D1B wrote:Bullshit.AZGrizFan wrote:
And the same geniuses 30 years ago were convinced we were going into an ice age.

D1B wrote:Bullshit.AZGrizFan wrote:
And the same geniuses 30 years ago were convinced we were going into an ice age.


D1B OWNED again.Baldy wrote:D1B wrote:
Bullshit.

Couple of fuck wad conks. TIME!AZGrizFan wrote:D1B OWNED again.Baldy wrote:
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One would presume they were the experts in their respective fields at the time. Much like the yokels you slobber over today...either way, they're wrong WAY more than they're right and turning the world upside down over the predictions of a bunch of paid-off snake-oil salesmen isn't the answer.D1B wrote:Couple of fuck wad conks. TIME!AZGrizFan wrote:
D1B OWNED again.![]()
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Same Geniuses? Prove it, limp dick.

So we're presuming now.AZGrizFan wrote:One would presume they were the experts in their respective fields at the time.D1B wrote:
Couple of fuck wad conks. TIME!![]()
Same Geniuses? Prove it, limp dick.

"Same" was a generic statement, lumpy. Leave it to you to take it literally.D1B wrote:So we're presuming now.AZGrizFan wrote:
One would presume they were the experts in their respective fields at the time.![]()
While you're backpeddling, prove they're the same geniuses, limp dick.

Nice back peddalin, limp dick.AZGrizFan wrote:"Same" was a generic statement, lumpy. Leave it to you to take it literally.D1B wrote:
So we're presuming now.![]()
While you're backpeddling, prove they're the same geniuses, limp dick.![]()
Take your defeat like a man.
Via The Hill:
New Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz doesn’t want to spend his tenure battling over climate science.
“Let me make it very clear that there is no ambiguity in terms of the scientific basis calling for a prudent response on climate change,” Moniz told Energy Department employees shortly after his swearing-in.
“I am not interested in debating what is not debatable,” Moniz said in his remarks at the Tuesday ceremony. “There is plenty to debate as we try and move forward on our climate agenda.”
The comment was part of much wider-ranging remarks, available here, on Moniz’s overall agenda.



The computer models and easy access to information alone has changed the game. Weather is a big part of my business. If you watch NOAA's forecasts on a daily basis like I do, you'll find it's highly accurate in both short term and seasonal forecasting. If you live in Tornado Ally, paying close attention to their science might also save your life.D1B wrote:Nice back peddalin, limp dick.AZGrizFan wrote:
"Same" was a generic statement, lumpy. Leave it to you to take it literally.![]()
Take your defeat like a man.![]()
Your argument essentially is, the science and scientists referenced in 2 issues of TIME magazine from the 70's![]()
is generally the same as the science and scientists of today, 2013.
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Shut the hell up, Kalm. Go find your own dumb conk! Z is mine.kalm wrote:The computer models and easy access to information alone has changed the game. Weather is a big part of my business. If you watch NOAA's forecasts on a daily basis like I do, you'll find it's highly accurate in both short term and seasonal forecasting. If you live in Tornado Ally, paying close attention to their science might also save your life.D1B wrote:
Nice back peddalin, limp dick.![]()
Your argument essentially is, the science and scientists referenced in 2 issues of TIME magazine from the 70's![]()
is generally the same as the science and scientists of today, 2013.
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So those dumb bastards in Oklahoma just didn't pay close enough attention?kalm wrote:The computer models and easy access to information alone has changed the game. Weather is a big part of my business. If you watch NOAA's forecasts on a daily basis like I do, you'll find it's highly accurate in both short term and seasonal forecasting. If you live in Tornado Ally, paying close attention to their science might also save your life.D1B wrote:
Nice back peddalin, limp dick.![]()
Your argument essentially is, the science and scientists referenced in 2 issues of TIME magazine from the 70's![]()
is generally the same as the science and scientists of today, 2013.
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Uh, they did pay close attention, you stupid fucking conk. Thousands would have been killed in the 70's. They would have been sitting in their living rooms reading TIME, right before heading to Oz.AZGrizFan wrote:So those dumb bastards in Oklahoma just didn't pay close enough attention?kalm wrote:
The computer models and easy access to information alone has changed the game. Weather is a big part of my business. If you watch NOAA's forecasts on a daily basis like I do, you'll find it's highly accurate in both short term and seasonal forecasting. If you live in Tornado Ally, paying close attention to their science might also save your life.

