Maryland and the Death Penalty

[89Hen]

Still, I think we need an ultimate deterrent for the beyond-the-shadow-of-a-doubt type murderers that commit the most heinous acts, and I don't really care if they were nuts or otherwise mentally defective by birth or environment. McVey, Loughner, the Marine that just killed the SEAL. All good folks to hang IMHO.

Who will it deter?

[93henfan]

Still, I think we need an ultimate deterrent for the beyond-the-shadow-of-a-doubt type murderers that commit the most heinous acts, and I don't really care if they were nuts or otherwise mentally defective by birth or environment. McVey, Loughner, the Marine that just killed the SEAL. All good folks to hang IMHO.

Who will it deter?

You bring up a good point. Is it really a deterrent, any more than life in prison? I can't answer that question.

I do know that if it makes the survivor(s) of the victim of a heinous crime feel better to have the criminal executed, I think the death penalty serves a beneficial purpose. Of course, they may also prefer to have the person rot in jail. I guess that's where sentencing testimony comes into play.

[89Hen]

Who will it deter?

You bring up a good point. Is it really a deterrent, any more than life in prison? I can't answer that question.

I do know that if it makes the survivor(s) of the victim of a heinous crime feel better to have the criminal executed, I think the death penalty serves a beneficial purpose. Of course, they may also prefer to have the person rot in jail. I guess that's where sentencing testimony comes into play.

I don't think it's a deterrent because of what I stated earlier...

My take is that people that commit such heinous crimes that could warrant a death penalty are mentally disturbed or deficient.

As for knowing it makes survivors of the victims feel better... you can't say that with certainty.

When asked what she would say if she came face to face with her son’s suspected killer, Ferguson kindly replied: “I would tell him I forgive him because, a lot of times, they don’t know what they’re doing. That’s all I’d say.

Presenting him with a Bible signed by the family of the woman he helped kill three years ago in Lake Vista, the victim's daughter in court Friday told a convicted murderer that she forgives him.

“My mother wanted you to know … that we forgive you,’’ James told Mayhew, whose only prior conviction was for marijuana possession. “No one is winning this case. We’ve all lost something. We lost a precious brother and your family is going to be losing you.

“I just feel really sad that two people who I thought was friends found that they had to hurt each other like this. It’s hurting both of our families," James said.

From the bench, Superior Court Judge Christine McEvoy was moved by James's words and her family’s compassionate outlook.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Exactly. I think the only way for it to be a truly effective deterrent is to have a Saudi Arabia-style, cut-your-head-off-at-dawn system.

Yeah, we should model our justice system after Saudi Arabia.

Its better than what we have right now.

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[Grizalltheway]

Exactly. I think the only way for it to be a truly effective deterrent is to have a Saudi Arabia-style, cut-your-head-off-at-dawn system.

Yeah, we should model our justice system after Saudi Arabia.

I wasn't implying we should. I was agreeing with G8 that it isn't an effective deterrent as is, and many times just turns into life on death row. Now piss off.

[ASUG8]

Yeah, we should model our justice system after Saudi Arabia.

I wasn't implying we should. I was agreeing with G8 that it isn't an effective deterrent as is, and many times just turns into life on death row. Now piss off.

I Googled this guy we put away and he's 85th or 86th on NC's list. After 17 yrs. Seems like TX, NV, and VA are pretty aggressive with executions but not in NC.

[89Hen]

Yeah, we should model our justice system after Saudi Arabia.

Its better than what we have right now.

So you're a proponent of Sharia Law. Noted.

[93henfan]

You bring up a good point. Is it really a deterrent, any more than life in prison? I can't answer that question.

I do know that if it makes the survivor(s) of the victim of a heinous crime feel better to have the criminal executed, I think the death penalty serves a beneficial purpose. Of course, they may also prefer to have the person rot in jail. I guess that's where sentencing testimony comes into play.

I don't think it's a deterrent because of what I stated earlier...

My take is that people that commit such heinous crimes that could warrant a death penalty are mentally disturbed or deficient.

As for knowing it makes survivors of the victims feel better... you can't say that with certainty.

When asked what she would say if she came face to face with her son’s suspected killer, Ferguson kindly replied: “I would tell him I forgive him because, a lot of times, they don’t know what they’re doing. That’s all I’d say.

Presenting him with a Bible signed by the family of the woman he helped kill three years ago in Lake Vista, the victim's daughter in court Friday told a convicted murderer that she forgives him.

“My mother wanted you to know … that we forgive you,’’ James told Mayhew, whose only prior conviction was for marijuana possession. “No one is winning this case. We’ve all lost something. We lost a precious brother and your family is going to be losing you.

“I just feel really sad that two people who I thought was friends found that they had to hurt each other like this. It’s hurting both of our families," James said.

From the bench, Superior Court Judge Christine McEvoy was moved by James's words and her family’s compassionate outlook.

