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How do you slam a head on the ground from the mma position with that haircut?
Punch in the head when his head is several inches off the ground as he's trying to get up, head slams into concrete. Or hand on face slamming head into concrete. Duh.

And there is no such thing as the "mma position" :dunce: There is the mount position, the side mount, the guard....
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How do you slam a head on the ground from the mma position with that haircut?
Punch in the head when his head is several inches off the ground as he's trying to get up, head slams into concrete. Or had on face slamming head into concrete. Duh.

And there is no such thing as the "mma position" :dunce: There is the mount position, the side mount, the guard....
Not only that but isn't hair pulling off limits in a guy fight? :?
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Eric Holder spent tax dollars to help organize, support 'Justice for Trayvon' protests... :ohno:
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[quote="BDKJMU"]Eric Holder spent tax dollars to help organize, support 'Justice for Trayvon' protests... :ohno:
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I looked that up. The 2 EMTs were shot right near MUSC- one was killed and one survived. Damn-my younger sister was living in Charleston at the time and working at MUSC (she graduated from the College of Charleston). She may have mentioned it back then- I don't remember. I'll ask her.

I see the scumbag was soon caught and avoided the death penalty for what was described as cold blooded murders of the EMT and officer by pleading guilty but mentally ill. What a crock.
The guy walked right past Dennis and then doubled back and put a bullet right in his brain. Dennis was doing security at one of the cofc dorms and was listening to the racket on his walkie.

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Then the solicitor basically lets the guy plead out- never even considered the death penalty or even bringing him to trial- that's 2

Two examples in one incident where what would have been predicted by the Sharptons and the Jacksons as happening to a black guy- didn't happen.

This guy was emboldened by the racemongers in Charleston like Dot Scott who basically said it was open season on blacks. So this guy and his buddies take it to heart and go looking for a cop to kill. In fact, over the two week period before the LaPage shooting they tried to trap a Mt Pleasant cop who was driving across the James Island connector on his way home from work. They sped past him, then got in front of him and slammed on the brakes trying to get him to pull them over. He didn't because he wasn't in Mt Pkeasant, and lucky for him.


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I'm sure the people making this about race can produce tons of anecdotes about blacks being convicted of killing whites when there was evidence it was self defense. :coffee:
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Pwns wrote:I'm sure the people making this about race can produce tons of anecdotes about blacks being convicted of killing whites when there was evidence it was self defense. :coffee:
But in this case, this was not self Defense.
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Pwns wrote:I'm sure the people making this about race can produce tons of anecdotes about blacks being convicted of killing whites when there was evidence it was self defense. :coffee:
But in this case, this was not self Defense.
From what's been presented in court, it clearly was.
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mrklean wrote:
But in this case, this was not self Defense.
From what's been presented in court, it clearly was.

When does a 16 year old start a fight with a 30 plus grown az man?? How can you claim self defense when you started the fight?
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mrklean wrote:
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From what's been presented in court, it clearly was.

When does a 16 year old start a fight with a 30 plus grown az man?? How can you claim self defense when you started the fight?
The testimony has shown that Martin jumped Zimmerman, threw the first sucker punch, and pretty much owned Zimmerman for 40 seconds before Zimmerman, fearing for his life, drew his sidearm and saved his own life.

Where do you plan to riot?
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Jury in Zimmerman case may consider other charges

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Judge Debra Nelson says she will rule on the proposal later. The judge, however, agreed with the prosecution that jurors could consider manslaughter as a lesser charge.

West said he wanted the six jurors to only consider the second-degree murder charge or not guilty.
"The state has charged him with second degree murder. They should be required to prove it," West said. "If they had wanted to charge him with manslaughter ... they could do that."

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This judge has certainly favored the prosecution throughout the trial. I wouldn't be surprised to see any potential manslaughter conviction get overturned on appeal. She has been on a mission since before the case started. She is the only reason there is any doubt left in Zimmerman's case.
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93henfan wrote:
mrklean wrote:

When does a 16 year old start a fight with a 30 plus grown az man?? How can you claim self defense when you started the fight?
The testimony has shown that Martin jumped Zimmerman, threw the first sucker punch, and pretty much owned Zimmerman for 40 seconds before Zimmerman, fearing for his life, drew his sidearm and saved his own life.

