CS.Com Election 2012

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Who are you voting for?

Barack Obama
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30%
Mitt Romney
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26%
Gary Johnson
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30%
Jill Stein
2
4%
Virgil Goode
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2%
Rosanne Barr
1
2%
Ron Paul Write-In
1
2%
Undecided
1
2%
 
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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
This is true...
But the Democrats pretend it's only the Evil Republicans who are influenced by Wall Street
When BOTH Parties are on their knees blowing the same master
The conks can't complain too much about campaign finance as big monied interest has been a core value for much longer than the Dems. And yes, both parties do it, and you can certainly make a case that the dems are more hypocritical...oh and yes, Ivy, you are correct about the piroutte. :nod:
Is that just opinion? Can you substantiate that in any way other than opinion? How long have unions been giving big time to Dems? Plenty of monied interest there. Heck, I love Harry Truman but even I have to admit he got his Senate seat thanks to Pendergast and his "monied interest" political machine that was identical to numerous other Democratic political machines that had been in operation well before the 30's. Your post seems to imply that Democrats have only just recently woken up to the reality of money and the part it plays in politics. When in reality both parties have been well acquainted with politics and money since, well, as soon as it became clear Washington wasn't going for a 3rd term. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
Bronco wrote:
One of the main reasons I will not be voting Democrat and proof positive of some of Wall Street's ROI. :nod:
And all this time I thought the Trilateral Commission ran the show. Gotta send a letter of apology to David Rockefeller STAT. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
The conks can't complain too much about campaign finance as big monied interest has been a core value for much longer than the Dems. And yes, both parties do it, and you can certainly make a case that the dems are more hypocritical...oh and yes, Ivy, you are correct about the piroutte. :nod:
Is that just opinion? Can you substantiate that in any way other than opinion? How long have unions been giving big time to Dems? Plenty of monied interest there. Heck, I love Harry Truman but even I have to admit he got his Senate seat thanks to Pendergast and his "monied interest" political machine that was identical to numerous other Democratic political machines that had been in operation well before the 30's. Your post seems to imply that Democrats have only just recently woken up to the reality of money and the part it plays in politics. When in reality both parties have been well acquainted with politics and money since, well, as soon as it became clear Washington wasn't going for a 3rd term. :coffee:
Pretty sure I've conceded the union point several times before. This discussion has been about a different kind of monied interest that both parties have pandered to and which is now much more powerful than unions both from an access standpoint and a money standpoint. And unions have not been around nearly as long as big money and have been declining for decades. That's why the Democrats started courting Wall Street. I'd be fine with limiting their money too.
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
One of the main reasons I will not be voting Democrat and proof positive of some of Wall Street's ROI. :nod:
And all this time I thought the Trilateral Commission ran the show. Gotta send a letter of apology to David Rockefeller STAT. :coffee:
A bigger conspiracy theory would be that Wall Street donated billions and the favorable legislation, deregulation, and taxation were just a coincidence. :lol:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: And all this time I thought the Trilateral Commission ran the show. Gotta send a letter of apology to David Rockefeller STAT. :coffee:
A bigger conspiracy theory would be that Wall Street donated billions and the favorable legislation, deregulation, and taxation were just a coincidence. :lol:
And it's all coming to an end. Kalm, you're nothing if not consistent. :coffee:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
A bigger conspiracy theory would be that Wall Street donated billions and the favorable legislation, deregulation, and taxation were just a coincidence. :lol:
And it's all coming to an end. Kalm, you're nothing if not consistent. :coffee:
So you do think it's all a coincidence? :popcorn:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: And it's all coming to an end. Kalm, you're nothing if not consistent. :coffee:
So you do think it's all a coincidence? :popcorn:
Is Mark Lane your daddy? :coffee:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
So you do think it's all a coincidence? :popcorn:
Is Mark Lane your daddy? :coffee:
Who? :coffee:

But nice dodge. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Is Mark Lane your daddy? :coffee:
Who? :coffee:

But nice dodge. :coffee:
What's the boogie man? :evil: :twisted:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Who? :coffee:

But nice dodge. :coffee:
What's the boogie man? :evil: :twisted:
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WALL STREET PROSECUTIONS UNDER OBAMA: ZILCH
The Washington Times ^ | 08/20/12 | Jean-Claude Groulx

For all the bluster of Obama, pre- and post-2008, as well as that of Attorney General Eric Holder concerning the alleged criminal activities on Wall Street, there have been zero Wall Street prosecutions under Obama/Holder. Compare that with his predecessors Bush and Clinton:
Bush: 1,300 convictions; Clinton: 1,000 convictions; Obama: Zero attempts.