Forgiveness is for fags and churchgoers. I hold grudges forever.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Its better than what we have right now.

So you're a proponent of Sharia Law. Noted.

Their crime stats speak for themselves.

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[93henfan]

So you're a proponent of Sharia Law. Noted.

Their crime stats speak for themselves.

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And their wives don't talk back when they ask for a sammie.

You know every time you hear about a woman getting stoned for looking at another man? That's code for "didn't get my fucking sammie fast enough".

[89Hen]

So you're a proponent of Sharia Law. Noted.

Their crime stats speak for themselves.

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Now I know you're just fishing.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Their crime stats speak for themselves.

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Now I know you're just fishing.

Really are you going to tell me how much higher their crime rate is over there? Everyone knows if your going to commit crime do it in the USA and you get a comfy room 3 squares a day healthcare cable and access to more education than most Americans have.

93 knows about AKs and so much more.



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[Grizalltheway]

Now I know you're just fishing.

Really are you going to tell me how much higher their crime rate is over there? Everyone knows if your going to commit crime do it in the USA and you get a comfy room 3 squares a day healthcare cable and access to more education than most Americans have.

93 knows about AKs and so much more.



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Not that simple.

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Really are you going to tell me how much higher their crime rate is over there? Everyone knows if your going to commit crime do it in the USA and you get a comfy room 3 squares a day healthcare cable and access to more education than most Americans have.

93 knows about AKs and so much more.



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Not that simple.

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Have I ever wanted you to chime in on a subject?

Oh thats right.........NO!

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[89Hen]

Really are you going to tell me how much higher their crime rate is over there? Everyone knows if your going to commit crime do it in the USA and you get a comfy room 3 squares a day healthcare cable and access to more education than most Americans have.

I'm not going to tell you anything about Saudi Arabia, because like you, I don't know shit about them other than they have a really fucked up way of punishing people and repressing women.

Do you really think prison is a bargain?

[93henfan]

Really are you going to tell me how much higher their crime rate is over there? Everyone knows if your going to commit crime do it in the USA and you get a comfy room 3 squares a day healthcare cable and access to more education than most Americans have.

93 knows about AKs and so much more.



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Not that simple.

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Well, Saudi is better than the USA on your map. Your point?

[dbackjon]

I don't think it's a deterrent because of what I stated earlier...



As for knowing it makes survivors of the victims feel better... you can't say that with certainty.

Forgiveness is for fags and churchgoers. I hold grudges forever.

So there is one thing you hold on to afer all...


And no, you are not forgiven.

[93henfan]

Forgiveness is for fags and churchgoers. I hold grudges forever.

So there is one thing you hold on to afer all...


And no, you are not forgiven.

I hate when Jon reads my insensitive posts about gays. It's a good thing my gay sister doesn't read this board.

[ASUG8]

Really are you going to tell me how much higher their crime rate is over there? Everyone knows if your going to commit crime do it in the USA and you get a comfy room 3 squares a day healthcare cable and access to more education than most Americans have.

93 knows about AKs and so much more.



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Not that simple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_o ... e_rate.png" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow....didn't think a visit to Greenland would be as dangerous as the Sudan.

[dbackjon]

So there is one thing you hold on to afer all...


And no, you are not forgiven.

I hate when Jon reads my insensitive posts about gays. It's a good thing my gay sister doesn't read this board.

I knew I should have replied twice to your post - you totally missed my first part.


We can work it out over say, a six pack?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Really are you going to tell me how much higher their crime rate is over there? Everyone knows if your going to commit crime do it in the USA and you get a comfy room 3 squares a day healthcare cable and access to more education than most Americans have.

I'm not going to tell you anything about Saudi Arabia, because like you, I don't know shit about them other than they have a really fucked up way of punishing people and repressing women.

Do you really think prison is a bargain?

Thanks for telling me I know nothing about Saudi Arabia....

And yes if you get caught doing crime in this country and have to go to prison here its the Hilton compared to anywhere else.

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[93henfan]

Not that simple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_o ... e_rate.png" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow....didn't think a visit to Greenland would be as dangerous as the Sudan.

Bjork will shank a bitch.

Spoiler: show

Yeah, Iceland. I know. What's the difference, really?

[dbackjon]

Wow....didn't think a visit to Greenland would be as dangerous as the Sudan.

Bjork will shank a bitch.

Spoiler: show

Yeah, Iceland. I know. What's the difference, really?

Spoiler: show

One is Green, the other Ice

[ASUG8]

Wow....didn't think a visit to Greenland would be as dangerous as the Sudan.

Bjork will shank a bitch.

Spoiler: show

Yeah, Iceland. I know. What's the difference, really?

Meh, you get an "A-" for finding a way to finally inject Bjork into a thread, even if you're only hand grenade close on your countries.

[89Hen]

And yes if you get caught doing crime in this country and have to go to prison here its the Hilton compared to anywhere else.

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It's not because they are Hiltons, it's because other countries are barbaric.