Religion......

[Seahawks08]

Religious goal for me? Trying to receive God's grace.

Almost anything that we encounter during our lives could be considered "brainwashing". Anything.

Brainwashing part is true, but I would rather be brainwashed with rational thought by the sciences than by organized religion.

[Chizzang]

Religious goal for me? Trying to receive God's grace.

Almost anything that we encounter during our lives could be considered "brainwashing". Anything.

Brainwashing part is true, but I would rather be brainwashed with rational thought by the sciences than by organized religion.

So much of what was believed only 200 years ago (never mind 2000 years) is utter bullshit and complete nonsense...
This world begs for an updated interpretation of God / a version that INCLUDES what we know today
A definition of God that accepts scientific knowledge - Not one that excludes and denies the obvious



Why not..?
Can Any Christian answer that: Why not..?

[houndawg]

Profits.

[CAA Flagship]

Religious goal for me? Trying to receive God's grace.

Almost anything that we encounter during our lives could be considered "brainwashing". Anything.

Brainwashing part is true, but I would rather be brainwashed with rational thought by the sciences than by organized religion.

Wait. Who said that "rational thought by the sciences" is always correct? Scientific results are always being tweeked as more data is collected. At what point should a person believe the results to be the absolute truth? In addition, do you believe that all scientific results are not influenced by human bias?

[D1B]

Brainwashing part is true, but I would rather be brainwashed with rational thought by the sciences than by organized religion.

Wait. Who said that "rational thought by the sciences" is always correct? Scientific results are always being tweeked as more data is collected. At what point should a person believe the results to be the absolute truth? In addition, do you believe that all scientific results are not influenced by human bias?

The fact that science is only good science when it's rigorously criticized and tested and improved and works is the best thing about it and unlike religion, is the foundation of civilization.

You believe it's the truth when it works.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Religious goal for me? Trying to receive God's grace.

Almost anything that we encounter during our lives could be considered "brainwashing". Anything.

Brainwashing part is true, but I would rather be brainwashed with rational thought by the sciences than by organized religion.

That is what is great about this country we live in. People can have their own thoughts and opinions w/o the fear of being put in jail or killed.

I believe in science and what it proves. But religion is also a very important part of my life.

You do not believe in religion...that is fine. Religion must connect with some people.....

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Brainwashing part is true, but I would rather be brainwashed with rational thought by the sciences than by organized religion.

So much of what was believed only 200 years ago (never mind 2000 years) is utter bullshit and complete nonsense...
This world begs for an updated interpretation of God / a version that INCLUDES what we know today
A definition of God that accepts scientific knowledge - Not one that excludes and denies the obvious



Why not..?
Can Any Christian answer that: Why not..?

What Jesus said 2000 yrs ago applies to today also.

[D1B]

So much of what was believed only 200 years ago (never mind 2000 years) is utter bullshit and complete nonsense...
This world begs for an updated interpretation of God / a version that INCLUDES what we know today
A definition of God that accepts scientific knowledge - Not one that excludes and denies the obvious



Why not..?
Can Any Christian answer that: Why not..?

What Jesus said 2000 yrs ago applies to today also.

Like what?

*Please provide source

[Chizzang]

What Jesus said 2000 yrs ago applies to today also.

Everything that Jesus said that is still relevant was said 2000 years before he said it too...

[Seahawks08]

That is what is great about this country we live in. People can have their own thoughts and opinions w/o the fear of being put in jail or killed.

I believe in science and what it proves. But religion is also a very important part of my life.

You do not believe in religion...that is fine. Religion must connect with some people.....

lol religion connects with MANY people! And religion has some extremely important moral values. But wouldn't it be wiser to look for a second at the Bible (assuming you are Christian)? You sound like a very intelligent person, so why do you take it so literally? How can someone put so much faith into some random people who wrote passages 2000 years ago that would be laughed at if written today? I'm not an atheist, so I can accept the concept of a higher being. It's just the concept of organized religion, because it creates problems for certain groups based on some lines written in a book.

[CAA Flagship]

Wait. Who said that "rational thought by the sciences" is always correct? Scientific results are always being tweeked as more data is collected. At what point should a person believe the results to be the absolute truth? In addition, do you believe that all scientific results are not influenced by human bias?

The fact that science is only good science when it's rigorously criticized and tested and improved and works is the best thing about it and unlike religion, is the foundation of civilization.

