bible...really???

[ASUMountaineer]

Intolerance in Galatians

If anyone dares to disagree with Paul on religious matters, "let him be accursed." 1:8-9

Those who try to follow the law are cursed. 3:10

"I would they were even cut off which trouble you." Gosh, that doesn't sound very nice. But I wonder what Paul meant by "cut off". The New Revised Standard Version translates this verse as: "I wish those who unsettle you would castrate themselves!" 5:12

Witches, idol worshippers, and heretics will not go to heaven. (Guess where they'll be going.) 5:20-21

[YoUDeeMan]

Then you weren't paying attention, or think that preaching that gays are not equal is not hatred, which it is.

People aren't equal...what ever gave you that idea?

If push came to shove, you certainly would not treat people equally...you've already displayed that type of thinking on here.

So get off your high horse...all that riding around has made you a tight azz.

[JohnStOnge]

Then you weren't paying attention, or think that preaching that gays are not equal is not hatred, which it is.

Sometimes I pay attention and sometimes I don't. But I've paid attention enough to know they don't typically preach hatred. Some may. But none that I've been to. I've never heard any of the preachers preach that homosexuals are not "equal." They preach that homosexual behavior is sinful.

This is the gist of what I get from listening to them: We are all equal in that none of us deserve salvation. All of us are sinners and there is no way we can every "earn" salvation through our "works." Jesus Christ died on the cross to redeem all of us so that we can have the salvation; which I think is going to heaven. But if you follow Jesus Christ you're going to at least try to avoid certain things. And one of them is homosexual behavior.

And of COURSE they believe that marriage is between one man and one woman.

[grizzaholic]

Really glad my joke of a thread turned into the usual bible bashing...

[SeattleGriz]

Quit taking things out of context D. God doesn't speak in plain english. He likes to riddle.

That's what is so interesting about D's quotes. Do they know Hebrew or Greek? If you don't know either, then you need to rely on scholars to help you out to the original intent. I doubt evilbible.com has anyone of significance on staff who has studies on the subject.

Very easy to pull something out of context.

[YoUDeeMan]

Quit taking things out of context D. God doesn't speak in plain english. He likes to riddle.

That's what is so interesting about D's quotes. Do they know Hebrew or Greek? If you don't know either, then you need to rely on scholars to help you out to the original intent. I doubt evilbible.com has anyone of significance on staff who has studies on the subject.

Very easy to pull something out of context.

Interesting God. "Hey, I'll send an important message that people won't will be able to read or agree on it's translation over time."

Winning formula!

[SeattleGriz]

That's what is so interesting about D's quotes. Do they know Hebrew or Greek? If you don't know either, then you need to rely on scholars to help you out to the original intent. I doubt evilbible.com has anyone of significance on staff who has studies on the subject.

Very easy to pull something out of context.

Interesting God. "Hey, I'll send an important message that people won't will be able to read or agree on it's translation over time."

Winning formula!

Nice try. God sent the message, it is about how we translate. Would you have preferred God sent his message in 21st century format (syntax)? Brilliant!

[clenz]

That's what is so interesting about D's quotes. Do they know Hebrew or Greek? If you don't know either, then you need to rely on scholars to help you out to the original intent. I doubt evilbible.com has anyone of significance on staff who has studies on the subject.

Very easy to pull something out of context.

Interesting God. "Hey, I'll send an important message that people won't will be able to read or agree on it's translation over time."

Winning formula!

sounds a lot like the Mormon gold plates...or the Qur'an only being spoken to Muhammad and him writing his version of it...

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[death dealer]

Then you weren't paying attention, or think that preaching that gays are not equal is not hatred, which it is.

That seems like an overstatement of the truth. Saying someone is not equal to you is not the same as hating them anymore than considering someone your equal excludes you from hating them. I understand your agenda and need for it to be true, but your logic doesn't work. Feel free to rant and rave away. It won't make you any less correct, but if it makes you feel better, good for you.

For the record: I don't give a shit who you stick your pecker in, or who sticks their pecker into you. It is truly none of my business.And if youve got some hard-on to run off and get married, well that's your mistake to make. And the fact of the matter is I hate all you bastards, so see? But then again, I hate just about everybody.

[SeattleGriz]

Interesting God. "Hey, I'll send an important message that people won't will be able to read or agree on it's translation over time."

