Not when you count the exemptions US companies get...Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:houndawg wrote:
Oh. My bad. You seem to know so much about what living in Europe is like that I thought you had actually lived there.
The top 20 countries with the highest personal incomes tax all are in Europe. Belgium-Germany-France are the highest with 50% or higher. But all those countries have considerably lower corporate tax rates compared to the US.
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You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:houndawg wrote:
Oh. My bad. You seem to know so much about what living in Europe is like that I thought you had actually lived there.
The top 20 countries with the highest personal incomes tax all are in Europe. Belgium-Germany-France are the highest with 50% or higher. But all those countries have considerably lower corporate tax rates compared to the US.
Belgium-Germany-France also all have longer life expectancy than the US.
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
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Congressional Research Service says the effective corporate tax rate for the US is 27.1%, as opposed to the other OECD countries average of 27.7%. 
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
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I wouldn't mind paying more in taxes if I got more in return. But from my standpoint, the federal govt is just a big pain in my ass. They send my friends kids, spouses, fathers, and mothers off to fight stupid wars, they spend mega bucks keeping stupid genetically inferior people alive and well fed so that they can breed even more knuckle dragging morons, they pass regulations that accomplish little other than creating another layer of red tape while not addressing the issue that the regulation was spoked to be aimed at, meanwhile, our infrastructure is collapsing, our schools are all but useless, the environment is slowly dying, healthcare is a disaster, our culture is becoming this weird mix of redneck/hip hop/reality star/celebritard/cruddy miasma that is kinda scummy and unpleasant to look at. We are definitely devolving as a species at the base level. All of our efforts seem to be solely directed at the comfort, pleasure, and entertainment of the moment. There are no really great efforts out there that are inspiring and pushing our species forward into the next level of being. Instead, our great achievements are thinner phones, faster computers that can run better games, md other esoteric bullshit like that.houndawg wrote:Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
The top 20 countries with the highest personal incomes tax all are in Europe. Belgium-Germany-France are the highest with 50% or higher. But all those countries have considerably lower corporate tax rates compared to the US.
Belgium-Germany-France also all have longer life expectancy than the US.
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What's living longer worth if you're living like s#!t?houndawg wrote:Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
The top 20 countries with the highest personal incomes tax all are in Europe. Belgium-Germany-France are the highest with 50% or higher. But all those countries have considerably lower corporate tax rates compared to the US.
Belgium-Germany-France also all have longer life expectancy than the US.
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You're watching way too much TV.death dealer wrote:I wouldn't mind paying more in taxes if I got more in return. But from my standpoint, the federal govt is just a big pain in my ass. They send my friends kids, spouses, fathers, and mothers off to fight stupid wars, they spend mega bucks keeping stupid genetically inferior people alive and well fed so that they can breed even more knuckle dragging morons, they pass regulations that accomplish little other than creating another layer of red tape while not addressing the issue that the regulation was spoked to be aimed at, meanwhile, our infrastructure is collapsing, our schools are all but useless, the environment is slowly dying, healthcare is a disaster, our culture is becoming this weird mix of redneck/hip hop/reality star/celebritard/cruddy miasma that is kinda scummy and unpleasant to look at. We are definitely devolving as a species at the base level. All of our efforts seem to be solely directed at the comfort, pleasure, and entertainment of the moment. There are no really great efforts out there that are inspiring and pushing our species forward into the next level of being. Instead, our great achievements are thinner phones, faster computers that can run better games, md other esoteric bullshit like that.houndawg wrote:
Belgium-Germany-France also all have longer life expectancy than the US.
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I don't actually own a television. We do have Macs and a netflix subscription. But, fail again dumbo.D1B wrote:You're watching way too much TV.death dealer wrote: I wouldn't mind paying more in taxes if I got more in return. But from my standpoint, the federal govt is just a big pain in my ass. They send my friends kids, spouses, fathers, and mothers off to fight stupid wars, they spend mega bucks keeping stupid genetically inferior people alive and well fed so that they can breed even more knuckle dragging morons, they pass regulations that accomplish little other than creating another layer of red tape while not addressing the issue that the regulation was spoked to be aimed at, meanwhile, our infrastructure is collapsing, our schools are all but useless, the environment is slowly dying, healthcare is a disaster, our culture is becoming this weird mix of redneck/hip hop/reality star/celebritard/cruddy miasma that is kinda scummy and unpleasant to look at. We are definitely devolving as a species at the base level. All of our efforts seem to be solely directed at the comfort, pleasure, and entertainment of the moment. There are no really great efforts out there that are inspiring and pushing our species forward into the next level of being. Instead, our great achievements are thinner phones, faster computers that can run better games, md other esoteric bullshit like that.
Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spary, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
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You're watching way too much media on your Macs and stupid shows and movies on Netflix, dung dealer.death dealer wrote:I don't actually own a television. We do have Macs and a netflix subscription. But, fail again dumbo.D1B wrote:
You're watching way too much TV.
