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Chizzang wrote:I don't understand how being an "arrogant prick" is relevant as an observation about the wrongness of something...The world is FULL of arrogant pricks and ass-holes who are making valid points.

I understand William Shakespeare was an arrogant prick
as well as Siegfried Glenzer

Donald Trump is an arrogant prick too... but are all arrogant pricks just like The Donald..?
I don't think JoltinJoe is an arrogant prick in real life. :-P
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Some people are just "know it alls (sp.)." Everything they say is gospel and anything contrary is wrong and the messenger is stupid.
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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I don't understand how being an "arrogant prick" is relevant as an observation about the wrongness of something...The world is FULL of arrogant pricks and ass-holes who are making valid points.

I understand William Shakespeare was an arrogant prick
as well as Siegfried Glenzer

Donald Trump is an arrogant prick too... but are all arrogant pricks just like The Donald..?
I don't think JoltinJoe is an arrogant prick in real life. :-P
I think you're prick. :finger: :finger: :finger:
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Sometimes Joe reminds me of Linus with his diligent, unwavering defense of all thing Catholic.

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Joe is acting like any other cult member confronted with a challenge. Arrogant, delusional, lashing out, lying, rationalizing...

You ever see Tom Cruise interviews where he defends that crock of shit? Joe is actually worse because he's been a victim since birth. He's deep in it. Catholicism is an indelible part of his nature.
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D1B wrote:Joe is acting like any other cult member confronted with a challenge. Arrogant, delusional, lashing out, lying, rationalizing...

You ever see Tom Cruise interviews where he defends that crock of shit? Joe is actually worse because he's been a victim since birth. He's deep. Catholicism is an indelible part of his nature, hence his reactions.
That sounds like someone we all know.....




Meanwhile, Tom Cruise is light years beyond anyone on this board in terms of religious fervor.
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Ibanez wrote:
D1B wrote:Joe is acting like any other cult member confronted with a challenge. Arrogant, delusional, lashing out, lying, rationalizing...

You ever see Tom Cruise interviews where he defends that crock of shit? Joe is actually worse because he's been a victim since birth. He's deep. Catholicism is an indelible part of his nature, hence his reactions.
That sounds like someone we all know.....




Meanwhile, Tom Cruise is light years beyond anyone on this board in terms of religious fervor.
It's human nature to try to blame others rather than address your own shortcomings.

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SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Sometimes Joe reminds me of Linus with his diligent, unwavering defense of all thing Catholic.

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D1B wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
That sounds like someone we all know.....




Meanwhile, Tom Cruise is light years beyond anyone on this board in terms of religious fervor.
It's human nature to try to blame others rather than address your own shortcomings.

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Ibanez wrote:
D1B wrote:
It's human nature to try to blame others rather than address your own shortcomings.

Got no issue with you. Peace.
I own my mistakes. I don't chalk it up to original sin, "the devil made me do it" or anything like that. Life is the sum of our experiences. The good and the bad.

Just fucking with you. I respect your opinions and knowledge. You are however giving Joe and the bible too much slack.

Allegory schmallegory. Like a lot of bible bullshit, the flood story was taken literally until science and logic and the freedom of skeptics to speak without being killed by the church, proved it to be bullshit. This happening rather recently. Apologists like Joe then retreated into the tired and disingenuous "it's just allegory and taken out of context" excuse.

Like him or not, Maher is dead on. It's one of many stories meant to scare the fuck out of, and control, people.

Think about it. :thumb:
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D1B wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
I own my mistakes. I don't chalk it up to original sin, "the devil made me do it" or anything like that. Life is the sum of our experiences. The good and the bad.

Just fucking with you. I respect your opinions and knowledge. You are however giving Joe and the bible too much slack.

Allegory schmallegory. Like a lot of bible bullshit, the flood story was taken literally until science and logic and the freedom of skeptics to speak without being killed by the church, proved it to be bullshit. This happening rather recently. Apologists like Joe then retreated into the tired and disingenuous "it's just allegory and taken out of context" excuse.

Like him or not, Maher is dead on. It's one of many stories meant to scare the fuck out of, and control, people.

Think about it. :thumb:
Did I give the bible some slack? Well, that's not appropriate. :oops:
Re: Bible stories - my parents taught us they were stories to demonstrate a point. Don't take them literally.

Re: the bolded text - I've been saying that for years. In fact, IMO, that's the whole point of religion. Religion was designed to explain the un-explainable and control people (which in turn controls society, the money, the resources, etc..) :thumb:
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Ibanez wrote:
D1B wrote:

Just fucking with you. I respect your opinions and knowledge. You are however giving Joe and the bible too much slack.

Allegory schmallegory. Like a lot of bible bullshit, the flood story was taken literally until science and logic and the freedom of skeptics to speak without being killed by the church, proved it to be bullshit. This happening rather recently. Apologists like Joe then retreated into the tired and disingenuous "it's just allegory and taken out of context" excuse.

Like him or not, Maher is dead on. It's one of many stories meant to scare the fuck out of, and control, people.