Winning formula!

sounds a lot like the Mormon gold plates...or the Qur'an only being spoken to Muhammad and him writing his version of it...

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Totally wrong. The Mormon plates required a special pair of glasses and breastplate to read. The Word of God was given to man and it is our job to pass it along.

Nice try though.

[BlueHen86]

Interesting God. "Hey, I'll send an important message that people won't will be able to read or agree on it's translation over time."

Winning formula!

Nice try. God sent the message, it is about how we translate. Would you have preferred God sent his message in 21st century format (syntax)? Brilliant!

I'd prefer that God show up now and clarify His message. Whatever His message is, we've done a good job of mistranslating it over the past few millennia. Maybe God could start a blog; a Facebook page or a twitter account.

[SeattleGriz]

Nice try. God sent the message, it is about how we translate. Would you have preferred God sent his message in 21st century format (syntax)? Brilliant!

I'd prefer that God show up now and clarify His message. Whatever His message is, we've done a good job of mistranslating it over the past few millennia. Maybe God could start a blog; a Facebook page or a twitter account.

As always, good one. If God Did create the Universe, we have No way of understanding Him.
Don't hate my vague answer, it's physics.

[BlueHen86]

I'd prefer that God show up now and clarify His message. Whatever His message is, we've done a good job of mistranslating it over the past few millennia. Maybe God could start a blog; a Facebook page or a twitter account.

As always, good one. If God Did create the Universe, we have No way of understanding Him.
Don't hate my vague answer, it's physics.

Maybe He could use emoticons.

[clenz]

sounds a lot like the Mormon gold plates...or the Qur'an only being spoken to Muhammad and him writing his version of it...

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Totally wrong. The Mormon plates required a special pair of glasses and breastplate to read. The Word of God was given to man and it is our job to pass it along.

Nice try though.

So...which version is right....

The one god gave the Christians
The one god gave the Jews
or
The one god gave the Muslims


Remember...they are all the same god. Apparently god suffers from multiple personality disorder giving out three very different versions of "his word" and what gods followers should do.

[clenz]

I'd prefer that God show up now and clarify His message. Whatever His message is, we've done a good job of mistranslating it over the past few millennia. Maybe God could start a blog; a Facebook page or a twitter account.

As always, good one. If God Did create the Universe, we have No way of understanding Him.
Don't hate my vague answer, it's physics.

So....what you are saying is religion is nothing but complete bullshit made up by man to find ways to manipulate and control others?


If so...A-FUCKING-MEN

[kalm]

Clenz and 86 are killing it on this here thread.

[mrklean]

Then you weren't paying attention, or think that preaching that gays are not equal is not hatred, which it is.

Sometimes I pay attention and sometimes I don't. But I've paid attention enough to know they don't typically preach hatred. Some may. But none that I've been to. I've never heard any of the preachers preach that homosexuals are not "equal." They preach that homosexual behavior is sinful.

This is the gist of what I get from listening to them: We are all equal in that none of us deserve salvation. All of us are sinners and there is no way we can every "earn" salvation through our "works." Jesus Christ died on the cross to redeem all of us so that we can have the salvation; which I think is going to heaven. But if you follow Jesus Christ you're going to at least try to avoid certain things. And one of them is homosexual behavior.

And of COURSE they believe that marriage is between one man and one woman.

John, first you have to look at the time the bible was first spoken. At that time, yo had several small communites. The first thing was to get married and have children. at the end of the day, Two gay people can't make baby......PERIOD. How is the community going to survive? That may sound so simple minded now, but in 2000 B.C., they took that very serious. To back that up, look at communites that have small population at that time, and they two were against the gay life style. The bigger the city, the more homosexuality you saw, Rome, Athens. But now in 2013, I could give a damn if two men wat to get married. I dont care. In fact, gay men make great neighbors. I used to live next to two gay men and they were so of the best people I knew.

[D1B]

Quit taking things out of context D. God doesn't speak in plain english. He likes to riddle.

That's what is so interesting about D's quotes. Do they know Hebrew or Greek? If you don't know either, then you need to rely on scholars to help you out to the original intent. I doubt evilbible.com has anyone of significance on staff who has studies on the subject.

Very easy to pull something out of context.

Yes they do know Aramaic and Greek. They know more about the bible and other books of bullshit than you'll ever know, about anything.

The shit you read in the bible sounds about right for an ignorant culture trying to make sense of it all. You are an asshole for believing it.

