You need to study more history. Probably fascism too.Baldy wrote:Ummmm yeah, its called Fascism, and yes it is terrifying. History has proven that.kalm wrote: The very thought of progressive minded capitalists is terrifying!
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...and you need to study econimics, political science, capitalism, among others. Those are a good start though.kalm wrote:You need to study more history. Probably fascism too.Baldy wrote:
Ummmm yeah, its called Fascism, and yes it is terrifying. History has proven that.
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Marx was right.
The hippies are right.
The hippies are right.
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Define fascism for us please. Use historical examples as they relate modern American entrepreneurial progressives....Baldy wrote:...and you need to study econimics, political science, capitalism, among others. Those are a good start though.kalm wrote:
You need to study more history. Probably fascism too.
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Kalm, with your limited understanding of government, please provide a link to a source which explains why you should be allowed to waste other poster's time with parrot-like, prepubescent, "But, why?" nonsense?kalm wrote:Define fascism for us please. Use historical examples as they relate modern American entrepreneurial progressives....Baldy wrote: ...and you need to study econimics, political science, capitalism, among others. Those are a good start though.![]()
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Huh? You're not even remotely making sense now…:dunce:travelinman67 wrote:Kalm, with your limited understanding of government, please provide a link to a source which explains why you should be allowed to waste other poster's time with parrot-like, prepubescent, "But, why?" nonsense?kalm wrote:
Define fascism for us please. Use historical examples as they relate modern American entrepreneurial progressives....![]()
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travelinman67 wrote:Kalm, with your limited understanding of government, please provide a link to a source which explains why you should be allowed to waste other poster's time with parrot-like, prepubescent, "But, why?" nonsense?kalm wrote:
Define fascism for us please. Use historical examples as they relate modern American entrepreneurial progressives....![]()
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kalm wrote:Define fascism for us please. Use historical examples as they relate modern American entrepreneurial progressives....Baldy wrote: ...and you need to study econimics, political science, capitalism, among others. Those are a good start though.![]()
"Modern American entrepreneurial progressives"????
kalm, I'm not talking about the exception to the rule or the oddball fringe. I'm talking about the ideological core. Both believe in big government control ruled by a powerful executive who renders the liberty of the individual and individual rights and liberties subservient to the collective. To the opposite, the sanctity of the individual is a core tenant of capitalism. Centralized control of markets, extensive government regulation, cronyism...payola, etc. To progressives, capitalism is just a tool to be used to give favorable treatment to certain industries in order to induce social, political and economic change.
There is no need to make a big laundry list of comparisons, because even you won't admit it, you know they are there. Even your Gods of progressivism...Wilson, Roosevelt (both of them) were huge fans of Fascist philosophies.
Please, put your stupid little emoticons away. No matter how much you try, they aren't going to save you in this argument.
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And here my uncles were, fighting fascism a half world away when they could have been fighting it at home.Baldy wrote:kalm wrote:
Define fascism for us please. Use historical examples as they relate modern American entrepreneurial progressives....![]()
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"Modern American entrepreneurial progressives"????![]()
kalm, I'm not talking about the exception to the rule or the oddball fringe. I'm talking about the ideological core. Both believe in big government control ruled by a powerful executive who renders the liberty of the individual and individual rights and liberties subservient to the collective. To the opposite, the sanctity of the individual is a core tenant of capitalism. Centralized control of markets, extensive government regulation, cronyism...payola, etc. To progressives, capitalism is just a tool to be used to give favorable treatment to certain industries in order to induce social, political and economic change.
There is no need to make a big laundry list of comparisons, because even you won't admit it, you know they are there. Even your Gods of progressivism...Wilson, Roosevelt (both of them) were huge fans of Fascist philosophies.
Please, put your stupid little emoticons away. No matter how much you try, they aren't going to save you in this argument.
