2012 Nominee - Romney
2008 Nominee - McCain
Now admittedly they moved right during the primary, but they certainly are not the right wing of the party


CAA Flagship wrote:I think he was referring to BHO there.GannonFan wrote:
Uh, while I like the boost in perception, Christie is a Delaware alumni - unless something's changed recently, Delaware is not a member of the Ivy League.

Eh, his rant against East Coast people was hard to follow. He kept shifting his angst.Cluck U wrote:CAA Flagship wrote: I think he was referring to BHO there.![]()
One of the few times gf wasn't on target.

I agree with this sentiment and hence why Christy is still a very possible choice (heck, Jeb Bush as well). The whacko right of the Republican party is given too much credit for being able to skew the primaries - people said Romney didn't have a prayer (pun intended) of getting through and lo and behold he did. If the whacko right was as strong as people make it out to be then guys like Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee would be the eventual candidates, and yet they never make it through the primaries that are supposedly so tilted in their favor.OL FU wrote:I am amazed when I hear "can't make it through the right wing primaries"
2012 Nominee - Romney![]()
2008 Nominee - McCain![]()
Now admittedly they moved right during the primary, but they certainly are not the right wing of the party
Arrogant fuck like Joltin Joe - can never admit they're wrong.GannonFan wrote:Eh, his rant against East Coast people was hard to follow. He kept shifting his angst.Cluck U wrote:
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One of the few times gf wasn't on target.

The media isn't conducting investigations into this issue. They weren't the ones who just issued the report clearing Christie (although they did report in it, seems kind of odd that they would report on something that cleared Christie if they were conducting a "witch hunt" at the same time) and they aren't conducting the two investigations that are on going. The bridge issue isn't a media creation and the only thing the media cares about right now is a missing airplane.Cluck U wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:
This isn't a "liberal media witch hunt". Somebody in the Christie administration did something that they shouldn't have. Investigating to see who ordered what, who did what and who knew what is part of the process. No way this incident ends up helping him, best he can hope for is that the other reports clear him and this issue goes away.
Besides, the liberal media is the least of Christies worries, the hard part for him is getting through the GOP primaries. This was going to be a tough task for Christie even if everything went right, there are of lot of people that don't like the fact that he spoke well of Obama after Sandy.Of course it is a liberal media witch hunt. The media is choosing which "distractions" they broadcast...and the liberal media consistently runs with stories that denigrate conservative figures. That is their job.
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Obama goes after his opponents almost every day...he is a vindictive SOB, with Holder acting as a lap dog enforcer solely of Obama's will rather than of American law. Christie gets accused of being vindictive and slowing traffic...and the media (and the stupid Liberal whack job lemmings) make it a big issue, while Obama gets away with the daily murdering the Constitution and attacking the freedom of the press and those same Liberal whack jobs dismiss it as business as usual.![]()
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Who are the donks going to nominate?bluehenbillk wrote:Here's the problem the GOP has. If you don't think Christie can get the nomination, I don't see anyone else out there that can even significantly challenge to be the next President much less win.
Rand? Rubio? Ryan? Walker? Jindal? Jeb? Cruz? etc?

+1OL FU wrote:I am amazed when I hear "can't make it through the right wing primaries"
2012 Nominee - Romney![]()
2008 Nominee - McCain![]()
Now admittedly they moved right during the primary, but they certainly are not the right wing of the party

I think the question shouldn't be "can they make it through the right wing primaries" but "can they make it through the primaries without shifting far enough to the right that it hurts them in the general election?"OL FU wrote:I am amazed when I hear "can't make it through the right wing primaries"
2012 Nominee - Romney![]()
2008 Nominee - McCain![]()
Now admittedly they moved right during the primary, but they certainly are not the right wing of the party

