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CID1990 wrote:
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Numbers and desperation will defeat all.
Yes but lack of internet, Honey Boo Boo and wonderbread will thin those ranks greatly before the hordes make it to my little bastion of employables.

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D1B wrote:
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Yes but lack of internet, Honey Boo Boo and wonderbread will thin those ranks greatly before the hordes make it to my little bastion of employables.

They'll Trojan Horse your compound by wearing sheets over their heads and carrying burning crosses.
Nope, Klean is on my "admit to the compound" list, and he'll know the difference.
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bluehenbillk wrote:I'm too lazy to look it up, plus I have a job & don't have the time; however, if you want to get a true gage on the labor force participation you need to look it up by age. The Department of Labor has those figures somewhere.
The number not participating is going to continue to spike as the baby boomers continue to retire. Once the median of the boomers hits retirement, the participation rate will start to go back up again.

This is not rocket science folks.
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93henfan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:I'm too lazy to look it up, plus I have a job & don't have the time; however, if you want to get a true gage on the labor force participation you need to look it up by age. The Department of Labor has those figures somewhere.
The number not participating is going to continue to spike as the baby boomers continue to retire. Once the median of the boomers hits retirement, the participation rate will start to go back up again.

This is not rocket science folks.
Thanks, Obama.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
93henfan wrote:
The number not participating is going to continue to spike as the baby boomers continue to retire. Once the median of the boomers hits retirement, the participation rate will start to go back up again.

This is not rocket science folks.
Thanks, Obama.
What?
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93henfan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Thanks, Obama.
What?
Sorry, it's actually Bush's fault. Or maybe Carter's.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
93henfan wrote:
What?
Sorry, it's actually Bush's fault. Or maybe Carter's.
It's the "Greatest Generations" fault for having so many damn kids!!!

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89Hen wrote:
DSUrocks07 wrote:Traverse City
At least they have an airport. :thumb: Buddy of mind goes up there every summer. Supposed to be really nice, but can't imagine the winters.
The winters up there can be brutal but since its right on the water its not as bad as a few miles inland near Kalkaska and Mancelona. Those places get hit hard every year. :nod:

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Cluck U wrote:Traverse City...looks like a nice place!

http://www.ci.traverse-city.mi.us/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

About the size of Newark...without the college population. Lots of water up there (frozen a good part of the year :mrgreen: ) and it looks as though you'll be getting some snow on that side of the lake, so get yourself a good snow blower and some fishing equipment (normal stuff during the summer, chain saws, a portable shed, and parkas during the winter season).

My in-laws have a place due North, across the lake, near Engadine. If you love open country, you're going to have a blast. Be prepared to see a LOT of stars...it is a different world away from the megalopolises of the East and West coasts. :thumb:

When are you moving?
Oh its beautiful up there summer and winter. I've been up there the last three winters for my daughter's bday (she lives in MI) was able to go up there in the summer season for the first time and it was amazing. I told my gf (who lives up there) that it had everything I loved about Miami without the requirement of learning Spanish fluently :lol:

Aiming for early February, just before spring hits and the tourist season begins. It's a process but I'm looking forward to the opportunity.

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93henfan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:I'm too lazy to look it up, plus I have a job & don't have the time; however, if you want to get a true gage on the labor force participation you need to look it up by age. The Department of Labor has those figures somewhere.
The number not participating is going to continue to spike as the baby boomers continue to retire. Once the median of the boomers hits retirement, the participation rate will start to go back up again.

This is not rocket science folks.
Boomers. What a worthless demographic. Almost as bad as this trainwreck that currently slinking out of college after 8 years of gender studies.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
93henfan wrote:
What?
Sorry, it's actually Bush's fault. Or maybe Carter's.
I blame Roosevelt. :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
The number not participating is going to continue to spike as the baby boomers continue to retire. Once the median of the boomers hits retirement, the participation rate will start to go back up again.

This is not rocket science folks.
Boomers. What a worthless demographic. Almost as bad as this trainwreck that currently slinking out of college after 8 years of gender studies.
Boomers? Like the clowns in Congress?
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dbackjon wrote:
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This is what came up when I googled Traverse City. :shock: Count me out. ;)

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How can you tell that is not Minnesota, Canada or Canada's appendix (Dakota)
Could be I guess, but that's not what I googled.
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CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
The number not participating is going to continue to spike as the baby boomers continue to retire. Once the median of the boomers hits retirement, the participation rate will start to go back up again.

This is not rocket science folks.
Boomers. What a worthless demographic. Almost as bad as this trainwreck that currently slinking out of college after 8 years of gender studies.
The original entitlement generation.
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DSUrocks07 wrote:
Cluck U wrote:Traverse City...looks like a nice place!

http://www.ci.traverse-city.mi.us/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

About the size of Newark...without the college population. Lots of water up there (frozen a good part of the year :mrgreen: ) and it looks as though you'll be getting some snow on that side of the lake, so get yourself a good snow blower and some fishing equipment (normal stuff during the summer, chain saws, a portable shed, and parkas during the winter season).

