CS Poll Week 10

[AZGrizFan]

Do you consider EIU one of those, being from a historically weak conference? I have a hard time ranking Ivy's very high for the same reason.

Yes...although they have a couple of good/decent wins to their credit this year....

[kalm]

Do you consider EIU one of those, being from a historically weak conference? I have a hard time ranking Ivy's very high for the same reason.

EIU played well through a very solid OOC. They deserve to be top 5

[dbackjon]

Do you consider EIU one of those, being from a historically weak conference? I have a hard time ranking Ivy's very high for the same reason.

The difference with EIU (at least this year) is that they had a tough OOC schedule:

Beat San Diego State 40-19 - San Diego State is now 3-1 in the Mountain West
Beat Southern Illinois on the road
Beat Illinois State badly
Lost to a top 20 FBS Northern Illinois by 4
The closest any OVC team has been to them is to lose by 18

[MrTitleist]

I didn't mean to single out EIU specifically, as their resume is probably the best of any FCS team in the top 25, but an OVC team in general..

[AZGrizFan]

Do you consider EIU one of those, being from a historically weak conference? I have a hard time ranking Ivy's very high for the same reason.

The difference with EIU (at least this year) is that they had a tough OOC schedule:

Beat San Diego State 40-19 - San Diego State is now 3-1 in the Mountain West
Beat Southern Illinois on the road
Beat Illinois State badly
Lost to a top 20 FBS Northern Illinois by 4
The closest any OVC team has been to them is to lose by 18

Agreed....but Charleston Southern is a paper tiger, as is Coastal.

[dbackjon]

The difference with EIU (at least this year) is that they had a tough OOC schedule:

Beat San Diego State 40-19 - San Diego State is now 3-1 in the Mountain West
Beat Southern Illinois on the road
Beat Illinois State badly
Lost to a top 20 FBS Northern Illinois by 4
The closest any OVC team has been to them is to lose by 18

Agreed....but Charleston Southern is a paper tiger, as is Coastal.

Part of Chuck's ranking is based on the fact they beat two teams that were strong last year, and expected to be good this year (The Citadel and App State) - and it turns out neither are really that good.

[uofmman1122]

Agreed....but Charleston Southern is a paper tiger, as is Coastal.

Part of Chuck's ranking is based on the fact they beat two teams that were strong last year, and expected to be good this year (The Citadel and App State) - and it turns out neither are really that good.

This. I don't see CCU or CSU as top 10 teams.

[Ibanez]

Part of Chuck's ranking is based on the fact they beat two teams that were strong last year, and expected to be good this year (The Citadel and App State) - and it turns out neither are really that good.

This. I don't see CCU or CSU as top 10 teams.

CSU isn't but that doesn't discount their success. Face it, your team sucks this season. That's the excuse right? Your team is having an off season?


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[JohnStOnge]

Not bad but I'd have Southeastern Louisiana rated ahead of Sam Houston State at this point.

Not that I don't hope both Central Arkansas and Sam Houston State beat Southeastern Louisiana in the Lions' next two games. But to me Southeastern Louisiana looked a whole lot better against McNeese than either of those two teams did.

Don't get me wrong. I think McNeese laid an egg against Southeastern Louisiana and played very poorly. But Southeastern Louisiana still looked like the best team McNeese has played this year.

Hope that a few weeks from now that turns out to be a false impression. But right now that's the impression.

[ASUG8]

STILL no ASU.....you guys are amateurs....we're practically SunBelch for God's sake.

[Vidav]

STILL no ASU.....you guys are amateurs....we're practically SunBelch for God's sake.

I had them at #2, based on past performance.

[uofmman1122]

This. I don't see CCU or CSU as top 10 teams.

CSU isn't but that doesn't discount their success. Face it, your team sucks this season. That's the excuse right? Your team is having an off season?


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U MAD?

Looking forward to Coastal getting bounced in the first game they play against a decent team.

[Grizzlies1982]

What I have a problem with is putting undefeated or one-loss teams from historically weak conferences (I'm looking at you, Charleston Southern and Bethune Cookman) so high in the polls...these teams will historically be one-and-done in the tournament, taking a spot from a more deserving team that lost 3-4 games playing a schedule that is significantly more difficult.

That is a slippery slope. With their conferences being almost complete playoff failures it is always hard to believe a B-C, Charleston So, Costal Carolina, Fordham, or even E. Illinois is for real.

Yet anyone who has gone undefeated, or has just a single loss, at this point in the season deserves some respect. I'm not saying they must be considered top ten, or top five. Though the above teams did what they needed to do (win baby win) and consequently have earned a spot. As a result they deserve a chance to prove they belong in the playoff mix. Perhaps this year, or another, one of these sleepers is going to win out and shock us all.

[Ibanez]

CSU isn't but that doesn't discount their success. Face it, your team sucks this season. That's the excuse right? Your team is having an off season?


