wrote:And what do you propose they use?If you don't want me to say bad things about your religion then stop trying to use it to change public policy.
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To use logic you have to have premises. Where do you propose the premises come from?Logic and common sense.
Actually to use common sense you have to have premises too.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
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And say things as they really are
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Could I ever be a star?
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Next to Carbondale.houndawg wrote:Used to work for a company with a branch in Spanish Fork, UT, and I'm not joking when I say that Salt Lake City is the most boring city in our fair nation, as in reading Ayn Rand boring.
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Carbondale PA or Carbondale IL?
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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
Another interesting question might be which other religions/denominations are you accepting of?
Islam
Protestants
Catholics
Wiccan
Animists
Buddhists
Atheists
?
Islam
Protestants
Catholics
Wiccan
Animists
Buddhists
Atheists
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The latter.JoltinJoe wrote:Carbondale PA or Carbondale IL?
“I’m tired and done.” — 89Hen 3/27/22.
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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
Alrighty, then! Start a new thread!kalm wrote:Another interesting question might be which other religions/denominations are you accepting of?
Islam
Protestants
Catholics
Wiccan
Animists
Buddhists
Atheists
?
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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
No. Logic doesn't require religion.JohnStOnge wrote:To use logic you have to have premises. Where do you propose the premises come from?Logic and common sense.
Actually to use common sense you have to have premises too.
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Call me next time you're around and I'll show you the good stuff, assuming you like outdoor recreation, great live music, and kick ass Mexican food. If you're one of them simpering east coast elite types like your handle suggests, I might be able to hook you up with the local chess club.Ivytalk wrote:Next to Carbondale.houndawg wrote:Used to work for a company with a branch in Spanish Fork, UT, and I'm not joking when I say that Salt Lake City is the most boring city in our fair nation, as in reading Ayn Rand boring.
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Carbondale, CO.JoltinJoe wrote:Carbondale PA or Carbondale IL?
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Blue laws. That's it. Archaic and disappearing. Where are the 5-10 I asked for?D1B wrote:Sure have. Try again. Focus.89Hen wrote: You haven't pointed out any laws so far.

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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...
He could provide 5-10, and you'd ask for 10-20, you obstinate SOB.89Hen wrote:Blue laws. That's it. Archaic and disappearing. Where are the 5-10 I asked for?D1B wrote:
Sure have. Try again. Focus.