Think about it. :thumb:
Did I give the bible some slack? Well, that's not appropriate. :oops:
Re: Bible stories - my parents taught us they were stories to demonstrate a point. Don't take them literally.

Re: the bolded text - I've been saying that for years. In fact, IMO, that's the whole point of religion. Religion was designed to explain the un-explainable and control people (which in turn controls society, the money, the resources, etc..) :thumb:

Understand, but you can't take historical context out of the equation. Not too long ago, every one of those stories was believed as fact until scientific and other evidence deemed them bunk. Now we are to believe the resulting excuses, primarily from the catholic church are solid? Bullshit. Just like the Greek myths, it all was and still is bullshit. We don't need em anymore.

The fact that they still exist and people still have faith with them has nothing to do with their validity and everything to do with 1700 years of brutal oppression for non-belief and the practice of brainwashing children from birth.
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I just read that god denies any involvement in the missing airliner case.
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SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Sometimes Joe reminds me of Linus with his diligent, unwavering defense of all things Catholic.

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Chizzang wrote:
SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Sometimes Joe reminds me of Linus with his diligent, unwavering defense of all things Catholic.

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I love your posts...
For a bunch a guys who collectively have spent about 5 minutes studying theology, you guys sure are a bunch of experts on the subject. :lol:

Why don't you guys go back to those things about which you are experts, like talking out of your asses on subjects you know nothing about. Wait a minute. That's what you're doing here.

Hey, Cleets, why don't you tell us again about how the Rothschilds and other European bankers owners own the Federal Reserve?

Internet experts. :lol: :coffee:
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D1B wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Did I give the bible some slack? Well, that's not appropriate. :oops:
Re: Bible stories - my parents taught us they were stories to demonstrate a point. Don't take them literally.

Re: the bolded text - I've been saying that for years. In fact, IMO, that's the whole point of religion. Religion was designed to explain the un-explainable and control people (which in turn controls society, the money, the resources, etc..) :thumb:

Understand, but you can't take historical context out of the equation. Not too long ago, every one of those stories was believed as fact until scientific and other evidence deemed them bunk. Now we are to believe the resulting excuses, primarily from the catholic church are solid? Bullshit. Just like the Greek myths, it all was and still is bullshit. We don't need em anymore.

The fact that they still exist and people still have faith with them has nothing to do with their validity and everything to do with 1700 years of brutal oppression for non-belief and the practice of brainwashing children from birth.
Again, the acceptance of biblical stories as allegory goes back as far as Augustine in the Catholic Church.

I don't know why even post things. This all you have to say:

:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :dunce:
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JoltinJoe wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I love your posts...
For a bunch a guys who collectively have spent about 5 minutes studying theology, you guys sure are a bunch of experts on the subject. :lol:

Why don't you guys go back to those things about which you are experts, like talking out of your asses on subjects you know nothing about. Wait a minute. That's what you're doing here.

Hey, Cleets, why don't you tell us again about how the Rothschilds and other European bankers owners own the Federal Reserve?

Internet experts. :lol: :coffee:
Joe, I don't claim to be any kind of religious expert, I was merely commenting on the lengths you will go to paint the church in a positive light.

For example, it would be perfectly reasonable (in my opinion) for someone to say, "The Catholic Church has certainly had its share of problems over time, but it is doing what it can to rectify those issues."

Your message, however, is more along the lines of, "The Catholic Church has had problems, just like any other organization and has been inequitably punished and vilified for these transgressions. Despite the unfairness of it all, near heroic responses have been made by the Church to quiet the dessenters."

At least that is how I hear it.

Your efforts to not say anything truely negative about the Church reminds me of this quote from Linus:

"Linus: [to Sally as she walks away with everyone else] Hey, aren't you going to wait and greet the Great Pumpkin? Huh? It won't be long now. If the Great Pumpkin comes, I'll still put in a good word for you!

[realizes what he just said]

Linus: Good grief! I said "if"! I meant, "when" he comes!

[calmly]

Linus: I'm doomed. One little slip like that could cause the Great Pumpkin to pass you by.

[calling out]

Linus: Oh, Great Pumpkin, where are you?"

That is all. What do I know, though.

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JoltinJoe wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I love your posts...
For a bunch a guys who collectively have spent about 5 minutes studying theology, you guys sure are a bunch of experts on the subject. :lol:

Why don't you guys go back to those things about which you are experts, like talking out of your asses on subjects you know nothing about. Wait a minute. That's what you're doing here.

Hey, Cleets, why don't you tell us again about how the Rothschilds and other European bankers owners own the Federal Reserve?

Internet experts. :lol: :coffee:
Don't discount the knowledge and experience of people you've never met. That's not very Christian like. Or mature.
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JoltinJoe wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I love your posts...
For a bunch a guys who collectively have spent about 5 minutes studying theology, you guys sure are a bunch of experts on the subject. :lol:

Why don't you guys go back to those things about which you are experts, like talking out of your asses on subjects you know nothing about. Wait a minute. That's what you're doing here.

Hey, Cleets, why don't you tell us again about how the Rothschilds and other European bankers owners own the Federal Reserve?

