Obama vs. Romney Official Game Thread.

Post by **kalm** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:30 pm

It's the no ideas/full of platitudes summit! Whoot!

∞∞∞ · Post by **∞∞∞** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:35 pm

So far, it's just your run-of-the-mill left/right talking points.

Post by **ASUG8** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:37 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:So far, it's just your run-of-the-mill left/right talking points.

To a point, but I'm seeing a lot more common ground than I expected. Romney is holding his own so far vs. the great orator.

∞∞∞ · Post by **∞∞∞** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:38 pm

ASUG8 wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:So far, it's just your run-of-the-mill left/right talking points.
To a point, but I'm seeing a lot more common ground than I expected.

Two sides of the same coin...

Agree that Romney is doing well though.

Post by **ASUG8** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:41 pm

How old is Jim Lehrer anyway? He's in danger of losing control of this debate with the overages both candidates are exhibiting.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:56 pm

ASUG8 wrote:How old is Jim Lehrer anyway? He's in danger of losing control of this debate with the overages both candidates are exhibiting.

That's what happens when two egomaniacs go at it.

FargoBison · Post by **FargoBison** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:22 pm

I can't believe it but Romney is winning this debate and by a decent margin. Obama is having a difficult time explaining and defending his record and it seems like every solution he has is more government.

Post by **kalm** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:24 pm

FargoBison wrote:I can't believe it but Romney is winning this debate and by a decent margin.

Yes...he believes in everything!

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:26 pm

kalm wrote:
FargoBison wrote:I can't believe it but Romney is winning this debate and by a decent margin.
Yes...he believes in everything!

Commie

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:30 pm

ASUG8 wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:So far, it's just your run-of-the-mill left/right talking points.
To a point, but I'm seeing a lot more common ground than I expected. Romney is holding his own so far vs. the great orator.

That's because the great orator doesn't have a teleprompter.

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:38 pm

Honestly thought Romney won that. Was a pretty good debate and more interesting than the Kerry-Bush or Obama-McCain debates I remember. Romney attacked Obama and Obama never really went after Romney... just played defense the whole time. Not a gamechanger, imo... but, Romney won.

Post by **danefan** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:45 pm

Romney was solid, but didn't really offer anything new.

Obama was on the defensive all night, but isn't that the nature of debating as an incumbent?

The problem I have with Romney is that I don't really believe that he truly believes everything he says. Most times he seemed to me that he was regurgitating party talking points. If you agree with those points then you aren't going to vote Dem anyway. If you don't have a particular opinion either way, I don't think Romney is doing anything to sway you in that direction.

Whether you like the positions Obama takes or not, I'm not sure anyone can argue that he doesn't genuinely believe in them.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:02 pm

Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon
Goin' to the candidates' debate
Laugh about it, shout about it
When you've got to choose
Every way you look at it you lose

Bronco · Post by **Bronco** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:08 pm

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Happy Mitt brought up Solyndra and BHO''s buddies benefiting at taxpayers expense
I read today that 60% of the country has never heard of Solyndra.

The closing statements were very bad for BHO..I thought he was going to cry

Hope there was a large audience tonight

FargoBison · Post by **FargoBison** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:26 pm

CNN poll: 67-25 Romney won the debate.

Trapped in CA · Post by **Trapped in CA** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:35 pm

Holy crap, thought president Obama wanted this job. It looked like he was saying "vote for me because I already have the job."

That was a first round effort worthy of an OVC playoff team.

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GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:37 pm

Just on style, no doubt Romney had the better of the night. He just looked very confident and very smooth out there, and he seemed to have a good command of what he was talking about, especially with the purely economic points. Obama just looked flustered at times and seemed like he had to reach for information. I can't recall if Obama was this lackluster of a debater in the past election or if he just looked so good compared to the disaster that McCain was.

With that said, partisans on either sides will see what they want to see. But Romney needs to act like this and seem animated like he did tonight - he's looked like a cardboard version of tonight for far too long on his campaign. Romney can't win if he continues to campaign like he has - but if he can project the kind of charisma he had tonight, he could make this interesting. I wouldn't bet money he could do that, but it's certainly possible.

Seahawks08 · Post by **Seahawks08** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:41 pm

Happy Mitt brought up Solyndra and BHO''s buddies benefiting at taxpayers expense
I read today that 60% of the country has never heard of Solyndra.

The closing statements were very bad for BHO..I thought he was going to cry

Hope there was a large audience tonight

I've been waiting for you to show up. Now this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE3ddJbIlpg[/youtube]

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:43 pm

danefan wrote:Romney was solid, but didn't really offer anything new.

Obama was on the defensive all night, but isn't that the nature of debating as an incumbent?

The problem I have with Romney is that I don't really believe that he truly believes everything he says. Most times he seemed to me that he was regurgitating party talking points. If you agree with those points then you aren't going to vote Dem anyway. If you don't have a particular opinion either way, I don't think Romney is doing anything to sway you in that direction.

Whether you like the positions Obama takes or not, I'm not sure anyone can argue that he doesn't genuinely believe in them.

What are you saying? English man!

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:55 pm

Romney 1, Obummer nil

Post by **SDHornet** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:09 pm

I thought Romney could have poured it on a little more. I agree he won this one, but this economics stuff is his wheelhouse and it definitely showed. He almost screwed the pouch when it looked like he was going to go all "God and Country" on everyone. He still didn't sway me off of my Gary Johnson perch.

CitadelGrad · Post by **CitadelGrad** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:12 pm

Obama looked like he didn't want to be there or thought he shouldn't have to be there.

Seahawks08 · Post by **Seahawks08** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:19 pm

It was quite obvious when he didn't use the 47% remark against Romney that he's saving everything for the next two debates. Obama didn't care about this and just tried not to screw anything up. Debate went by quick though. No commercials, 90 minutes. Damn why can't everything be like that?!

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:25 pm

Seahawks08 wrote:It was quite obvious when he didn't use the 47% remark against Romney that he's saving everything for the next two debates. Obama didn't care about this and just tried not to screw anything up. Debate went by quick though. No commercials, 90 minutes. Damn why can't everything be like that?!

The out of context 47% comment isn't going to matter. Obama is going to have to defend his record in these debates and he has nothing to defend.

Post by **DSUrocks07** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:32 pm

Seahawks08 wrote:It was quite obvious when he didn't use the 47% remark against Romney that he's saving everything for the next two debates. Obama didn't care about this and just tried not to screw anything up. Debate went by quick though. No commercials, 90 minutes. Damn why can't everything be like that?!

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