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And that meme shows exactly why the pro-abortion folks don't get it. 

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So...let's see...if you say a woman doesn't have a right to kill her own progeny that means you're saying she's not a person? Is that what that means?
Or maybe saying that other people shouldn't have to pay for a woman's contraception is saying she's not a person?
You do realize that taking either of those positions is pretty ridiculous, right?
Or maybe saying that other people shouldn't have to pay for a woman's contraception is saying she's not a person?
You do realize that taking either of those positions is pretty ridiculous, right?
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The only people who are pro abortion are congressional conks after a weekend bender...at least the straight ones...89Hen wrote:And that meme shows exactly why the pro-abortion folks don't get it.
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So no one?kalm wrote:The only people who are pro abortion are congressional conks after a weekend bender...at least the straight ones...89Hen wrote:And that meme shows exactly why the pro-abortion folks don't get it.
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Anyone who is pro-choice has to believe that abortion is not murder. Can you argue otherwise?kalm wrote:The only people who are pro abortion...89Hen wrote:And that meme shows exactly why the pro-abortion folks don't get it.

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No, it's saying that Republicans give more value and rights to unborn babies and corporations than it does to women aka abortion rights.JohnStOnge wrote:So...let's see...if you say a woman doesn't have a right to kill her own progeny that means you're saying she's not a person? Is that what that means?
Or maybe saying that other people shouldn't have to pay for a woman's contraception is saying she's not a person?
You do realize that taking either of those positions is pretty ridiculous, right?
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Maybe that's what it's saying, but that doesn't make it true.Ibanez wrote:No, it's saying that Republicans give more value and rights to unborn babies and corporations than it does to women aka abortion rights.JohnStOnge wrote:So...let's see...if you say a woman doesn't have a right to kill her own progeny that means you're saying she's not a person? Is that what that means?
Or maybe saying that other people shouldn't have to pay for a woman's contraception is saying she's not a person?
You do realize that taking either of those positions is pretty ridiculous, right?

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That's how I understand that cleverly crafted meme.89Hen wrote:Maybe that's what it's saying, but that doesn't make it true.Ibanez wrote: No, it's saying that Republicans give more value and rights to unborn babies and corporations than it does to women aka abortion rights.
Not saying I agree, just an explanation.
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Re: Conks and Reproductive Rights, II
Yeah, all none of em.kalm wrote:The only people who are pro abortion are congressional conks after a weekend bender...at least the straight ones...89Hen wrote:And that meme shows exactly why the pro-abortion folks don't get it.
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Re: Conks and Reproductive Rights, II
Conk Disease - the inability to show or understand empathy. Usually caused by one dimensional thinking, lack of critical ethical inquiry and lack of creativity.89Hen wrote:And that meme shows exactly why the pro-abortion folks don't get it.
In this case, they have no clue that unwanted pregnancy is a scourge to women and often ruins their lives. Their black and white world view (a fetus is a person, therefore abortion is murder) is a cop out to avoid understanding tough, complex issues and doing the right thing, even if it's unpalatable to their checkbook or ravenous desire for power and control.
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Re: Conks and Reproductive Rights, II
Depends on exactly what you mean by "Don't get it"89Hen wrote:And that meme shows exactly why the pro-abortion folks don't get it.
Because sometimes the chasm between the two sides is so far apart neither side seems to "get it"
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Actually for it to make sense, there would have to be a situation in which people were saying that a woman has no right to life and no right to exercise free speech through contributions to the candidate of her choice.No, it's saying that Republicans give more value and rights to unborn babies and corporations than it does to women aka abortion rights.
The issue of abortion rights revolves around the nature of the unborn. If you recognize the truth...that abortion is the killing of a living member of our species...you SHOULD be able to see why it makes sense to say a woman can't elect to have somebody do that. It is no more a denial of rights than saying I can't kill my wife because I'm tired of being married is.
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Re: Conks and Reproductive Rights, II
I'd love to hear your definition of a "person". I don't pretend to know the exact moment and that's why I'm against abortion at any point. How can you say at day 89 of a pregnancy it's OK, but at day 90 it's not? We're not talking about granting a driver's license or some other privilege where we arbitrarily set an age for granting that privilege, we're talking about THE most basic right... life.D1B wrote:In this case, they have no clue that unwanted pregnancy is a scourge to women and often ruins their lives. Their black and white world view (a fetus is a person, therefore abortion is murder)
BTW, a conviction of DUI can ruin your life too, even if you're caught without hurting a single person. Perhaps we should do away with those convictions. We wouldn't want to infringe on somebody's bad choices they made themselves.