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I had so much hope. You can do better than that pathetic response.kalm wrote:And here my uncles were, fighting fascism a half world away when they could have been fighting it at home.Baldy wrote:![]()
"Modern American entrepreneurial progressives"????![]()
kalm, I'm not talking about the exception to the rule or the oddball fringe. I'm talking about the ideological core. Both believe in big government control ruled by a powerful executive who renders the liberty of the individual and individual rights and liberties subservient to the collective. To the opposite, the sanctity of the individual is a core tenant of capitalism. Centralized control of markets, extensive government regulation, cronyism...payola, etc. To progressives, capitalism is just a tool to be used to give favorable treatment to certain industries in order to induce social, political and economic change.
There is no need to make a big laundry list of comparisons, because even you won't admit it, you know they are there. Even your Gods of progressivism...Wilson, Roosevelt (both of them) were huge fans of Fascist philosophies.
Please, put your stupid little emoticons away. No matter how much you try, they aren't going to save you in this argument.
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No, that's his tapout. He has a bag ful of them.Baldy wrote:I had so much hope. You can do better than that pathetic response.kalm wrote:
And here my uncles were, fighting fascism a half world away when they could have been fighting it at home.
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Baldy wrote:
"Modern American entrepreneurial progressives"????![]()
kalm, I'm not talking about the exception to the rule or the oddball fringe. I'm talking about the ideological core. Both believe in big government control ruled by a powerful executive who renders the liberty of the individual and individual rights and liberties subservient to the collective. To the opposite, the sanctity of the individual is a core tenant of capitalism. Centralized control of markets, extensive government regulation, cronyism...payola, etc. To progressives, capitalism is just a tool to be used to give favorable treatment to certain industries in order to induce social, political and economic change.
There is no need to make a big laundry list of comparisons, because even you won't admit it, you know they are there. Even your Gods of progressivism...Wilson, Roosevelt (both of them) were huge fans of Fascist philosophies.
Please, put your stupid little emoticons away. No matter how much you try, they aren't going to save you in this argument.
This ^ sounds like Glenn Beck

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Glenn is just bemoaning the losses in his gold portfolio.Chizzang wrote:Baldy wrote:
"Modern American entrepreneurial progressives"????![]()
kalm, I'm not talking about the exception to the rule or the oddball fringe. I'm talking about the ideological core. Both believe in big government control ruled by a powerful executive who renders the liberty of the individual and individual rights and liberties subservient to the collective. To the opposite, the sanctity of the individual is a core tenant of capitalism. Centralized control of markets, extensive government regulation, cronyism...payola, etc. To progressives, capitalism is just a tool to be used to give favorable treatment to certain industries in order to induce social, political and economic change.
There is no need to make a big laundry list of comparisons, because even you won't admit it, you know they are there. Even your Gods of progressivism...Wilson, Roosevelt (both of them) were huge fans of Fascist philosophies.
Please, put your stupid little emoticons away. No matter how much you try, they aren't going to save you in this argument.
This ^ sounds like Glenn Beck
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Said the king of pot shots.CID1990 wrote:No, that's his tapout. He has a bag ful of them.Baldy wrote: I had so much hope. You can do better than that pathetic response.
Care to expand on Baldy's point that progressive minded Silicon Valley entrepreneurs are fascists?
Perhaps you can speak to how Roosevelt's policies led to fascism?
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A couple of false premises implied here. There is no general trend towards a "shrinking" middle class and "wealth inequality" does not have to mean the the "middle class," however that is reasonably defined, has less buying power.A few weeks ago I was visited in my office by the chairman of one of the country's biggest high-tech firms who wanted to talk about the causes and consequences of widening inequality and the shrinking middle class, and what to do about it.
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But it does currently mean just that.JohnStOnge wrote:A couple of false premises implied here. There is no general trend towards a "shrinking" middle class and "wealth inequality" does not have to mean the the "middle class," however that is reasonably defined, has less buying power.A few weeks ago I was visited in my office by the chairman of one of the country's biggest high-tech firms who wanted to talk about the causes and consequences of widening inequality and the shrinking middle class, and what to do about it.




