Walmart on Welfare

[Chizzang]

Americans Arguing about Wal-Mart:
It's like arguing about what you see when you look in the mirror


We are Wal-Mart

[BDKJMU]

The Walton family is the personification of corporate capitalism run amok. Would love to see every WAL-MART bankrupted and left for dead and these people answer for their corporate greed.

I refuse to shop there. Will NOT set foot inside one.

I can afford to spend more elsewhere too, but one of the reasons I shop there is because liberals and the unions hate it.

[AZGrizFan]

I refuse to shop there. Will NOT set foot inside one.

I can afford to spend more elsewhere too, but one of the reasons I shop there is because liberals and the unions hate it.

Just can't do it. And I'm not sorry...

[CID1990]

I buy ammo there

[JohnStOnge]

The Senate’s lone independent pointed out during the panel on income inequality that more Americans were currently living in poverty than at any point in the nation’s history as the top 1 percent siphoned off 95 percent of all income generated between 2009 and 2012.

First of all, the top 1% didn't "siphon off" anything. When you calculate the income generated you're calculating the income the top 1% generated. Also I seriously doubt that they generated 95% of it.

Otherwise: The country is not "subsidizing" Wal Mart because Wal Mart decides on what it will pay given people to do given jobs and those people choose to take those jobs. There is no decree handed down from heaven saying that the country has to provide welfare.

And suppose there was no Wal Mart? Would that reduce the cost of the foolish decision by the people of the US to elect people who will to attempt to ensure the well being of every individual?

Of course not.

Wal Mart offers to purchase a service and says what it will pay for that service. Some people decide to take the offer. It's not Wal Mart's fault if the culture decides to have "welfare" programs.

[JohnStOnge]

Really. Think about it. You have a store and you say you'll pay $1 per hour for someone to come run a cash register at checkout. Somebody takes it.

Are you "siphoning off" anything? Really now. You're the one selling the goods you're selling. And if the person you offered $1 per hour doesn't want to check people out for you they don't have to do it.

That person chose to do the cash register in exchange for you giving them $1 per hour.

This stuff is ridiculous.

[kalm]

I refuse to shop there. Will NOT set foot inside one.

I can afford to spend more elsewhere too, but one of the reasons I shop there is because liberals and the unions hate it.

Oh yeah? Well Adolph Coors was one of the founders of the John Birch Society so drink hippie owned micro's. I don't listen to Three Doors Down or Pat Boone and boycott all Bruce Willis movies. I even avoid Josh Brolin movies...he looks too much like Rick Perry...

[kalm]

The Senate’s lone independent pointed out during the panel on income inequality that more Americans were currently living in poverty than at any point in the nation’s history as the top 1 percent siphoned off 95 percent of all income generated between 2009 and 2012.

First of all, the top 1% didn't "siphon off" anything. When you calculate the income generated you're calculating the income the top 1% generated. Also I seriously doubt that they generated 95% of it.

Otherwise: The country is not "subsidizing" Wal Mart because Wal Mart decides on what it will pay given people to do given jobs and those people choose to take those jobs. There is no decree handed down from heaven saying that the country has to provide welfare.

And suppose there was no Wal Mart? Would that reduce the cost of the foolish decision by the people of the US to elect people who will to attempt to ensure the well being of every individual?

Of course not.

Wal Mart offers to purchase a service and says what it will pay for that service. Some people decide to take the offer. It's not Wal Mart's fault if the culture decides to have "welfare" programs.

Walmart should be happy they recieve this form of subsidy. It pacifies the lazy and working poor (including their own) with cheap trinkets. Without it, they might have to pay more or deal with strikes and unions and such.

[Chizzang]

Wal-Mart is successful because it provides plastic sh!t at a super cheap price...
America can't enough Chinese made plastic sh!t

If you want things made out of wood
or of superior design and craftsmanship you literally cannot shop at Wal-Mart

But we don't want that (in droves) we don't want it
We'll line up NOT to get that

What WE want is Chinese made plastic sh!t - and nobody has more of that than Wal-Mart
So they win

Debate that if you can...

[YoUDeeMan]

Utter nonsense.

This subject is typical of people who believe that people are incapable of making good decisions and that the government must dictate everything in order for us to have a society.

The Weather Channel had a 4 year old kid on today saying that he missed the Weather Channel since big, bad, Direct TV is no longer carrying TWC (because the Greedy Weather Channel wanted more money). Are you shitting me?

The clowns that are saying WalMart is responsible for government welfare would be the same assclowns that would be saying Direct TV needs to carry the Weather Channel so TWC people can make more money.

Want to work at WalMart? Apply for the job if it meets your idea of a desirable job and hope your credentials and interview skills get you the job. Don't like the pay? Don't apply.