Own your absurdity.

[D1B]

Really glad my joke of a thread turned into the usual bible bashing...

Another one of your desperate cries for attention.

[SeattleGriz]

That's what is so interesting about D's quotes. Do they know Hebrew or Greek? If you don't know either, then you need to rely on scholars to help you out to the original intent. I doubt evilbible.com has anyone of significance on staff who has studies on the subject.

Very easy to pull something out of context.

Yes they do know Aramaic and Greek. They know more about the bible and other books of bullshit than you'll ever know, about anything.

The shit you read in the bible sounds about right for an ignorant culture trying to make sense of it all. You are an asshole for believing it.

Own your absurdity.

Chris and Charlotte?! Classic.

[D1B]

Yes they do know Aramaic and Greek. They know more about the bible and other books of bullshit than you'll ever know, about anything.

The shit you read in the bible sounds about right for an ignorant culture trying to make sense of it all. You are an asshole for believing it.

Own your absurdity.

Chris and Charlotte?! Classic.

You're a classic shithead.

[Ibanez]

Sometimes I pay attention and sometimes I don't. But I've paid attention enough to know they don't typically preach hatred. Some may. But none that I've been to. I've never heard any of the preachers preach that homosexuals are not "equal." They preach that homosexual behavior is sinful.

This is the gist of what I get from listening to them: We are all equal in that none of us deserve salvation. All of us are sinners and there is no way we can every "earn" salvation through our "works." Jesus Christ died on the cross to redeem all of us so that we can have the salvation; which I think is going to heaven. But if you follow Jesus Christ you're going to at least try to avoid certain things. And one of them is homosexual behavior.

And of COURSE they believe that marriage is between one man and one woman.

John, first you have to look at the time the bible was first spoken. At that time, yo had several small communites. The first thing was to get married and have children. at the end of the day, Two gay people can't make baby......PERIOD. How is the community going to survive? That may sound so simple minded now, but in 2000 B.C., they took that very serious. To back that up, look at communites that have small population at that time, and they two were against the gay life style. The bigger the city, the more homosexuality you saw, Rome, Athens. But now in 2013, I could give a damn if two men wat to get married. I dont care. In fact, gay men make great neighbors. I used to live next to two gay men and they were so of the best people I knew.

The bible was supposedly written at a time when illiteracy was the norm. Interesting.

Btw, how many Middle Easterns have you met named Thoams, Mark, Matthew, Luke, Peter, Moses, etc.... Not a single one.

The bible was written over time as oral tradition and has been grossly exaggeratted. Furthermore, the New Testament was written decades after "Jesus" and the books that are included were first voted on then edited to present a certain story. It's bullshit.

[JohnStOnge]

John, first you have to look at the time the bible was first spoken. At that time, yo had several small communites. The first thing was to get married and have children. at the end of the day, Two gay people can't make baby......PERIOD. How is the community going to survive? That may sound so simple minded now, but in 2000 B.C., they took that very serious. To back that up, look at communites that have small population at that time, and they two were against the gay life style. The bigger the city, the more homosexuality you saw, Rome, Athens. But now in 2013, I could give a damn if two men wat to get married. I dont care. In fact, gay men make great neighbors. I used to live next to two gay men and they were so of the best people I knew.

I don't know about the homosexual lifestyle stuff in general but I agree with the "make a baby" thing being key to the existence of the institution of marriage. That, I think, is why it exists. Whether it was marriage involving one man and one woman or marriage involving one man having multiple wives. The reason, I think, the concept evolved is that it provided a stable environment in which children were produced and nurtured biologically. And that fact is not altered by the fact that it's possible for males and females to get married under circumstances in which there is no chance that they will have children.

I think it's absolutely absurd to be even talking about "marriage" encompassing two members of the same sex. But that in itself isn't my issue with homosexuality.

My issue is more "global." To me it's a classic example of egalitarianism corrupting rational thought starting with the process that led the American Psychiatric Association removing homosexuality from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. A body of practitioners of science...or pseudo science...cast objectivity aside in order to promote egaltiarianism. They declared that people who are obviously sick are not sick.

And it went from there. Then we went into decades of indoctrination of young people in schools and such. There was no defense because the experts had spoken. Never mind that the objectivity of the experts had been compromised by their philosophical orientation.

