US economy grows by 4.1% in 3rd quarter

[Ibanez]

So why waste taxpayer time and money on stupid, fucking symbolism? Petty, polarized politics has ruined Washington and will ruin this country.

I don't know the statistics (if I cared I would look it up), but I would guess that the shutdown, if anything, probably saved money.
Politicians who turned politicking into a career, and people realizing that voting for the guy who will give them the most free shit is what has ruined Washington and the country. That happened long before today's current crop of anal warts and entered office.

It "cost" us $24B aka $24B in missed revenue.

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[AZGrizFan]

I don't know the statistics (if I cared I would look it up), but I would guess that the shutdown, if anything, probably saved money.
Politicians who turned politicking into a career, and people realizing that voting for the guy who will give them the most free shit is what has ruined Washington and the country. That happened long before today's current crop of anal warts and entered office.

Then why do people vote Republicam?

Same reason they vote democrat. People are idiots.

[Ibanez]

Then why do people vote Republicam?

Same reason they vote democrat. People are idiots.

Is that why you voted for McCain and Palin?

[grizzaholic]

Thank you, Dear Leader!


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I can post pics too

[Baldy]

I don't know the statistics (if I cared I would look it up), but I would guess that the shutdown, if anything, probably saved money.
Politicians who turned politicking into a career, and people realizing that voting for the guy who will give them the most free shit is what has ruined Washington and the country. That happened long before today's current crop of anal warts and entered office.

It "cost" us $24B aka $24B in missed revenue.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/17/he ... e-economy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's just in lost revenue, it didn't say anything about what was saved in operating costs.

[Grizalltheway]

Same reason they vote democrat. People are idiots.

Is that why you voted for McCain and Palin?

No, because it took him 30 years of voting Republican and being an idiot before he finally saw the light and started calling himself a libertarian.

[AZGrizFan]

Is that why you voted for McCain and Palin?

No, because it took him 30 years of voting Republican and being an idiot before he finally saw the light and started calling himself a libertarian.

And if we're lucky, it won't take YOU 30 years of being an idiot before you start voting libertarian too. But I won't hold my breath.

[AZGrizFan]

Same reason they vote democrat. People are idiots.

Is that why you voted for McCain and Palin?

I'd vote for a corpse and a transvestite before I'd vote for Obama and his cronies. The McCain/Palin vote is looking better every DAY, my friend. I don't have to scrape any bumper stickers off MY car as my candidate isn't the one flushing 250 years of history down the toilet.

[Grizalltheway]

No, because it took him 30 years of voting Republican and being an idiot before he finally saw the light and started calling himself a libertarian.

And if we're lucky, it won't take YOU 30 years of being an idiot before you start voting libertarian too. But I won't hold my breath.

I joined Cleets in voting Green Party in the last election.

[Ibanez]

It "cost" us $24B aka $24B in missed revenue.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/17/he ... e-economy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's just in lost revenue, it didn't say anything about what was saved in operating costs.

Yeah, that's why I said "missed revenue".

[Ibanez]

Is that why you voted for McCain and Palin?

I'd vote for a corpse and a transvestite before I'd vote for Obama and his cronies. The McCain/Palin vote is looking better every DAY, my friend. I don't have to scrape any bumper stickers off MY car as my candidate isn't the one flushing 250 years of history down the toilet.

You are clearly delusional and/or pathetic if you think McCain would be any better. Him and Palin would be the biggest joke in DC. McCain, like Obama, would continue the bullshit policies of Dubya.

[Ibanez]

And if we're lucky, it won't take YOU 30 years of being an idiot before you start voting libertarian too. But I won't hold my breath.

I joined Cleets in voting Green Party in the last election.

I voted Libertarian.

[AZGrizFan]

I'd vote for a corpse and a transvestite before I'd vote for Obama and his cronies. The McCain/Palin vote is looking better every DAY, my friend. I don't have to scrape any bumper stickers off MY car as my candidate isn't the one flushing 250 years of history down the toilet.

You are clearly delusional and/or pathetic if you think McCain would be any better. Him and Palin would be the biggest joke in DC. McCain, like Obama, would continue the bullshit policies of Dubya.

NEWSFLASH: OBAMA CONTINUED THE BULLSHIT POLICIES OF DUBYA!!!

[Ibanez]

You are clearly delusional and/or pathetic if you think McCain would be any better. Him and Palin would be the biggest joke in DC. McCain, like Obama, would continue the bullshit policies of Dubya.

NEWSFLASH: OBAMA CONTINUED THE BULLSHIT POLICIES OF DUBYA!!!

You and Baldy are slipping today. You guys are trying to being clever pointing out things that I already said. I already said that about Obama.

Derp de derp.

[AZGrizFan]

NEWSFLASH: OBAMA CONTINUED THE BULLSHIT POLICIES OF DUBYA!!!

You and Baldy are slipping today. You guys are trying to being clever pointing out things that I already said. I already said that about Obama.

Derp de derp.

So, let me see if I have this straight: Under McCain, we would have continued the bullshit policies of Dubya. Under Obama, we HAVE continued the bullshit policies of Dubya AND we have the added benefit of bankrupting the country with Obamacare.

Thanks, McCain wins by a landslide.

[Ibanez]

You and Baldy are slipping today. You guys are trying to being clever pointing out things that I already said. I already said that about Obama.

Derp de derp.

So, let me see if I have this straight: Under McCain, we would have continued the bullshit policies of Dubya. Under Obama, we HAVE continued the bullshit policies of Dubya AND we have the added benefit of bankrupting the country with Obamacare.

Thanks, McCain wins by a landslide.