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Wow, do you honestly think life in those three countries is shitty? Have you even left the Midwest?MSUDuo wrote:What's living longer worth if you're living like s#!t?houndawg wrote:
Belgium-Germany-France also all have longer life expectancy than the US.
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They don't have college football.Grizalltheway wrote:Wow, do you honestly think life in those three countries is shitty? Have you even left the Midwest?MSUDuo wrote: What's living longer worth if you're living like s#!t?![]()
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France: losers in all warsGrizalltheway wrote:Wow, do you honestly think life in those three countries is shitty? Have you even left the Midwest?MSUDuo wrote: What's living longer worth if you're living like s#!t?![]()
Germany: Nazi's...also losers in wars
Belgium: Beer....and....well, they have beer
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You should really give Nazism a try before you bash it so callously.grizzaholic wrote:France: losers in all warsGrizalltheway wrote:
Wow, do you honestly think life in those three countries is shitty? Have you even left the Midwest?![]()
Germany: Nazi's...also losers in wars
Belgium: Beer....and....well, they have beer
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I did, and then after listening to your spiel it lost most of it's luster.Grizalltheway wrote:You should really give Nazism a try before you bash it so callously.grizzaholic wrote:
France: losers in all wars
Germany: Nazi's...also losers in wars
Belgium: Beer....and....well, they have beer
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Blas mir.grizzaholic wrote:I did, and then after listening to your spiel it lost most of it's luster.Grizalltheway wrote:
You should really give Nazism a try before you bash it so callously.
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Perhaps if your argument was more vocal.Grizalltheway wrote:Blas mir.grizzaholic wrote:
I did, and then after listening to your spiel it lost most of it's luster.
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
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Does responding to this make me a part of the problem?
You just made me feel compelled to go plant a garden, fly fish, hike.
Thanks!

I wouldn't mind paying more in taxes if I got more in return. But from my standpoint, the federal govt is just a big pain in my ass. They send my friends kids, spouses, fathers, and mothers off to fight stupid wars, they spend mega bucks keeping stupid genetically inferior people alive and well fed so that they can breed even more knuckle dragging morons, they pass regulations that accomplish little other than creating another layer of red tape while not addressing the issue that the regulation was spoked to be aimed at, meanwhile, our infrastructure is collapsing, our schools are all but useless, the environment is slowly dying, healthcare is a disaster, our culture is becoming this weird mix of redneck/hip hop/reality star/celebritard/cruddy miasma that is kinda scummy and unpleasant to look at. We are definitely devolving as a species at the base level. All of our efforts seem to be solely directed at the comfort, pleasure, and entertainment of the moment. There are no really great efforts out there that are inspiring and pushing our species forward into the next level of being. Instead, our great achievements are thinner phones, faster computers that can run better games, md other esoteric bullshit like that.[/quote][/quote]quote="death dealer"]houndawg wrote:
Belgium-Germany-France also all have longer life expectancy than the US.
Does responding to this make me a part of the problem?
You just made me feel compelled to go plant a garden, fly fish, hike.
Thanks!
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You're either in or you're out. Don't waste my time, I have peoples to eliminate.grizzaholic wrote:Perhaps if your argument was more vocal.Grizalltheway wrote:
Blas mir.
Re: Stock Market Down 441 Last 2 Days
Factor in tax compliance costs and try again.houndawg wrote:Congressional Research Service says the effective corporate tax rate for the US is 27.1%, as opposed to the other OECD countries average of 27.7%.
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Pretty sure Danefan debunked your idea here. The difference in compliance costs wasn't enough to catch up to the lower effective rate American companies pay.Baldy wrote:Factor in tax compliance costs and try again.houndawg wrote:Congressional Research Service says the effective corporate tax rate for the US is 27.1%, as opposed to the other OECD countries average of 27.7%.
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Sorry, don't think so...kalm wrote:Pretty sure Danefan debunked your idea here. The difference in compliance costs wasn't enough to catch up to the lower effective rate American companies pay.Baldy wrote: Factor in tax compliance costs and try again.
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Try again.Baldy wrote:Sorry, don't think so...kalm wrote:
Pretty sure Danefan debunked your idea here. The difference in compliance costs wasn't enough to catch up to the lower effective rate American companies pay.
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No need.kalm wrote:Try again.Baldy wrote: Sorry, don't think so...
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Yeah, I'm sure you know a lot more about this than the corporate tax attorney.Baldy wrote:No need.kalm wrote:
Try again.
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Indeed...been there done that.Baldy wrote:No need.kalm wrote:
Try again.
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Didn't say that, but I answer questions from tax attorneys and CPA's every day.Grizalltheway wrote:Yeah, I'm sure you know a lot more about this than the corporate tax attorney.Baldy wrote: No need.![]()