Where do you plan to riot?

I dont plan to riot. For what??. I knew when I saw the 6 women in the jury, that Zimmerman was going to go free. I used to be a Federal Probation Officer, and I've seen crap like this in my three years. This is why I left my Fed. Job to start my own business. But this is a wake up can for people to get out a vote. But at the end of the Day and young i\was killed because a wannabe PUSSY wanted to play Superman.

BTW, I bet you any amount of Money, that Zimmerman won't be able to live in FL AGAIN! EVER!!!
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mrklean wrote:
93henfan wrote:
From what's been presented in court, it clearly was.

When does a 16 year old start a fight with a 30 plus grown az man?? How can you claim self defense when you started the fight?
First of all, Trayvon was 17 and Zimmerman was 27. How can you claim self defense? Did you see GZ pictures? Did you hear the testimony that TMs only injuries were bloodied knuckles and a single gunshot?
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andy7171 wrote:
mrklean wrote:

When does a 16 year old start a fight with a 30 plus grown az man?? How can you claim self defense when you started the fight?
First of all, Trayvon was 17 and Zimmerman was 27. How can you claim self defense? Did you see GZ pictures? Did you hear the testimony that TMs only injuries were bloodied knuckles and a single gunshot?

One one saw the fight, so in my eyes, nobody really knows the truth. And Zimmerman is too much of a Pussy to go on the stand.
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mrklean wrote:
93henfan wrote:
From what's been presented in court, it clearly was.

When does a 16 year old start a fight with a 30 plus grown az man?? How can you claim self defense when you started the fight?
There are countless cases of young kids assaulting older people.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/201 ... urne-train" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The teenagers can be heard abusing Mr Stapleford in video footage shot from this point.
"I hope you enjoy your shower...free shower," one of the girls can be heard saying.

"I'm not sitting next to a ... Don't touch me. Next time you touch me I'll kill you. Kill everything you f---ing love,"
The victim told the Herald Sun he could not believe what had happened.
"The bigger girl got up and threw some of the contents of her energy drink at me. I was stunned, surprised. I just thought, 'What is this world coming to?'," he said.
http://globalnews.ca/news/704574/man-ru ... -attacked/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Two teenagers are facing charges in connection to the assault of an 86-year-old man Tuesday morning.
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http://www.news10.net/news/article/2435 ... lle-man-79" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A 79-year-old Roseville man was taken to the hospital Tuesday after being assaulted by five youths in front of his home on the 900 block of Douglas Boulevard, say police.
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mrklean wrote:
93henfan wrote:
The testimony has shown that Martin jumped Zimmerman, threw the first sucker punch, and pretty much owned Zimmerman for 40 seconds before Zimmerman, fearing for his life, drew his sidearm and saved his own life.

Where do you plan to riot?

I dont plan to riot. For what??. I knew when I saw the 6 women in the jury, that Zimmerman was going to go free. I used to be a Federal Probation Officer, and I've seen crap like this in my three years. This is why I left my Fed. Job to start my own business. But this is a wake up can for people to get out a vote. But at the end of the Day and young i\was killed because a wannabe PUSSY wanted to play Superman.

BTW, I bet you any amount of Money, that Zimmerman won't be able to live in FL AGAIN! EVER!!!
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mrklean wrote:
andy7171 wrote: First of all, Trayvon was 17 and Zimmerman was 27. How can you claim self defense? Did you see GZ pictures? Did you hear the testimony that TMs only injuries were bloodied knuckles and a single gunshot?

One one saw the fight, so in my eyes, nobody really knows the truth. And Zimmerman is too much of a Pussy to go on the stand.
So how can you send a man to prison for 30 years with no evidence (if that were true).
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mrklean wrote:
andy7171 wrote: First of all, Trayvon was 17 and Zimmerman was 27. How can you claim self defense? Did you see GZ pictures? Did you hear the testimony that TMs only injuries were bloodied knuckles and a single gunshot?

