Post here if you voted for Gary Johnson

[death dealer]

I voted for him, joining my friend c-grad and out-conking DD and Chizzy I will have you know!

You Conkerupukiclan!!!

[ASUMountaineer]

It was a hypothetical question. Are you intentionally being dense today?

We have a disconnect somewhere. You've clearly implied twice now that because Johnson didn't get more votes, that proves Republicans hate conservatives. Is that not what you meant to say?

I answered kalm's question and offered a reason (GOP'ers despising convervatism) as to why Republicans may have just stayed home.

To answer your question...Nope. The fact that Republicans nominated a self-described and proven "progressive" is enough evidence to show that Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism. You can also look at the GOP's policies since 2000. Would you like me to list them again?

[89Hen]

We have a disconnect somewhere. You've clearly implied twice now that because Johnson didn't get more votes, that proves Republicans hate conservatives. Is that not what you meant to say?

I answered kalm's question and offered a reason (GOP'ers despising convervatism) as to why Republicans may have just stayed home.

To answer your question...Nope. The fact that Republicans nominated a self-described and proven "progressive" is enough evidence to show that Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism. You can also look at the GOP's policies since 2000. Would you like me to list them again?

So then say that Gary Johnson has nothing to do with your claim that "Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism"... or you can admit you like crepes.

[ASUMountaineer]

I answered kalm's question and offered a reason (GOP'ers despising convervatism) as to why Republicans may have just stayed home.

To answer your question...Nope. The fact that Republicans nominated a self-described and proven "progressive" is enough evidence to show that Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism. You can also look at the GOP's policies since 2000. Would you like me to list them again?

So then say that Gary Johnson has nothing to do with your claim that "Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism"... or you can admit you like crepes.

Some of my ancestors did emigrate from France back in the 1600's. Damn!

Check my explanation on the other thread. It should clear up any lingering confusion.

[Ibanez]

I answered kalm's question and offered a reason (GOP'ers despising convervatism) as to why Republicans may have just stayed home.

To answer your question...Nope. The fact that Republicans nominated a self-described and proven "progressive" is enough evidence to show that Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism. You can also look at the GOP's policies since 2000. Would you like me to list them again?

So then say that Gary Johnson has nothing to do with your claim that "Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism"... or you can admit you like crepes.

You mean those flat, little pancakes? I love those things. Hey, lets go get some crepes after this.

[89Hen]

So then say that Gary Johnson has nothing to do with your claim that "Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism"... or you can admit you like crepes.

Some of my ancestors did emigrate from France back in the 1600's. Damn!

Check my explanation on the other thread. It should clear up any lingering confusion.

Two threads for one issue are hard to manage.

[TheDancinMonarch]

Not for Johnson but my vote did stand out in my Norfolk precinct.

201 - OLD DOMINION

REP Mitt Romney 1,091 36.09%
DEM Barack Obama 1,878 62.12%
CON Virgil Goode 1 0.03%
LIB Gary Johnson 43 1.42%
GRN Jill Stein 6 0.20%
Write In 4 0.13%

Total Votes 3,023

[AZGrizFan]

Not for Johnson but my vote did stand out in my Norfolk precinct.

201 - OLD DOMINION

REP Mitt Romney 1,091 36.09%
DEM Barack Obama 1,878 62.12%
CON Virgil Goode 1 0.03%
LIB Gary Johnson 43 1.42%
GRN Jill Stein 6 0.20%
Write In 4 0.13%

Total Votes 3,023

That is AWESOME!!

[UNI88]

I answered kalm's question and offered a reason (GOP'ers despising convervatism) as to why Republicans may have just stayed home.

To answer your question...Nope. The fact that Republicans nominated a self-described and proven "progressive" is enough evidence to show that Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism. You can also look at the GOP's policies since 2000. Would you like me to list them again?

So then say that Gary Johnson has nothing to do with your claim that "Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism"... or you can admit you like crepes.

I believe he means that if Johnson had been the Republican nominee many in the party base would have stayed home rather than voting for him because Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism.

And Norwegians call them lefse.

[UNI88]

And I voted for GJ!

[89Hen]

I believe he means that if Johnson had been the Republican nominee many in the party base would have stayed home rather than voting for him because Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism.

That's a non-defensible position, but I don't think that's what he meant, and I don't think that's even true.

[GSUhooligan]

He's definitely a better steward of other people's money.

Obama spent $14.13 per vote ($852.9m/60,333264 votes)
Romney spent $13.07 per vote ($752.3m/ 57547667 votes)
Johnson spent .99 cents per vote. ($1,124,080/1,139,562 votes)

[89Hen]

He's definitely a better steward of other people's money.

Obama spent $14.13 per vote ($852.9m/60,333264 votes)
Romney spent $13.07 per vote ($752.3m/ 57547667 votes)
Johnson spent .99 cents per vote. ($1,124,080/1,139,562 votes)

Obama won, Romney came close, Johnson... well, he made ASUM feel good.

[Ibanez]

He's definitely a better steward of other people's money.

Obama spent $14.13 per vote ($852.9m/60,333264 votes)
Romney spent $13.07 per vote ($752.3m/ 57547667 votes)
Johnson spent .99 cents per vote. ($1,124,080/1,139,562 votes)

Obama won, Romney came close, Johnson... well, he made ASUM feel good.

Contrary to all those rabid Republicans at my office and on Facebook that are disappointed in America, Democracy worked.