Rand Paul isn't part of the "whacko right".GannonFan wrote:I agree with this sentiment and hence why Christy is still a very possible choice (heck, Jeb Bush as well). The whacko right of the Republican party is given too much credit for being able to skew the primaries - people said Romney didn't have a prayer (pun intended) of getting through and lo and behold he did. If the whacko right was as strong as people make it out to be then guys like Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee would be the eventual candidates, and yet they never make it through the primaries that are supposedly so tilted in their favor.OL FU wrote:I am amazed when I hear "can't make it through the right wing primaries"
2012 Nominee - Romney![]()
2008 Nominee - McCain![]()
Now admittedly they moved right during the primary, but they certainly are not the right wing of the party

Ive been saying this foreverGannonFan wrote:I agree with this sentiment and hence why Christy is still a very possible choice (heck, Jeb Bush as well). The whacko right of the Republican party is given too much credit for being able to skew the primaries - people said Romney didn't have a prayer (pun intended) of getting through and lo and behold he did. If the whacko right was as strong as people make it out to be then guys like Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee would be the eventual candidates, and yet they never make it through the primaries that are supposedly so tilted in their favor.OL FU wrote:I am amazed when I hear "can't make it through the right wing primaries"
2012 Nominee - Romney![]()
2008 Nominee - McCain![]()
Now admittedly they moved right during the primary, but they certainly are not the right wing of the party

The media clearly whipped up the story into a frenzy. There are investigations by the bazillion going on all over this country every single day. EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. But, the media isn't focused on the vast majority of those...you'll never hear about them. Instead, they decided to focus on Christie for supposedly retaliating against a Democratic mayor. Funny how much air play that got compared to Obama's repeated attacks on just about everyone on the planet for ever crossing his path.BlueHen86 wrote:The media isn't conducting investigations into this issue. They weren't the ones who just issued the report clearing Christie (although they did report in it, seems kind of odd that they would report on something that cleared Christie if they were conducting a "witch hunt" at the same time) and they aren't conducting the two investigations that are on going. The bridge issue isn't a media creation and the only thing the media cares about right now is a missing airplane.Cluck U wrote:
Of course it is a liberal media witch hunt. The media is choosing which "distractions" they broadcast...and the liberal media consistently runs with stories that denigrate conservative figures. That is their job.
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Obama goes after his opponents almost every day...he is a vindictive SOB, with Holder acting as a lap dog enforcer solely of Obama's will rather than of American law. Christie gets accused of being vindictive and slowing traffic...and the media (and the stupid Liberal whack job lemmings) make it a big issue, while Obama gets away with the daily murdering the Constitution and attacking the freedom of the press and those same Liberal whack jobs dismiss it as business as usual.![]()
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You can't make this stuff up.

And, when they ran as moderates they lost.OL FU wrote:I am amazed when I hear "can't make it through the right wing primaries"
2012 Nominee - Romney![]()
2008 Nominee - McCain![]()
Now admittedly they moved right during the primary, but they certainly are not the right wing of the party

The question might should be that but the one I was addressing was "could Christie win the nomination".UNI88 wrote:I think the question shouldn't be "can they make it through the right wing primaries" but "can they make it through the primaries without shifting far enough to the right that it hurts them in the general election?"OL FU wrote:I am amazed when I hear "can't make it through the right wing primaries"
2012 Nominee - Romney![]()
2008 Nominee - McCain![]()
Now admittedly they moved right during the primary, but they certainly are not the right wing of the party

Skjellyfetti wrote:And, when they ran as moderates they lost.OL FU wrote:I am amazed when I hear "can't make it through the right wing primaries"
2012 Nominee - Romney![]()
2008 Nominee - McCain![]()
Now admittedly they moved right during the primary, but they certainly are not the right wing of the party
So, yes. Christie will not make it through the Republican primaries in 2016. But, things look good for 2020.![]()

I agree. But he is certainly going to be an outlier on many issues. Will be interesting to see how far he is willing to go on issues like the fed and social safety net issues.BDKJMU wrote:Rand Paul isn't part of the "whacko right".GannonFan wrote:
I agree with this sentiment and hence why Christy is still a very possible choice (heck, Jeb Bush as well). The whacko right of the Republican party is given too much credit for being able to skew the primaries - people said Romney didn't have a prayer (pun intended) of getting through and lo and behold he did. If the whacko right was as strong as people make it out to be then guys like Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee would be the eventual candidates, and yet they never make it through the primaries that are supposedly so tilted in their favor.

