Kissinger - How the Ukraine crisis ends

[grizzaholic]

Had to look up who this person since y'all made him out to be a big deal.

He has an interesting and good opinion, but like everyone else not close to the situation (aka. almost everyone), he probably doesn't have all the details to make a fully-informed analysis.

Umm...did you not take American history in high school?

Umm...why would he take American History?

[UNI88]

Umm...did you not take American history in high school?

In general, I don't think the Secretary of State gets too much written about them in history books. I'm sure he's mentioned in a paragraph or two, but it's probably in passing. I mean, I doubt most people can name Secretary of States that retired more than a decade before that person was born. Hell, I can't recall any Secretary of State before Colin Powell without looking it up.

For the most part you're right. The biggest exception is probably William Seward because of Seward's Folly.

I would rank Kissinger up there with Bismarck as two of the greatest diplomats/statesman of the 19th/20th centuries.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Obama will stay in Afghanistan until they become the 59th state.

That dumb cu*t probably couldn't find that country on a globe without his puppeteers help. Obama is incompetent and he is not a leader.

[houndawg]

Obama will stay in Afghanistan until they become the 59th state.

That dumb cu*t probably couldn't find that country on a globe without his puppeteers help. Obama is incompetent and he is not a leader.

This thread is about the war criminal Henry Kissinger. Plenty of time to discuss your obsession with Obama during his third term.

[CID1990]

Obama will stay in Afghanistan until they become the 59th state.

That dumb cu*t probably couldn't find that country on a globe without his puppeteers help. Obama is incompetent and he is not a leader.

This thread is about the war criminal Henry Kissinger. Plenty of time to discuss your obsession with Obama during his third term.

BRAWK!!

Right on time

[ASUMountaineer]

You do understand that Obama WANTS to stay in Affy, don't you? We're being kicked out.

And I think you still don't understand that Obama WANTED to stay in Iraq...but we were also kicked out (following Bush's original timetable, mind you).

The more you know...

At this point, I don't really GAF who wants to stay there and who doesn't as long as I can keep bashing Bush for 100% of it. Like you, I just want us to quit expending American blood and treasure in far-flung shitholes ASAP.

FIFY

[Ibanez]

Umm...did you not take American history in high school?

In general, I don't think the Secretary of State gets too much written about them in history books. I'm sure he's mentioned in a paragraph or two, but it's probably in passing. I mean, I doubt most people can name Secretary of States that retired more than a decade before that person was born. Hell, I can't recall any Secretary of State before Colin Powell without looking it up.

While that's true, especially for Vice Presidents, Kissinger is a special case.


P.S. the SoS before Powell was equally important. Madeline Albright.

[Ibanez]

Obama will stay in Afghanistan until they become the 59th state.

That dumb cu*t probably couldn't find that country on a globe without his puppeteers help. Obama is incompetent and he is not a leader.

What are states 51-58, genius?

[CID1990]

Obama will stay in Afghanistan until they become the 59th state.

That dumb cu*t probably couldn't find that country on a globe without his puppeteers help. Obama is incompetent and he is not a leader.

What are states 51-58, genius?

I think he is referring to Obama's 57 states, plus one previously unknown one, plus one more.

[Ibanez]

What are states 51-58, genius?

I think he is referring to Obama's 57 states, plus one previously unknown one, plus one more.

Either way, Alpha is still a moron. Got it. Thanks Cid.

[CID1990]

I think he is referring to Obama's 57 states, plus one previously unknown one, plus one more.

Either way, Alpha is still a moron. Got it. Thanks Cid.

I think Canada is the previously unmentioned 58th one

[Ibanez]

Either way, Alpha is still a moron. Got it. Thanks Cid.

I think Canada is the previously unmentioned 58th one