You believe it's the truth when it works.

I believed Pluto was a planet since 3rd grade. That is until 2006. How many other "beliefs" based on science have yet to be proven wrong?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

What Jesus said 2000 yrs ago applies to today also.

Like what?

*Please provide source

Jesus' Sermon on the Mount.

It is contained in chapters 5,6,7 in Matthew.

If you believe in Jesus and what he stood for then this is the cornerstone of your Christian belief.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

That is what is great about this country we live in. People can have their own thoughts and opinions w/o the fear of being put in jail or killed.

I believe in science and what it proves. But religion is also a very important part of my life.

You do not believe in religion...that is fine. Religion must connect with some people.....

lol religion connects with MANY people! And religion has some extremely important moral values. But wouldn't it be wiser to look for a second at the Bible (assuming you are Christian)? You sound like a very intelligent person, so why do you take it so literally? How can someone put so much faith into some random people who wrote passages 2000 years ago that would be laughed at if written today? I'm not an atheist, so I can accept the concept of a higher being. It's just the concept of organized religion, because it creates problems for certain groups based on some lines written in a book.

I do not take everything in the Bible literally. Some parts were written decades after events supposedly happened. I'm sure many stories were embellished. For instance, the Flood. Science has proven that there is not enough water to completely cover the surface of the earth. IMO, this story was probably passed down in stories told to people from generation to generation. It was probably the filling of the Black Sea, which was a large lake before the Mediterranean crashed into it. One of the 'Cradles of Civilization' was in the Mesopotamia. Now is it possible that this filling was the inspiration of the Flood story....maybe. I could go on.

My point is that Jesus was a man that did exist roughly 2K yrs ago and what he said is something that I believe in. Someday I believe I will meet him. You might think this is all fantasy but that is OK, you are entitled to your opinion. But people that believe in him are not lesser people because of that belief. From reading comments about religion on here attacking religion or people that believe in religion, makes me wonder what some of these people actually believe.

[D1B]

Like what?

*Please provide source

Jesus' Sermon on the Mount.

It is contained in chapters 5,6,7 in Matthew.

If you believe in Jesus and what he stood for then this is the cornerstone of your Christian belief.

What specifically did he say that inspires you?

[D1B]

lol religion connects with MANY people! And religion has some extremely important moral values. But wouldn't it be wiser to look for a second at the Bible (assuming you are Christian)? You sound like a very intelligent person, so why do you take it so literally? How can someone put so much faith into some random people who wrote passages 2000 years ago that would be laughed at if written today? I'm not an atheist, so I can accept the concept of a higher being. It's just the concept of organized religion, because it creates problems for certain groups based on some lines written in a book.

I do not take everything in the Bible literally. Some parts were written decades after events supposedly happened. I'm sure many stories were embellished. For instance, the Flood. Science has proven that there is not enough water to completely cover the surface of the earth. IMO, this story was probably passed down in stories told to people from generation to generation. It was probably the filling of the Black Sea, which was a large lake before the Mediterranean crashed into it. One of the 'Cradles of Civilization' was in the Mesopotamia. Now is it possible that this filling was the inspiration of the Flood story....maybe. I could go on.

My point is that Jesus was a man that did exist roughly 2K yrs ago and what he said is something that I believe in. Someday I believe I will meet him. You might think this is all fantasy but that is OK, you are entitled to your opinion. But people that believe in him are not lesser people because of that belief. From reading comments about religion on here attacking religion or people that believe in religion, makes me wonder what some of these people actually believe.

In a sense you are lesser people. Your belief in the great myth and any profiteer who bleats biblical nonsense in public, causes you to focus resources away from your own or children's welfare.

[Ibanez]

lol religion connects with MANY people! And religion has some extremely important moral values. But wouldn't it be wiser to look for a second at the Bible (assuming you are Christian)? You sound like a very intelligent person, so why do you take it so literally? How can someone put so much faith into some random people who wrote passages 2000 years ago that would be laughed at if written today? I'm not an atheist, so I can accept the concept of a higher being. It's just the concept of organized religion, because it creates problems for certain groups based on some lines written in a book.

I do not take everything in the Bible literally. Some parts were written decades after events supposedly happened. I'm sure many stories were embellished. For instance, the Flood. Science has proven that there is not enough water to completely cover the surface of the earth. IMO, this story was probably passed down in stories told to people from generation to generation. It was probably the filling of the Black Sea, which was a large lake before the Mediterranean crashed into it. One of the 'Cradles of Civilization' was in the Mesopotamia. Now is it possible that this filling was the inspiration of the Flood story....maybe. I could go on.