I'm not talking about THOSE dumb bastards. I'm talking about the ones who aren't here anymore. Are you fucking retarded?D1B wrote:Uh, they did pay close attention, you stupid fucking conk. Thousands would have been killed in the 70's. They would have been sitting in their living rooms reading TIME, right before heading to Oz.AZGrizFan wrote:
So those dumb bastards in Oklahoma just didn't pay close enough attention?![]()
You're just a glutton for punishment.

AZGrizFan wrote:I'm not talking about THOSE dumb bastards. I'm talking about the ones who aren't here anymore. Are you fucking retarded?D1B wrote:
Uh, they did pay close attention, you stupid fucking conk. Thousands would have been killed in the 70's. They would have been sitting in their living rooms reading TIME, right before heading to Oz.![]()
You're just a glutton for punishment.

D1B wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
I'm not talking about THOSE dumb bastards. I'm talking about the ones who aren't here anymore. Are you fucking retarded?
Nice backpeddal limp dick. You're flailing.

Why not? It's what the alarmists do.D1B wrote:So we're presuming now.AZGrizFan wrote:
One would presume they were the experts in their respective fields at the time.

AZGrizFan wrote:So those dumb bastards in Oklahoma just didn't pay close enough attention?kalm wrote:
The computer models and easy access to information alone has changed the game. Weather is a big part of my business. If you watch NOAA's forecasts on a daily basis like I do, you'll find it's highly accurate in both short term and seasonal forecasting. If you live in Tornado Ally, paying close attention to their science might also save your life.
Dumb fuck conks requiring the world to be literally on fire before they accept the fact that the globe is warming at an alarming rate.Baldy wrote:Why not? It's what the alarmists do.D1B wrote:
So we're presuming now.

D1B wrote:
End of thread. Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeext......

Baldy wrote:D1B wrote:
End of thread. Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeext......
"Are Spending Their Limited Operating Budgets"![]()
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Not sure what is so confusing.kalm wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2 ... -hysteria/According to the GAO, annual federal climate spending has increased from $4.6 billion in 2003 to $8.8 billion in 2010, amounting to $106.7 billion over that period. The money was spent in four general categories: technology to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, science to understand climate changes, international assistance for developing countries, and wildlife adaptation to respond to actual or expected changes. Technology spending, the largest category, grew from $2.56 billion to $5.5 billion over this period, increasingly advancing over others in total share. Data compiled by Joanne Nova at the Science and Policy Institute indicates that the U.S. Government spent more than $32.5 billion on climate studies between 1989 and 2009. This doesn’t count about $79 billion more spent for climate change technology research, foreign aid and tax breaks for “green energy.”
Considering oil companies made $123 billion profit in one year alone (2007), I'd call that small potatoes over the 20 year period referenced.Baldy wrote:Not sure what is so confusing.kalm wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2 ... -hysteria/According to the GAO, annual federal climate spending has increased from $4.6 billion in 2003 to $8.8 billion in 2010, amounting to $106.7 billion over that period. The money was spent in four general categories: technology to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, science to understand climate changes, international assistance for developing countries, and wildlife adaptation to respond to actual or expected changes. Technology spending, the largest category, grew from $2.56 billion to $5.5 billion over this period, increasingly advancing over others in total share. Data compiled by Joanne Nova at the Science and Policy Institute indicates that the U.S. Government spent more than $32.5 billion on climate studies between 1989 and 2009. This doesn’t count about $79 billion more spent for climate change technology research, foreign aid and tax breaks for “green energy.”
Do all those billions and billions and billions of research dollars equate to "limited operating budgets" to you?

So, are you implying that the oil companies spend ALL their profits on defeating global warming science?93henfan wrote:Considering oil companies made $123 billion profit in one year alone (2007), I'd call that small potatoes over the 20 year period referenced.Baldy wrote:
Not sure what is so confusing.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2 ... -hysteria/
Do all those billions and billions and billions of research dollars equate to "limited operating budgets" to you?
Oil makes four times as much in one year as the US Government puts into climate research over 20 years combined. Wow. That's perspective.