I sure hope you're right.BDKJMU wrote:Who are the donks going to nominate?bluehenbillk wrote:Here's the problem the GOP has. If you don't think Christie can get the nomination, I don't see anyone else out there that can even significantly challenge to be the next President much less win.
Rand? Rubio? Ryan? Walker? Jindal? Jeb? Cruz? etc?
Hillary ain't running..

BDKJMU wrote:Who are the donks going to nominate?bluehenbillk wrote:Here's the problem the GOP has. If you don't think Christie can get the nomination, I don't see anyone else out there that can even significantly challenge to be the next President much less win.
Rand? Rubio? Ryan? Walker? Jindal? Jeb? Cruz? etc?
Hillary ain't running..

FIFY.OL FU wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
And, when they ran as moderates they lost.
So, yes. Christie will not make it through the Republican primaries in 2016. But, things look good for 2020.![]()
I'm not sure I understand, but I too don't believe Christie will get the nomination. Honestly, if he jumps in with both feet and can stand the heat, the next Bush will win it, IMHO. (not an endorsement, or opposition). He will have money falling out the car door. Question, can he convince people that he brings a level of competency to the office unlike his brother, who now looks like a fucking genius in hindsight, compared to the clown now residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.


Well I was going to say unlike his brother and the current president, but I decided there would be a lot of folks still tied up in hope and change with no concept of realityAZGrizFan wrote:FIFY.OL FU wrote:
I'm not sure I understand, but I too don't believe Christie will get the nomination. Honestly, if he jumps in with both feet and can stand the heat, the next Bush will win it, IMHO. (not an endorsement, or opposition). He will have money falling out the car door. Question, can he convince people that he brings a level of competency to the office unlike his brother, who now looks like a **** genius in hindsight, compared to the clown now residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.![]()

OL FU wrote:Well I was going to say unlike his brother and the current president, but I decided there would be a lot of folks still tied up in hope and change with no concept of realityAZGrizFan wrote:
FIFY.![]()


Nonsense, I'm wrong several times every day, my wife assures me of this.D1B wrote:Arrogant **** like Joltin Joe - can never admit they're wrong.GannonFan wrote:
Eh, his rant against East Coast people was hard to follow. He kept shifting his angst.

On top of being 69 by the 2016 elections (2nd oldest ever only to Reagan by 8 months), and if she lived that long 77 by 2024. And it would be an even bigger grind to run now than in 1980. Even bigger she's got health issues that are worse than publicly disclosed.CID1990 wrote:BDKJMU wrote:
Who are the donks going to nominate?
Hillary ain't running..
She'll run
she sees it as her due- she's owed the Presidency after all she's done for us

pure speculationBDKJMU wrote:On top of being 69 by the 2016 elections (2nd oldest ever only to Reagan by 8 months), and if she lived that long 77 by 2024. And it would be an even bigger grind to run now than in 1980. Even bigger she's got health issues that are worse than publicly disclosed.CID1990 wrote:
She'll run
she sees it as her due- she's owed the Presidency after all she's done for us
http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/28/rumor ... disclosed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

New campaign theme for 2016: "Do 69 with Hillary!"BDKJMU wrote:On top of being 69 by the 2016 elections (2nd oldest ever only to Reagan by 8 months), and if she lived that long 77 by 2024. And it would be an even bigger grind to run now than in 1980. Even bigger she's got health issues that are worse than publicly disclosed.CID1990 wrote:
She'll run
she sees it as her due- she's owed the Presidency after all she's done for us
http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/28/rumor ... disclosed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;