My point is that Jesus was a man that did exist roughly 2K yrs ago and what he said is something that I believe in. Someday I believe I will meet him. You might think this is all fantasy but that is OK, you are entitled to your opinion. But people that believe in him are not lesser people because of that belief. From reading comments about religion on here attacking religion or people that believe in religion, makes me wonder what some of these people actually believe.

The great flood is from the Tigris and Euphrates flooding the area. A natural occurance that couldn't be understood so it was attributed to God.

THe Parting of the Red Sea- they crossed over a submerged land bridge. Of course, they exaggerated the story.

The plagues of Egypt occurred naturally.

Of course, these early people attributed all of this to God, they had no knowledge of science.

[Cap'n Cat]

[Cap'n Cat]

lol religion connects with MANY people! And religion has some extremely important moral values. But wouldn't it be wiser to look for a second at the Bible (assuming you are Christian)? You sound like a very intelligent person, so why do you take it so literally? How can someone put so much faith into some random people who wrote passages 2000 years ago that would be laughed at if written today? I'm not an atheist, so I can accept the concept of a higher being. It's just the concept of organized religion, because it creates problems for certain groups based on some lines written in a book.

I do not take everything in the Bible literally. Some parts were written decades after events supposedly happened. I'm sure many stories were embellished. For instance, the Flood. Science has proven that there is not enough water to completely cover the surface of the earth. IMO, this story was probably passed down in stories told to people from generation to generation. It was probably the filling of the Black Sea, which was a large lake before the Mediterranean crashed into it. One of the 'Cradles of Civilization' was in the Mesopotamia. Now is it possible that this filling was the inspiration of the Flood story....maybe. I could go on.

My point is that Jesus was a man that did exist roughly 2K yrs ago and what he said is something that I believe in. Someday I believe I will meet him. You might think this is all fantasy but that is OK, you are entitled to your opinion. But people that believe in him are not lesser people because of that belief. From reading comments about religion on here attacking religion or people that believe in religion, makes me wonder what some of these people actually believe.

You, sir, are a dumbfvck.

[houndawg]

lol religion connects with MANY people! And religion has some extremely important moral values. But wouldn't it be wiser to look for a second at the Bible (assuming you are Christian)? You sound like a very intelligent person, so why do you take it so literally? How can someone put so much faith into some random people who wrote passages 2000 years ago that would be laughed at if written today? I'm not an atheist, so I can accept the concept of a higher being. It's just the concept of organized religion, because it creates problems for certain groups based on some lines written in a book.

I do not take everything in the Bible literally. Some parts were written decades after events supposedly happened. I'm sure many stories were embellished. For instance, the Flood. Science has proven that there is not enough water to completely cover the surface of the earth. IMO, this story was probably passed down in stories told to people from generation to generation. It was probably the filling of the Black Sea, which was a large lake before the Mediterranean crashed into it. One of the 'Cradles of Civilization' was in the Mesopotamia. Now is it possible that this filling was the inspiration of the Flood story....maybe. I could go on.

My point is that Jesus was a man that did exist roughly 2K yrs ago and what he said is something that I believe in. Someday I believe I will meet him. You might think this is all fantasy but that is OK, you are entitled to your opinion. But people that believe in him are not lesser people because of that belief. From reading comments about religion on here attacking religion or people that believe in religion, makes me wonder what some of these people actually believe.

2K years ago the landscape was over run with those claiming to be the messiah. This guys claim got legs because it was picked up third hand and written down. Basically this is a recycled Egyptian sun god myth. Our next generation of telescopes should be powerful enough to pick him out on his way to heaven. We know that since he ascended bodily that he is constrained by the speed of light and therefore somewhere within 2000 light years of earth - he hasn't even left the galaxy yet.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I do not take everything in the Bible literally. Some parts were written decades after events supposedly happened. I'm sure many stories were embellished. For instance, the Flood. Science has proven that there is not enough water to completely cover the surface of the earth. IMO, this story was probably passed down in stories told to people from generation to generation. It was probably the filling of the Black Sea, which was a large lake before the Mediterranean crashed into it. One of the 'Cradles of Civilization' was in the Mesopotamia. Now is it possible that this filling was the inspiration of the Flood story....maybe. I could go on.