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U MAD?

Looking forward to Coastal getting bounced in the first game they play against a decent team.

Nope. Life is too short. You mad that ASUs last season in the FCS is embarrassing? Are the seeds of doubt germinating? Can ASU even hang with the Sunbelt?


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[AZGrizFan]

What I have a problem with is putting undefeated or one-loss teams from historically weak conferences (I'm looking at you, Charleston Southern and Bethune Cookman) so high in the polls...these teams will historically be one-and-done in the tournament, taking a spot from a more deserving team that lost 3-4 games playing a schedule that is significantly more difficult.

That is a slippery slope. With their conferences being almost complete playoff failures it is always hard to believe a B-C, Charleston So, Costal Carolina, Fordham, or even E. Illinois is for real.

Yet anyone who has gone undefeated, or has just a single loss, at this point in the season deserves some respect. I'm not saying they must be considered top ten, or top five. Though the above teams did what they needed to do (win baby win) and consequently have earned a spot. As a result they deserve a chance to prove they belong in the playoff mix. Perhaps this year, or another, one of these sleepers is going to win out and shock us all.

That's what spots 18-25 are for. Undefeated teams in historically weak conferences. IVY, SWAC, NEC, PFL, Big South. Hell, even the Patriot League has produced a playoff victory on about the same cycle as Haley's Comet...

[Ibanez]

That is a slippery slope. With their conferences being almost complete playoff failures it is always hard to believe a B-C, Charleston So, Costal Carolina, Fordham, or even E. Illinois is for real.

Yet anyone who has gone undefeated, or has just a single loss, at this point in the season deserves some respect. I'm not saying they must be considered top ten, or top five. Though the above teams did what they needed to do (win baby win) and consequently have earned a spot. As a result they deserve a chance to prove they belong in the playoff mix. Perhaps this year, or another, one of these sleepers is going to win out and shock us all.

That's what spots 18-25 are for. Undefeated teams in historically weak conferences. IVY, SWAC, NEC, PFL, Big South. Hell, even the Patriot League has produced a playoff victory on about the same cycle as Haley's Comet...

Coastal has shown the ability the reach the playoffs in multiple years. I think we're seeing the beginning of something great and eventually, you all that look down on some Big South teams like Coastal, Chas. So. and Liberty will soon have to admit that they have the ability to compete. This is only going to improve. The "loss" of VMI to the SoCon does more good to us than it will to the SoCon. I'm not a complete homer, I know our success this year in the polls is due to the ineligibility and failures of others. Since the begining, Coastal has been an exception in the Big South football scene.

Meanwhile, I just read this article. I like our chances but some people get too excited

CCU also appears to be on the path to a national title. Ranked No. 3/5 after into Saturday’s win against Charlotte, the Chants (9-0) are one of three undefeated teams in the FCS.

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Here's the truth, and what i've been saying all along

In actuality, the Charleston Southern game is probably truest test for the Chanticleers, who’ve not faced a ranked team since defeating then No. 25 ranked Eastern Kentucky on Sept. 14. Gardner-Webb had already fallen out of the rankings when CCU beat the Runnin’ Bulldogs 42-7 on Oct. 12.

[AZGrizFan]

Coastal has shown the ability the reach the playoffs in multiple years. I think we're seeing the beginning of something great and eventually, you all that look down on some Big South teams like Coastal, Chas. So. and Liberty will soon have to admit that they have the ability to compete. This is only going to improve. The "loss" of VMI to the SoCon does more good to us than it will to the SoCon. I'm not a complete homer, I know our success this year in the polls is due to the ineligibility and failures of others. Since the begining, Coastal has been an exception in the Big South football scene.

Your playoff record is 1-3. That one win is against another of the historically weak autobid conference teams (Bethune Cookman).

And I lol'ed at the "national title" comments in that article.

[Ibanez]

Coastal has shown the ability the reach the playoffs in multiple years. I think we're seeing the beginning of something great and eventually, you all that look down on some Big South teams like Coastal, Chas. So. and Liberty will soon have to admit that they have the ability to compete. This is only going to improve. The "loss" of VMI to the SoCon does more good to us than it will to the SoCon. I'm not a complete homer, I know our success this year in the polls is due to the ineligibility and failures of others. Since the begining, Coastal has been an exception in the Big South football scene.

Your playoff record is 1-3. That one win is against another of the historically weak autobid conference teams (Bethune Cookman).

And I lol'ed at the "national title" comments in that article.

That NT comment was ridiculous. We've been in the playoffs 3 of our 10 seasons. Historically weak but good enough to get into the playoffs for a chance. You can't discredit that.