Want cheap stuff? Shop there. Don't want cheap stuff? Don't shop there.

It really is simple.

[Chizzang]

Utter nonsense.

This subject is typical of people who believe that people are incapable of making good decisions and that the government must dictate everything in order for us to have a society.

The Weather Channel had a 4 year old kid on today saying that he missed the Weather Channel since big, bad, Direct TV is no longer carrying TWC (because the Greedy Weather Channel wanted more money). Are you shitting me?

The clowns that are saying WalMart is responsible for government welfare would be the same assclowns that would be saying Direct TV needs to carry the Weather Channel so TWC people can make more money.

Want to work at WalMart? Apply for the job if it meets your idea of a desirable job and hope your credentials and interview skills get you the job. Don't like the pay? Don't apply.

Want cheap stuff? Shop there. Don't want cheap stuff? Don't shop there.

It really is simple.

^
The fate of Wal-Mart is entirely up to the American public
who seem to eat-it-up by the shovel full

We made / We own it / we are it

[CAA Flagship]

I can afford to spend more elsewhere too, but one of the reasons I shop there is because liberals and the unions hate it.

Oh yeah? Well Adolph Coors was one of the founders of the John Birch Society so drink hippie owned micro's. I don't listen to Three Doors Down or Pat Boone and boycott all Bruce Willis movies. I even avoid Josh Brolin movies...he looks too much like Rick Perry...

You are an angry old fuck.

[DSUrocks07]

the foolish decision by the people of the US to elect people who will to attempt to ensure the well being of themselves?

I mean, let's be real here.

[kalm]

Utter nonsense.

This subject is typical of people who believe that people are incapable of making good decisions and that the government must dictate everything in order for us to have a society.

The Weather Channel had a 4 year old kid on today saying that he missed the Weather Channel since big, bad, Direct TV is no longer carrying TWC (because the Greedy Weather Channel wanted more money). Are you shitting me?

The clowns that are saying WalMart is responsible for government welfare would be the same assclowns that would be saying Direct TV needs to carry the Weather Channel so TWC people can make more money.

Want to work at WalMart? Apply for the job if it meets your idea of a desirable job and hope your credentials and interview skills get you the job. Don't like the pay? Don't apply.

Want cheap stuff? Shop there. Don't want cheap stuff? Don't shop there.

It really is simple.

Believe me, I can argue these points as well as anybody on the board...I employ minimum wage workers ...and every time the State of Washington raises the number, it hurts a little. (although they are all high school and college kids).

That being said a few things to consider:

Walmart is the worlds largest private employer who counts many above the age of 24 in its workforce trying to scrape out an existence, many of which have children (part of the problem is these people shouldn't be having children but that's another can of worms)

They qualify for welfare. They probably aren't qualified or smart enough to work elsewhere, but at least they're working.

The Walton heirs have a net worth equal to if not greater than the bottom 40% of America.

Payroll is their number one expense, and they benefit from welfare programs supporting their own employees.

Take away the minimum wage or welfare, and their employee's standard of living drops, not to mention they can no longer afford the flat screen tv's and iPhones that they couldn't really afford to begin with. Retail sales drop.

I don't like the minimum wage either but I like Walmart's parasitic behavior even less. Walmart's success is not a good sign of where we're at.

[OL FU]

Right or wrong, for head of households (which means with kids) making minimum wage, an increase in the miminum wage will mean little more than an almost dollar for dollar cut in the government subsidies they receive (and that isn't knocking people that recieve subsidies). So the increase in the minimum wage for families doesn't help those families much but it does shift some of the costs from the government to business and ultimately to the consumer. Not arguing the good or bad, but if you look at the wages of those families that is exactly what will happen (everything else being equal meaning no reduction of employment or hours).

now to the other point, Bernie Sanders is a fucking idiot.

[OL FU]

Reich added that Walmart, the nation’s largest private employer, paid its workers an average of $8.80 an hour. By comparison, he said, the nation’s largest employer in 1955 was General Motors, which paid workers an average of $37 an hour in today’s money.

Once again not arguing the rights and wrongs but here is another hypocritical idiot. Didn't he work Clinton who signed like a butt load of free trade deals including NAFTA?

[Grizalltheway]

Oh yeah? Well Adolph Coors was one of the founders of the John Birch Society so drink hippie owned micro's. I don't listen to Three Doors Down or Pat Boone and boycott all Bruce Willis movies. I even avoid Josh Brolin movies...he looks too much like Rick Perry...

You are an angry old fuck.

You quoted the wrong poster, FYI.

[CAA Flagship]

You are an angry old fuck.

You quoted the wrong poster, FYI.

No. I got it right. Are you saying you are not angry, and just an old fuck?