My point is that Jesus was a man that did exist roughly 2K yrs ago and what he said is something that I believe in. Someday I believe I will meet him. You might think this is all fantasy but that is OK, you are entitled to your opinion. But people that believe in him are not lesser people because of that belief. From reading comments about religion on here attacking religion or people that believe in religion, makes me wonder what some of these people actually believe.

You, sir, are a dumbfvck.

Reading the stuff you post on here and what you call others, I wouldn't be calling me that.

Look in the mirror....

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I do not take everything in the Bible literally. Some parts were written decades after events supposedly happened. I'm sure many stories were embellished. For instance, the Flood. Science has proven that there is not enough water to completely cover the surface of the earth. IMO, this story was probably passed down in stories told to people from generation to generation. It was probably the filling of the Black Sea, which was a large lake before the Mediterranean crashed into it. One of the 'Cradles of Civilization' was in the Mesopotamia. Now is it possible that this filling was the inspiration of the Flood story....maybe. I could go on.

My point is that Jesus was a man that did exist roughly 2K yrs ago and what he said is something that I believe in. Someday I believe I will meet him. You might think this is all fantasy but that is OK, you are entitled to your opinion. But people that believe in him are not lesser people because of that belief. From reading comments about religion on here attacking religion or people that believe in religion, makes me wonder what some of these people actually believe.

2K years ago the landscape was over run with those claiming to be the messiah. This guys claim got legs because it was picked up third hand and written down. Basically this is a recycled Egyptian sun god myth. Our next generation of telescopes should be powerful enough to pick him out on his way to heaven. We know that since he ascended bodily that he is constrained by the speed of light and therefore somewhere within 2000 light years of earth - he hasn't even left the galaxy yet.

Really?

Who else?

Islam wasn't around yet.
Buddhism and Hinduism were not in the region.

Interesting belief you have about this.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I do not take everything in the Bible literally. Some parts were written decades after events supposedly happened. I'm sure many stories were embellished. For instance, the Flood. Science has proven that there is not enough water to completely cover the surface of the earth. IMO, this story was probably passed down in stories told to people from generation to generation. It was probably the filling of the Black Sea, which was a large lake before the Mediterranean crashed into it. One of the 'Cradles of Civilization' was in the Mesopotamia. Now is it possible that this filling was the inspiration of the Flood story....maybe. I could go on.

My point is that Jesus was a man that did exist roughly 2K yrs ago and what he said is something that I believe in. Someday I believe I will meet him. You might think this is all fantasy but that is OK, you are entitled to your opinion. But people that believe in him are not lesser people because of that belief. From reading comments about religion on here attacking religion or people that believe in religion, makes me wonder what some of these people actually believe.

In a sense you are lesser people. Your belief in the great myth and any profiteer who bleats biblical nonsense in public, causes you to focus resources away from your own or children's welfare.

Really?

I am a lesser person because I hold religion with high value in my life.......

How do I.....'focus resources away from myself and my children?' I think I provide just fine for my family. My girls are 16 and I have their college paid for. I guess I'm a bad father in your book.....

[YoUDeeMan]

Really?

Who else?

Islam wasn't around yet.
Buddhism and Hinduism were not in the region.

Interesting belief you have about this.

Call me silly, but I think that that Asia was part of the Earth 2,000 years ago, so they were, indeed, part of the landscape. Just because Christians like to not include others in their little God Homecoming party doesn't mean others don't exist.

Funny sh*t when Catholics have to explain what happens to people who never had a chance to hear about God. Uhhhh....God still loves them, and I guess they'll have a "special place" in Heaven because God forgot that man hadn't invented TV and the internet back in Jesus' time. Just slipped his mind, I guess.

And the Jews were still around, no? How about Brian?

[Cap'n Cat]

You, sir, are a dumbfvck.

Reading the stuff you post on here and what you call others, I wouldn't be calling me that.

Look in the mirror....

Nice comeback, Oprah.

You are most likely the dumbest motherfvcker on this board, son. Go back to Bisonville and practice up for a few years.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Reading the stuff you post on here and what you call others, I wouldn't be calling me that.

Look in the mirror....

Nice comeback, Oprah.

You are most likely the dumbest motherfvcker on this board, son. Go back to Bisonville and practice up for a few years.

LOL....compared to you, a name-calling bigot!