Internet experts. :lol: :coffee:
You seem a bit peevish today Joe.

What is it that makes you more qualified to speak about fantasy and myth, anyway?
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JoltinJoe wrote:
D1B wrote:

Understand, but you can't take historical context out of the equation. Not too long ago, every one of those stories was believed as fact until scientific and other evidence deemed them bunk. Now we are to believe the resulting excuses, primarily from the catholic church are solid? Bullshit. Just like the Greek myths, it all was and still is bullshit. We don't need em anymore.

The fact that they still exist and people still have faith with them has nothing to do with their validity and everything to do with 1700 years of brutal oppression for non-belief and the practice of brainwashing children from birth.
Again, the acceptance of biblical stories as allegory goes back as far as Augustine in the Catholic Church.

I don't know why even post things. This all you have to say:

:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :dunce:

Yeah, and it continues to this day. Pick and choose, pick and choose, pick and choose..... edit, retract, adjust, edit, retract, embellish, edit, hide, embellish, destroy, edit, hide, adjust, embellish, retract, hide, edit, pick and choose, avoid, erase, edit, lie, embellish, edit, misinterpret, avoid, edit, retract, embellish...been doing it for 1900 years and more.

There are billions of pages of excuses known as the catalog of Catholic Dogma, and yes Joe, you're an expert on this shit. But a shit expert is still an expert on shit.
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houndawg wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote: For a bunch a guys who collectively have spent about 5 minutes studying theology, you guys sure are a bunch of experts on the subject. :lol:

Why don't you guys go back to those things about which you are experts, like talking out of your asses on subjects you know nothing about. Wait a minute. That's what you're doing here.

Hey, Cleets, why don't you tell us again about how the Rothschilds and other European bankers owners own the Federal Reserve?

Internet experts. :lol: :coffee:
You seem a bit peevish today Joe.

What is it that makes you more qualified to speak about fantasy and myth, anyway?

Joe went to Fordumb. Bullshit has been pounded into his brain since birth.

Being a shit expert is almost as good as being a tic tac toe pro.
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SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote: For a bunch a guys who collectively have spent about 5 minutes studying theology, you guys sure are a bunch of experts on the subject. :lol:

Why don't you guys go back to those things about which you are experts, like talking out of your asses on subjects you know nothing about. Wait a minute. That's what you're doing here.

Hey, Cleets, why don't you tell us again about how the Rothschilds and other European bankers owners own the Federal Reserve?

Internet experts. :lol: :coffee:
Joe, I don't claim to be any kind of religious expert, I was merely commenting on the lengths you will go to paint the church in a positive light.

For example, it would be perfectly reasonable (in my opinion) for someone to say, "The Catholic Church has certainly had its share of problems over time, but it is doing what it can to rectify those issues."

Your message, however, is more along the lines of, "The Catholic Church has had problems, just like any other organization and has been inequitably punished and vilified for these transgressions. Despite the unfairness of it all, near heroic responses have been made by the Church to quiet the dessenters."

At least that is how I hear it.

Your efforts to not say anything truely negative about the Church reminds me of this quote from Linus:

"Linus: [to Sally as she walks away with everyone else] Hey, aren't you going to wait and greet the Great Pumpkin? Huh? It won't be long now. If the Great Pumpkin comes, I'll still put in a good word for you!

[realizes what he just said]

Linus: Good grief! I said "if"! I meant, "when" he comes!

[calmly]

Linus: I'm doomed. One little slip like that could cause the Great Pumpkin to pass you by.

[calling out]

Linus: Oh, Great Pumpkin, where are you?"

That is all. What do I know, though.

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JoltinJoe wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I love your posts...
For a bunch a guys who collectively have spent about 5 minutes studying theology, you guys sure are a bunch of experts on the subject. :lol:

Why don't you guys go back to those things about which you are experts, like talking out of your asses on subjects you know nothing about. Wait a minute. That's what you're doing here.

Hey, Cleets, why don't you tell us again about how the Rothschilds and other European bankers owners own the Federal Reserve?

Internet experts. :lol: :coffee:

Now Joe... lets not get too snarky
You sound defeated when you do that - keep your chin up

And I don't know much about the Rothchilds or whatever
but beyond the 12 regional Banks here in the U.S. very few people actually know the reach and influence of European banks inside our system after the ECB June 1st 1998 meetings... and confusing things further is the 1993 Maastricht Treaty which I think was designed to create central bank transparency - but it doesn't seem to have worked very well either.

But if you know - do tell
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JoltinJoe wrote:Quoting Bill Maher on theology.

Bill Maher. :dunce:
Yes. Only believers should have an opinion. Everyone else is a dunce…Hitchens, Dawkins, Nye, Tyson, the Lama…morons.
No, but in Bill Maher's case, YES. :dunce: :dunce:
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Yes. Only believers should have an opinion. Everyone else is a dunce…Hitchens, Dawkins, Nye, Tyson, the Lama…morons.
No, but in Bill Maher's case, YES. :dunce: :dunce:
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