[ASUMountaineer]

I believe he means that if Johnson had been the Republican nominee many in the party base would have stayed home rather than voting for him because Republicans despise conservatives/conservatism.

That's a non-defensible position, but I don't think that's what he meant, and I don't think that's even true.

Basically, I offered two options to answer kalm's hypothetical: 1) if GJ had been the nominee then GOP'ers would have still come out, even though they disagree with his vision, to vote against Obama--or, 2) if GJ had been the nominee then some GOP'ers may have stayed home because they disagreed with his vision. I don't know that either would have happened, and I stated as such. It was a hypothetical, so I simply offered two possible options to answer kalm's question.

[ASUMountaineer]

He's definitely a better steward of other people's money.

Obama spent $14.13 per vote ($852.9m/60,333264 votes)
Romney spent $13.07 per vote ($752.3m/ 57547667 votes)
Johnson spent .99 cents per vote. ($1,124,080/1,139,562 votes)

Obama won, Romney came close, Johnson... well, he made ASUM feel good.

Really? Now who's being obtuse?

One day I may value a letter more than policies/stances, but not yet. Johnson gave me a clear vision that differs from the status quo.

[89Hen]

It was a hypothetical, so I simply offered two possible options to answer kalm's question.

But you kept going.

That's a good question. He might still have lost. The Republican base would have either still turned out to vote against Obama or would have just stayed home. I asked 89hen in another thread why this was the case, but it's clear that Republicans despise conservatives.

There is no other way to read this than you either believe Republicans would not have turned out, or that you believe I think they would not have turned out. I can tell you that the latter is not the case. Had Johnson been the R nominee, he very well may have done better than Romney. I would have voted for him.

[89Hen]

One day I may value a letter more than policies/stances, but not yet. Johnson gave me a clear vision that differs from the status quo.

Careful on the dismount.

[ASUMountaineer]

It was a hypothetical, so I simply offered two possible options to answer kalm's question.

But you kept going.

That's a good question. He might still have lost. The Republican base would have either still turned out to vote against Obama or would have just stayed home. I asked 89hen in another thread why this was the case, but it's clear that Republicans despise conservatives.

There is no other way to read this than you either believe Republicans would not have turned out, or that you believe I think they would not have turned out. I can tell you that the latter is not the case. Had Johnson been the R nominee, he very well may have done better than Romney. I would have voted for him.

Wow. You are being intentionally dense today. Clearly I offered two options to the hypothetical question.

Unfortunately, there is another way to look at this. I offered two options, and then qualified the second option with a potential reason that Republicans might would just stay home is because they despise conservatives. I mentioned that I asked you why Republicans despise conservatives in another thread just to drive home that point.

I understand if you're itching to argue for the sake of arguing. But, you're reaching now.

[ASUMountaineer]

One day I may value a letter more than policies/stances, but not yet. Johnson gave me a clear vision that differs from the status quo.

Careful on the dismount.

I have been consistent with that point for months, but it's cool. In 2016 there will be another candidate with an R beside their name and you'll undoubtedly vote for that person. Who knows, maybe I will too.

[89Hen]

But you kept going.

There is no other way to read this than you either believe Republicans would not have turned out, or that you believe I think they would not have turned out. I can tell you that the latter is not the case. Had Johnson been the R nominee, he very well may have done better than Romney. I would have voted for him.

Wow. You are being intentionally dense today. Clearly I offered two options to the hypothetical question.

Unfortunately, there is another way to look at this. I offered two options, and then qualified the second option with a potential reason that Republicans might would just stay home is because they despise conservatives. I mentioned that I asked you why Republicans despise conservatives in another thread just to drive home that point.

I understand if you're itching to argue for the sake of arguing. But, you're reaching now.

You've said over and over and over that you think Republicans hate conservatives because they didn't vote for Gary Johnson. That is a ridiculous statement.

[89Hen]

One day I may value a letter more than policies/stances, but not yet.

BTW, you don't think that's a pompous statement?

[ASUMountaineer]

One day I may value a letter more than policies/stances, but not yet.

BTW, you don't think that's a pompous statement?

No more than telling someone they wasted their vote.

[ASUMountaineer]

Wow. You are being intentionally dense today. Clearly I offered two options to the hypothetical question.

Unfortunately, there is another way to look at this. I offered two options, and then qualified the second option with a potential reason that Republicans might would just stay home is because they despise conservatives. I mentioned that I asked you why Republicans despise conservatives in another thread just to drive home that point.

I understand if you're itching to argue for the sake of arguing. But, you're reaching now.

You've said over and over and over that you think Republicans hate conservatives because they didn't vote for Gary Johnson. That is a ridiculous statement.

I said over and over that they despise conservatism because they nominated a self-described and proven "progressive" and that their actions since 2000 prove they despise conservatism. The fact that they would not vote for a candidate like Gary Johnson (or any candidate with similar policies/stances) were he in the R primaries just helps further the point.

To argue that the GOP supports conservatism is just as ridiculous of a statement.

[89Hen]

I said over and over that they despise conservatism because they nominated a self-described and proven "progressive" and that their actions since 2000 prove they despise conservatism. The fact that they would not vote for a candidate like Gary Johnson (or any candidate with similar policies/stances) were he in the R primaries just helps further the point.

Good grief, I don't want to relive the whole thing again, but this post is exactly what got me going in the first place. You make one comment that is fine, but then follow it up with a "fact" that's not even approaching a fact and does further your point that I was arguing against.

Because they didn't vote for Ron Paul doesn't prove squat. For every good idea he had, he had a cooky one.