One one saw the fight, so in my eyes, nobody really knows the truth. And Zimmerman is too much of a Pussy to go on the stand.
The best offense is a great defense. Zimmerman on the witness stand opens him up even more. Clearly, this judge doesn't want to be the judge to let Zimmerman go free, not if she has anything to say about it.
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93henfan wrote:
mrklean wrote:

One one saw the fight, so in my eyes, nobody really knows the truth. And Zimmerman is too much of a Pussy to go on the stand.
So how can you send a man to prison for 30 years with no evidence (if that were true).
Easy, he's racist.
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Ibanez wrote:
mrklean wrote:

One one saw the fight, so in my eyes, nobody really knows the truth. And Zimmerman is too much of a Pussy to go on the stand.
The best offense is a great defense. Zimmerman on the witness stand opens him up even more. Clearly, this judge doesn't want to be the judge to let Zimmerman go free, not if she has anything to say about it.

This judge has really set a guilty until proven innocent mentality in this particular courtroom.
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mrklean wrote:
93henfan wrote:
The testimony has shown that Martin jumped Zimmerman, threw the first sucker punch, and pretty much owned Zimmerman for 40 seconds before Zimmerman, fearing for his life, drew his sidearm and saved his own life.

Where do you plan to riot?

I dont plan to riot. For what??. I knew when I saw the 6 women in the jury, that Zimmerman was going to go free. I used to be a Federal Probation Officer, and I've seen crap like this in my three years. This is why I left my Fed. Job to start my own business. But this is a wake up can for people to get out a vote. But at the end of the Day and young i\was killed because a wannabe PUSSY wanted to play Superman.

BTW, I bet you any amount of Money, that Zimmerman won't be able to live in FL AGAIN! EVER!!!
Sadly, you're right about that and that is a huge problem.

This whole thing has been about emotion- not the rule of law. The prosecution has in no way proven beyond a reasonable doubt anything except that Zimmerman's story withstands judicial scrutiny. They are left with only an appeal to the judge to include anything Zimmerman could possibly be charged with as lessers... throwing shit against a wall hoping something will stick.

Sadly, the thugs in our area, and there are a shitload of them, will riot, destroy private property, loot, endanger law abiding peace loving citizens, and generally put our community into a bad light nationally when our local law enforcement and DA, Norm Wolfinger, have done nothing except follow the rule of law.

Our nation is a consititutional republic, not a democracy, and is a nation of laws, not of mob rule. Sadly, many in the case- starting with the President and working its way down through the Governor to the local City manager- have conveniently overlooked that and made this about emotion, not about the rule of law.

You, of all people with your career in law enforcement, should know and subscribe to that.
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Ibanez wrote:
mrklean wrote:

When does a 16 year old start a fight with a 30 plus grown az man?? How can you claim self defense when you started the fight?
There are countless cases of young kids assaulting older people.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/06/19/05/52/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;girls-filmed-assaulting-man-on-melbourne-train
The teenagers can be heard abusing Mr Stapleford in video footage shot from this point.
"I hope you enjoy your shower...free shower," one of the girls can be heard saying.

"I'm not sitting next to a ... Don't touch me. Next time you touch me I'll kill you. Kill everything you f---ing love,"
The victim told the Herald Sun he could not believe what had happened.
"The bigger girl got up and threw some of the contents of her energy drink at me. I was stunned, surprised. I just thought, 'What is this world coming to?'," he said.
http://globalnews.ca/news/704574/man-ru ... -attacked/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Two teenagers are facing charges in connection to the assault of an 86-year-old man Tuesday morning.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;two-feral-teens-filmed-physically-and-verbally-assaulting-a-man-on-a-packed-rush-hour-train/story-fni0fit3-1226665951514

http://www.news10.net/news/article/2435 ... lle-man-79" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A 79-year-old Roseville man was taken to the hospital Tuesday after being assaulted by five youths in front of his home on the 900 block of Douglas Boulevard, say police.
The Word is TEENS(more than one). Travon was by himself walking home from the store. Lets be real about this. When you were 17 years old, who would have started a fight with a grown azz man. I will never belive that a single 17 year old boy started a fight with a grown man. I would belive this if it was Travon a and tree other teens.

Nice try Sir!, but that dawg don't hunt.
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Younger vs older.
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