My in-laws have a place due North, across the lake, near Engadine. If you love open country, you're going to have a blast. Be prepared to see a LOT of stars...it is a different world away from the megalopolises of the East and West coasts. :thumb:

When are you moving?
Oh its beautiful up there summer and winter. I've been up there the last three winters for my daughter's bday (she lives in MI) was able to go up there in the summer season for the first time and it was amazing. I told my gf (who lives up there) that it had everything I loved about Miami without the requirement of learning Spanish fluently :lol:

Aiming for early February, just before spring hits and the tourist season begins. It's a process but I'm looking forward to the opportunity.

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Glad to hear you will be able to spend time with your family. Lots of outdoor adventures that a family can do in that area. :thumb:
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93henfan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:I'm too lazy to look it up, plus I have a job & don't have the time; however, if you want to get a true gage on the labor force participation you need to look it up by age. The Department of Labor has those figures somewhere.
The number not participating is going to continue to spike as the baby boomers continue to retire. Once the median of the boomers hits retirement, the participation rate will start to go back up again.

This is not rocket science folks.
That's assuming that their kids, the Baby Boom Echo, who are the 15-30 year olds now, starting getting employed more than they have. The unemployment rate of the youth is particularly troubling as they aren't working and in some cases, seem okay with that.
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GannonFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:
The number not participating is going to continue to spike as the baby boomers continue to retire. Once the median of the boomers hits retirement, the participation rate will start to go back up again.

This is not rocket science folks.
That's assuming that their kids, the Baby Boom Echo, who are the 15-30 year olds now, starting getting employed more than they have. The unemployment rate of the youth is particularly troubling as they aren't working and in some cases, seem okay with that.
Well I think part of that has do with the fact that a lot of us, myself included, graduated into the worst job market since the Great Depression. I've been fairly lucky to find the work I have, but there are still far more college grads nowadays than there are college graduate jobs.
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CID1990 wrote:
D1B wrote:

Don't think so, ****. It's the responsibiliy of the employable to create jobs, with livable wages, for the working class. If you don't, they will kill you and your employable kids. :nod:

The employable and accumulators of capital have not been holding their end of the deal since the 50's and they all are going to pay dearly.

Helluva world you created for your children - war, environmental destruction, famine, disease.... Chances are your kids, definately your grandkids, will suffer in a world gone mad. All your fault too.
Again, the hippies were right. :coffee:
Yeah, but the unemployable don't understand the basic engineering concepts of building a defensible bunker, the geometric concepts of fields of fire, or the logistical concepts of crop rotation and planning.
Bullshit. Hippies know about not just rotation and planning but how to farm without using deadly chemicals or greedily ruining soil conditions:

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Yesterday just reinforced my beliefs that are unemployment rate is the opposite of what many of the sheep think - it's exaggerated. If anything we have an unemployable rate problem.

I phone screen a guy last week, call him & e-mail him Monday for a Wednesday interview which he replies to both confirming. The morning of the interview he goes on LinkedIn and follows our company. Then he no-calls, no-shows the interview.

Good luck.

There just are too many people out there that aren't qualified or motivated to work most of the available jobs in this country today.
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bluehenbillk wrote:and falling, why don't they come out with an unemployable rate? I've been interviewing candidates for 2 months trying to find a new salesperson & you should see some of these resumes....
what do you pay, is it commission, do you offer relocation stipends?

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You could be right bhb. Saw something in Time where 50% of employers said they had trouble finding qualified college grads. WTF is going on?
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Pwns wrote:You could be right bhb. Saw something in Time where 50% of employers said they had trouble finding qualified college grads. WTF is going on?
If that's the case, no more whining by the companies, they need to provide their own training. Otherwise, as I have witnessed in the giant organizations I've worked for, they'll put a gun to the head of state governments to pay for their training, thus threatening the state that they will be leaving.

Worked for a 5 billion/yr food company which did just that in a southwestern state. Built a new plant, then, despite ungodly earnings, had the balls to ask the state to pay for training its new employees. This, after the state had spent $1 million for several job fairs to staff the place. They threatened to pull up stakes and leave if they did not get it, too. It's corporate welfare...for the wealthy!

You want good employees to learn your company's skills, train them yourself!

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Is there anyone here in the Safety and/or Environmental compliance field, preferably in manufacturing, that is willing to relocate?
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Our chamber of commerce (businesses) was on this years ago and led the multimillion dollar effort to add a 4 year engineering program to our local small university to feed the need for engineers.

On the flip side, tax payers have and are funding several programs at the technical college to produce high technical skill workers.

Win win.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Pwns wrote:You could be right bhb. Saw something in Time where 50% of employers said they had trouble finding qualified college grads. WTF is going on?
If that's the case, no more whining by the companies, they need to provide their own training. Otherwise, as I have witnessed in the giant organizations I've worked for, they'll put a gun to the head of state governments to pay for their training, thus threatening the state that they will be leaving.

Worked for a 5 billion/yr food company which did just that in a southwestern state. Built a new plant, then, despite ungodly earnings, had the balls to ask the state to pay for training its new employees. This, after the state had spent $1 million for several job fairs to staff the place. They threatened to pull up stakes and leave if they did not get it, too. It's corporate welfare...for the wealthy!

You want good employees to learn your company's skills, train them yourself!

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Don't agree and your state will look like Detroit. It's a tough position to be in.
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