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That still doesn't make them pro abortion.89Hen wrote:Anyone who is pro-choice has to believe that abortion is not murder. Can you argue otherwise?kalm wrote:
The only people who are pro abortion...
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Jesus H. Christ. Cry me a fucking river....D1B wrote:Conk Disease - the inability to show or understand empathy. Usually caused by one dimensional thinking, lack of critical ethical inquiry and lack of creativity.89Hen wrote:And that meme shows exactly why the pro-abortion folks don't get it.
In this case, they have no clue that unwanted pregnancy is a scourge to women and often ruins their lives. Their black and white world view (a fetus is a person, therefore abortion is murder) is a cop out to avoid understanding tough, complex issues and doing the right thing, even if it's unpalatable to their checkbook or ravenous desire for power and control.
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Gun control
Hispanic Immigration
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The war on drugs
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Organized religion and separation of church and state
Taxes
Supply side economics and Ayn Rand
Homosexuality
The plight of the black man
The prison industrial complex
Military spending
Marijuana
The youth of America
The fine arts
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Re: Conks and Reproductive Rights, II
kalm,kalm wrote:That still doesn't make them pro abortion.89Hen wrote: Anyone who is pro-choice has to believe that abortion is not murder. Can you argue otherwise?
Why do groups like planed parenthood oppose required ultrasound scans for anyone seeking an abortion? Don't they claim they want women to make informed decisions? Why not make sure that they are informed about the development of the unborn baby? The answer is that they don't want women to dither because what they have been told is a blob might too closely resemble a baby for their liking.
Why does planned parenthood think a 14-year-old can make a decision about abortions when they can't make practically any other decision about health care? Abortion is health care according to the pro-abortion folks, so why don't they need parents permission for a procedure that is 100% elective in the vast majority of cases? And why does pp go so far as to try and cover up cases of statutory rape?
Also, do you think the grey-haired, white-male billionaires who help bankroll planned parenthood do so because they care about women's health and children? F*** no. They do that because they are a part of the Malthusian religion.
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It certainly makes them OK with it.kalm wrote:That still doesn't make them pro abortion.89Hen wrote: Anyone who is pro-choice has to believe that abortion is not murder. Can you argue otherwise?

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ha hakalm wrote:That still doesn't make them pro abortion.89Hen wrote: Anyone who is pro-choice has to believe that abortion is not murder. Can you argue otherwise?
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89Hen wrote:It certainly makes them OK with it.kalm wrote:
That still doesn't make them pro abortion.
Why does the value of life take on such monumental proportion when it comes to the fetus and yet, take on lesser value in other regards and situations..?
The holy cluster globule inside some other woman's body is the most important "thing" in the world to be debated somehow..?
When do we place the same general value on a globule of potential life as we do on another life in general?
why are Conservatives so OVER LOADED with values in this one little area
Odd frankly...
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Actually, I know others' mileage differs with my own, but my moral objection to abortion begins when the fetus becomes viable and/or has been scientifically proven to be capable of pain and sufferingChizzang wrote:89Hen wrote: It certainly makes them OK with it.
Why does the value of life take on such monumental proportion when it comes to the fetus and yet, take on lesser value in other regards and situations..?
The holy cluster globule inside some other woman's body is the most important "thing" in the world to be debated somehow..?
When do we place the same general value on a globule of potential life as we do on another life in general?
why are Conservatives so OVER LOADED with values in this one little area
Odd frankly...
So I'm willing to meet women halfway on the abortion issue- suck those little clumpy globules out all you want
But there is a point beyond which I consider it killing and I think that right now, that 20 week gestational line is a good benchmark.
And yes I'm a man and fvck you I am entitled to an opinion on it just as men were entitled to opinions on the gassing of Jews
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CID1990 wrote:Actually, I know others' mileage differs with my own, but my moral objection to abortion begins when the fetus becomes viable and/or has been scientifically proven to be capable of pain and sufferingChizzang wrote:
Why does the value of life take on such monumental proportion when it comes to the fetus and yet, take on lesser value in other regards and situations..?
The holy cluster globule inside some other woman's body is the most important "thing" in the world to be debated somehow..?
When do we place the same general value on a globule of potential life as we do on another life in general?
why are Conservatives so OVER LOADED with values in this one little area
Odd frankly...
So I'm willing to meet women halfway on the abortion issue- suck those little clumpy globules out all you want
But there is a point beyond which I consider it killing and I think that right now, that 20 week gestational line is a good benchmark.
And yes I'm a man and fvck you I am entitled to an opinion on it just as men were entitled to opinions on the gassing of Jews
I am not far from where you stand...
The issue for me is always "is it capable of suffering" so animal rights / human rights / etc...
It's all about the capacity to suffer
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In my opinion 20 weeks is LATE to have an abortion
Most women know they are pregnant within 8 weeks
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