[Ivytalk]

Utter nonsense.

This subject is typical of people who believe that people are incapable of making good decisions and that the government must dictate everything in order for us to have a society.

The Weather Channel had a 4 year old kid on today saying that he missed the Weather Channel since big, bad, Direct TV is no longer carrying TWC (because the Greedy Weather Channel wanted more money). Are you shitting me?

The clowns that are saying WalMart is responsible for government welfare would be the same assclowns that would be saying Direct TV needs to carry the Weather Channel so TWC people can make more money.

Want to work at WalMart? Apply for the job if it meets your idea of a desirable job and hope your credentials and interview skills get you the job. Don't like the pay? Don't apply.

Want cheap stuff? Shop there. Don't want cheap stuff? Don't shop there.

It really is simple.

^
The fate of Wal-Mart is entirely up to the American public
who seem to eat-it-up by the shovel full

We made / We own it / we are it

Fewer people are now able to afford Chinese plastic sh*t, so Walmart's financial results are dropping. The slow economy has hit the "Walmart shoppers" the hardest. The Commie Chinese have discovered that higher wages are a good thing, so Chinese plastic sh*t won't be that cheap any more, and even fewer Americans will be able to shop there. "We are Walmart"? Not so much.

IT suggests shopping at Target, but paying cash! Happier people, no identity theft.

[CID1990]

The ammo I buy there is made of brass.

Except for the shotgun shells...

[kalm]

Reich added that Walmart, the nation’s largest private employer, paid its workers an average of $8.80 an hour. By comparison, he said, the nation’s largest employer in 1955 was General Motors, which paid workers an average of $37 an hour in today’s money.

Once again not arguing the rights and wrongs but here is another hypocritical idiot. Didn't he work Clinton who signed like a butt load of free trade deals including NAFTA?

True, Clinton policies hurt the middle class in the long run but I'm not sure if Reich was on board with Nafta. In any event, he's allowed to learn from mistakes and change his mind...Clinton has to a certain extent regarding Graham-Leach-Bliley and the CFTA.

Flash forward and you now have Obama talking about income equality while pushing for a fast track of the TPP.

[Grizalltheway]

You quoted the wrong poster, FYI.

No. I got it right. Are you saying you are not angry, and just an old fuck?

25 is old now? And I'm not angry per se, just sexually frustrated.

[AZGrizFan]

Walmart is the worlds largest private employer who counts many above the age of 24 in its workforce trying to scrape out an existence, many of which have children (part of the problem is these people shouldn't be having children but that's another can of worms)

They qualify for welfare. They probably aren't qualified or smart enough to work elsewhere, but at least they're working.

Take away the minimum wage or welfare, and their employee's standard of living drops, not to mention they can no longer afford the flat screen tv's and iPhones that they couldn't really afford to begin with. Retail sales drop.

I don't like the minimum wage either but I like Walmart's parasitic behavior even less. Walmart's success is not a good sign of where we're at.

It's a travesty, a sham and a mockery. It's a traveshamockery. House of cards. Smoke and mirrors.

Time for a reset, fellas.

[CID1990]

Walmart is the worlds largest private employer who counts many above the age of 24 in its workforce trying to scrape out an existence, many of which have children (part of the problem is these people shouldn't be having children but that's another can of worms)

They qualify for welfare. They probably aren't qualified or smart enough to work elsewhere, but at least they're working.

Take away the minimum wage or welfare, and their employee's standard of living drops, not to mention they can no longer afford the flat screen tv's and iPhones that they couldn't really afford to begin with. Retail sales drop.

I don't like the minimum wage either but I like Walmart's parasitic behavior even less. Walmart's success is not a good sign of where we're at.

It's a travesty, a sham and a mockery. It's a traveshamockery. House of cards. Smoke and mirrors.

Time for a reset, fellas.

Our "poor" have a very high standard of living, that's for sure.

I issue lots of immigrant visas to people who are literally dying to come to America to be "poor".

[OL FU]

Once again not arguing the rights and wrongs but here is another hypocritical idiot. Didn't he work Clinton who signed like a butt load of free trade deals including NAFTA?

True, Clinton policies hurt the middle class in the long run but I'm not sure if Reich was on board with Nafta. In any event, he's allowed to learn from mistakes and change his mind...Clinton has to a certain extent regarding Graham-Leach-Bliley and the CFTA.

Flash forward and you now have Obama talking about income equality while pushing for a fast track of the TPP.

That may be true, but like Sanders, Reich is talking like an idiot. The difference is Reich should know better. The point is this is one of those issues that, in my humble opinion, is for purposes of demogagory (did I spell that right). The minimum wage issue will really accomplish very little of what its proponents claim. And it will cause very little of the harm, its detractors claim. Politics as usual.