If people believe "the experts" when it comes to homosexuality...if they believe that having a preference for members of your own sex is not disfunctional because "the experts say so"...they will believe anything. They have cast their own critical thinking ability away. As I've said before, it reminds me of the story of The Emperor's New Clothes. People have been told what the "enlightened" view is. So they have adopted it. Never mind that it is obviously a crock.

[BlueHen86]

John, first you have to look at the time the bible was first spoken. At that time, yo had several small communites. The first thing was to get married and have children. at the end of the day, Two gay people can't make baby......PERIOD. How is the community going to survive? That may sound so simple minded now, but in 2000 B.C., they took that very serious. To back that up, look at communites that have small population at that time, and they two were against the gay life style. The bigger the city, the more homosexuality you saw, Rome, Athens. But now in 2013, I could give a damn if two men wat to get married. I dont care. In fact, gay men make great neighbors. I used to live next to two gay men and they were so of the best people I knew.

I don't know about the homosexual lifestyle stuff in general but I agree with the "make a baby" thing being key to the existence of the institution of marriage. That, I think, is why it exists. Whether it was marriage involving one man and one woman or marriage involving one man having multiple wives. The reason, I think, the concept evolved is that it provided a stable environment in which children were produced and nurtured biologically. And that fact is not altered by the fact that it's possible for males and females to get married under circumstances in which there is no chance that they will have children.

I think it's absolutely absurd to be even talking about "marriage" encompassing two members of the same sex. But that in itself isn't my issue with homosexuality.

My issue is more "global." To me it's a classic example of egalitarianism corrupting rational thought starting with the process that led the American Psychiatric Association removing homosexuality from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. A body of practitioners of science...or pseudo science...cast objectivity aside in order to promote egaltiarianism. They declared that people who are obviously sick are not sick.

And it went from there. Then we went into decades of indoctrination of young people in schools and such. There was no defense because the experts had spoken. Never mind that the objectivity of the experts had been compromised by their philosophical orientation.

If people believe "the experts" when it comes to homosexuality...if they believe that having a preference for members of your own sex is not disfunctional because "the experts say so"...they will believe anything. They have cast their own critical thinking ability away. As I've said before, it reminds me of the story of The Emperor's New Clothes. People have been told what the "enlightened" view is. So they have adopted it. Never mind that it is obviously a crock.

You need to move on. Homosexuality isn't hurting anyone, including you. You are wasting your energy on this issue.

[kalm]

John, first you have to look at the time the bible was first spoken. At that time, yo had several small communites. The first thing was to get married and have children. at the end of the day, Two gay people can't make baby......PERIOD. How is the community going to survive? That may sound so simple minded now, but in 2000 B.C., they took that very serious. To back that up, look at communites that have small population at that time, and they two were against the gay life style. The bigger the city, the more homosexuality you saw, Rome, Athens. But now in 2013, I could give a damn if two men wat to get married. I dont care. In fact, gay men make great neighbors. I used to live next to two gay men and they were so of the best people I knew.

I don't know about the homosexual lifestyle stuff in general but I agree with the "make a baby" thing being key to the existence of the institution of marriage. That, I think, is why it exists. Whether it was marriage involving one man and one woman or marriage involving one man having multiple wives. The reason, I think, the concept evolved is that it provided a stable environment in which children were produced and nurtured biologically. And that fact is not altered by the fact that it's possible for males and females to get married under circumstances in which there is no chance that they will have children.

I think it's absolutely absurd to be even talking about "marriage" encompassing two members of the same sex. But that in itself isn't my issue with homosexuality.

My issue is more "global." To me it's a classic example of egalitarianism corrupting rational thought starting with the process that led the American Psychiatric Association removing homosexuality from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. A body of practitioners of science...or pseudo science...cast objectivity aside in order to promote egaltiarianism. They declared that people who are obviously sick are not sick.

And it went from there. Then we went into decades of indoctrination of young people in schools and such. There was no defense because the experts had spoken. Never mind that the objectivity of the experts had been compromised by their philosophical orientation.

If people believe "the experts" when it comes to homosexuality...if they believe that having a preference for members of your own sex is not disfunctional because "the experts say so"...they will believe anything. They have cast their own critical thinking ability away. As I've said before, it reminds me of the story of The Emperor's New Clothes. People have been told what the "enlightened" view is. So they have adopted it. Never mind that it is obviously a crock.

Trying not to suggest you come out of the closet but...