2006 Lost to AppState(who went on to win) 45-28
2010 lost to W. Illinois 17-10
2012 Beat B-C 24-14// Lost to ODU 65-35

Overall Records

2003 6 -5
2004 10-1
2005 9-2
2006 9-3
2007 5-6
2008 6-6
2009 5-6
2010 6-6
2011 7-4
2012 8-5
2013 9-0

[Ibanez]

Box Score from the last FBS team we played, Toledo Rockets. (I expect you to laugh and discount them since they aren't some big name in college football)



CCAR TOL
1st Downs 20 18
3rd down efficiency 6-18 (33%) 5-13(38%)
4th down efficiency 0-3 0-1
Total Yards 432 402
Passing 356 290
Comp-Att 30-47(63%) 27-36 (75%)
Yards per pass 7.6 8.1
Rushing 76 112
Rushing Attempts 34 31
Yards per rush 2.2 3.6
Turnovers 0 1
Fumbles lost 0 1
Interceptions thrown 0 0
Possession 31:24:00 28:36:00

We scored a touchdown in every quarter, lost 28-38

[kalm]

Box Score from the last FBS team we played, Toledo Rockets. (I expect you to laugh and discount them since they aren't some big name in college football)



CCAR TOL
1st Downs 20 18
3rd down efficiency 6-18 (33%) 5-13(38%)
4th down efficiency 0-3 0-1
Total Yards 432 402
Passing 356 290
Comp-Att 30-47(63%) 27-36 (75%)
Yards per pass 7.6 8.1
Rushing 76 112
Rushing Attempts 34 31
Yards per rush 2.2 3.6
Turnovers 0 1
Fumbles lost 0 1
Interceptions thrown 0 0
Possession 31:24:00 28:36:00

We scored a touchdown in every quarter, lost 28-38

That's about how we played them this year. Toledo is solid and will probably be going to their 4th bowl in a row.

You guys are definitely on the upswing, but considering your SOS should really be regarded as a typical 2-4 loss team from a power conference when it comes to ranking and seeding.

[Grizalltheway]

U MAD?

Looking forward to Coastal getting bounced in the first game they play against a decent team.

Nope. Life is too short. You mad that ASUs last season in the FCS is embarrassing? Are the seeds of doubt germinating? Can ASU even hang with the Sunbelt?


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[89Hen]

Coastal has shown the ability the reach the playoffs in multiple years. I think we're seeing the beginning of something great and eventually, you all that look down on some Big South teams like Coastal, Chas. So. and Liberty will soon have to admit that they have the ability to compete. This is only going to improve.

That's what the playoffs are for. It's nice that we don't have to speculate how a team from an historically lower conference will do against top competition. That said, it's up to CCU to make it happen. If they lose first round again, you will have to admit that it's not there yet and may not be for a long time.

[Ibanez]

Coastal has shown the ability the reach the playoffs in multiple years. I think we're seeing the beginning of something great and eventually, you all that look down on some Big South teams like Coastal, Chas. So. and Liberty will soon have to admit that they have the ability to compete. This is only going to improve.

That's what the playoffs are for. It's nice that we don't have to speculate how a team from an historically lower conference will do against top competition. That said, it's up to CCU to make it happen. If they lose first round again, you will have to admit that it's not there yet and may not be for a long time.

Of course I'd admit the obvious, I'm a reasonable person. Like I said, i'm not one of those fans that a complete homer and think CCU is the pinnacle of FCS football.

[dal4018]

Sorry about the delay...

1. North Dakota State Bison (300)
2. Eastern Illinois Panthers (280)
3. Eastern Washington Eagles (271)
4. Maine Black Bears (265)
5. Fordham Rams (254)
6. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers (234)
7. Montana State Bobcats (225)
8. Sam Houston State Bearkats (221)
9. Youngstown State Penguins (205)
10. Southeastern Louisiana Lions (180)
11. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks (172)
12. Towson Tigers (163)
13. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats (158)
14. McNeese Cowboys (148)
15. Montana Grizzlies (144)
16. Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens (117)
17. Chattanooga Mocs (95)
18. Charleston Southern Buccaneers (88)
19. Samford Bulldogs (79)
20. William and Mary Tribe (69)
21. Wofford Terriers (62)
22. Southern Illinois Salukis (46)
23. James Madison Dukes (33)
24. Eastern Kentucky Colonels (21)
25. Jackson State Tigers (16)

Next 10 receiving votes:
26. Princeton Tigers (12), 27. Lehigh Mountain Hawks (10), 28. South Dakota State Jackrabbits (8), 29. Jacksonville State Gamecocks (8), 30. Tennessee State Tigers (4), 31. Central Arkansas Bears (3), 32. Southern Utah Thunderbirds (2), 33. Villanova Wildcats (1).

(only 8 teams beyond the top 25 receiving points)

Jackson St how is it that they are ranked ????

[MrTitleist]

I didn't realize we were so passionate about our pol(e)ls.