Quit being dramatic. Obamacare has not bankrupted the country. The 2 Wars have done more damage then this piece of legislation have. I think we all see the trend of Republicans gaining more seats in the house. Obama has already changed the ACA 14 times WITHOUT Congressional approval. Obamacare will continue to change if not get repealed within the next 4 -6 years.

[Baldy]

That's just in lost revenue, it didn't say anything about what was saved in operating costs.

Yeah, that's why I said "missed revenue".

So why waste taxpayer time and money on stupid, fucking symbolism?

Ummmm, no. Get your shit straight , Mark.

It "cost" us $24B aka $24B in missed revenue.

You do know that wasting (or losing) money and "missed revenue" are two entirely different animals, correct?
Losing money takes revenues AND costs into consideration. As I said, the article you posted erroneously only points out to "lost revenue" and didn't mention a word about operating costs. If the operating costs were greater than the lost revenue, the shutdown would have been a net positive to the MONEY side of the equation.

I know it's Monday and two days before Christmas, but c'mon man.

[Ibanez]

Yeah, that's why I said "missed revenue".

So why waste taxpayer time and money on stupid, fucking symbolism?

Ummmm, no. Get your shit straight , Mark.

It "cost" us $24B aka $24B in missed revenue.

You do know that wasting (or losing) money and "missed revenue" are two entirely different animals, correct?
Losing money takes revenues AND costs into consideration. As I said, the article you posted erroneously only points out to "lost revenue" and didn't mention a word about operating costs. If the operating costs were greater than the lost revenue, the shutdown would have been a net positive to the MONEY side of the equation.

I know it's Monday and two days before Christmas, but c'mon man.

You said Lost revenue. I said it was missed revenue which to me is the same thing and lost. It's $$ we've missed out on. If that isn't the correct economic term, then excuse me.

[Baldy]

Ummmm, no. Get your shit straight , Mark.




You do know that wasting (or losing) money and "missed revenue" are two entirely different animals, correct?
Losing money takes revenues AND costs into consideration. As I said, the article you posted erroneously only points out to "lost revenue" and didn't mention a word about operating costs. If the operating costs were greater than the lost revenue, the shutdown would have been a net positive to the MONEY side of the equation.

I know it's Monday and two days before Christmas, but c'mon man.

You said Lost revenue. I said it was missed revenue which to me is the same thing and lost. It's $$ we've missed out on. If that isn't the correct economic term, then excuse me.

No, you said "wasted money" and then linked to an article about "lost revenue"...two entirely different things. In the process you tried to go D1betamale and call me out. I'm just setting the record straight.

[ASUMountaineer]

You and Baldy are slipping today. You guys are trying to being clever pointing out things that I already said. I already said that about Obama.

Derp de derp.

So, let me see if I have this straight: Under McCain, we would have continued the bullshit policies of Dubya. Under Obama, we HAVE continued the bullshit policies of Dubya AND we have the added benefit of bankrupting the country with Obamacare.

Thanks, McCain wins by a landslide.

I wonder if McCain would have continued the unfunded Rx Drug Benefit. Thanks Republicans!

Also, he gave the world Sarah Palin. This isn't a defense of Obushma, but c'mon man...McCain?

[Ibanez]

You said Lost revenue. I said it was missed revenue which to me is the same thing and lost. It's $$ we've missed out on. If that isn't the correct economic term, then excuse me.

No, you said "wasted money" and then linked to an article about "lost revenue"...two entirely different things. In the process you tried to go D1betamale and call me out. I'm just setting the record straight.

Please show me where I said, "wasted money." I said missed revenue. I said Congress wasted taxpayer time and money with regards to the 40+ vain attempts to defund/repeal Obamacare. That was before you brought the cost of the shut down.
You actually said "wasting money." I just said we missed out on revenue and then linked an article that pointed out some revenue we didn't collect during the shutdown.

Baldy, do you have any idea what we're even talking about anymore? You're talking around the subject and trying to confuse a person so that they give up trying to discuss something with you.

[Baldy]

Please show me where I said, "wasted money." I said missed revenue.

So why waste taxpayer time and money on stupid, fucking symbolism? Petty, polarized politics has ruined Washington and will ruin this country.

Whatever dude.

[AZGrizFan]

So, let me see if I have this straight: Under McCain, we would have continued the bullshit policies of Dubya. Under Obama, we HAVE continued the bullshit policies of Dubya AND we have the added benefit of bankrupting the country with Obamacare.

Thanks, McCain wins by a landslide.

I wonder if McCain would have continued the unfunded Rx Drug Benefit. Thanks Republicans!

Also, he gave the world Sarah Palin. This isn't a defense of Obushma, but c'mon man...McCain?

Palin is no more stupid than Biden.

[kalm]

I wonder if McCain would have continued the unfunded Rx Drug Benefit. Thanks Republicans!

Also, he gave the world Sarah Palin. This isn't a defense of Obushma, but c'mon man...McCain?

Palin is no more stupid than Biden.

Oh good lord...

[Ibanez]

Please show me where I said, "wasted money." I said missed revenue.

So why waste taxpayer time and money on stupid, fucking symbolism? Petty, polarized politics has ruined Washington and will ruin this country.

Whatever dude.

What, we have here, is a failure to communicate. I know you went to Pigs Ass University but come on dude. In the sequence of events, I said time and money were wasted on symbolism i.e. the previously mentioned 40+ votes to repeal/defund Obamacare that had zero chances of passing. Then you asked/said you didn't know how much money the shutdown cost us. I replied that we missed out on $24B in revenue. You then said I was wrong that we lost that revenue. Losing out on revenue, in my mind, is revenue we missed out on.