(Excerpt) Read more at times247.com ...
ZERO is a mighty big number. :nod:

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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: What's the boogie man? :evil: :twisted:
:?
You see a three-piece suit in every woodpile. A Master of the Universe in every voting booth. A zero-point-one per center in every NSC meeting. :ohno:

And it was a reference to Jamie Lee Curtis's last line from Halloween, you twit! :lol:
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I'm your boogie man that's what I am
I'm here to do whatever I can
Be it early mornin' late afternoon
Or at midnight it's never too soon
To wanna take you to wanna hold you
I wanna give my all, all to you
And I want you to completely understand
Just where I'm at that's where I am - oh yeah



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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
:?
You see a three-piece suit in every woodpile. A Master of the Universe in every voting booth. A zero-point-one per center in every NSC meeting. :ohno:

And it was a reference to Jamie Lee Curtis's last line from Halloween, you twit! :lol:
1) There are only two Jamie Lee Curtis scenes worth remembering and they are in Trading Places and True Lies. :nod:

2) You are still dodging the question you sychophantic slag! :mrgreen:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: You see a three-piece suit in every woodpile. A Master of the Universe in every voting booth. A zero-point-one per center in every NSC meeting. :ohno:

And it was a reference to Jamie Lee Curtis's last line from Halloween, you twit! :lol:
1) There are only two Jamie Lee Curtis scenes worth remembering and they are in Trading Places and True Lies. :nod:

2) You are still dodging the question you sychophantic slag! :mrgreen:
It's just Congress responding to its constituents, you tired old harridan! 8-) You haven't answered my question about why, if Wall Street is so bright and powerful, it is magically able to rotate two-term presidencies between the makers and the takers.
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
1) There are only two Jamie Lee Curtis scenes worth remembering and they are in Trading Places and True Lies. :nod:

2) You are still dodging the question you sychophantic slag! :mrgreen:
It's just Congress responding to its constituents, you tired old harridan! 8-) You haven't answered my question about why, if Wall Street is so bright and powerful, it is magically able to rotate two-term presidencies between the makers and the takers.
I already answered that question you sexagenarian simpleton. WS backed Obama over McCain, is backing Romney over Obama, and probably backed Clinton over Dole considering they spent $5 billion in campaign donations over all to get Graham-Leach-Bliley and the CFTA passed. But they gave heavily to both sides...hedging their bets just in case. They've got both sides feeding out of their hands - see Dodd and Frank. But thank you for admitting who congresses constituents are. :thumb:

(BTW, I had to look up harridan :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: )
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: It's just Congress responding to its constituents, you tired old harridan! 8-) You haven't answered my question about why, if Wall Street is so bright and powerful, it is magically able to rotate two-term presidencies between the makers and the takers.
I already answered that question you sexagenarian simpleton. WS backed Obama over McCain, is backing Romney over Obama, and probably backed Clinton over Dole considering they spent $5 billion in campaign donations over all to get Graham-Leach-Bliley and the CFTA passed. But they gave heavily to both sides...hedging their bets just in case. They've got both sides feeding out of their hands - see Dodd and Frank. But thank you for admitting who congresses constituents are. :thumb:

(BTW, I had to look up harridan :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: )
Probably? PROBABLY?? And give me a link to a source that says WS money is backing Mitt over Obummer. Are you saying Barry hoodwinked the great and powerful WS so badly that they switched horses in midstream, giving the lie to your answer to my "two-term flip" question? Talk about changing the facts to fit a talking point, you washed-up old trollop! :mrgreen:

And I'm not a sexagenarian yet, you moistened bint! :mrgreen:
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I'm writing in Ron Swanson.
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