Santorum: making PORN illegal is one of my goals

[Ibanez]

In this study that only used data from one subscription porn site..
And as noted, Utah has the highest percentage of 15-24 yr olds, so given that I'm only mildy surprised that they came out on top.

Actually I would have guessed Alaska, and they're listed at #2.
-I believe they have the highest percentage male to female ratio of any state.
-Look at their top industries (in no particular order)- oil & natural gas exploration & drilling, fishing, tourism, logging, mining, military..a lot of majority men roughneck industries.
-Nov-March most of the state is brutal cold with little sunlight. Got to have stuff to keep you entertained indoors.

8 of the top 10 porn consuming states are red and Utah also happens to be the #1 gay porn consuming state. Conks need to let their hair down a little, get down with their bad selfs. Santorum is jeopardizing the conservative closet gay porn vote.

How many of those states does Cap'n Cat visit? He might be skewing the results.

[BDKJMU]

In this study that only used data from one subscription porn site..
And as noted, Utah has the highest percentage of 15-24 yr olds, so given that I'm only mildy surprised that they came out on top.

Actually I would have guessed Alaska, and they're listed at #2.
-I believe they have the highest percentage male to female ratio of any state.
-Look at their top industries (in no particular order)- oil & natural gas exploration & drilling, fishing, tourism, logging, mining, military..a lot of majority men roughneck industries.
-Nov-March most of the state is brutal cold with little sunlight. Got to have stuff to keep you entertained indoors.

8 of the top 10 porn consuming states are red and Utah also happens to be the #1 gay porn consuming state. Conks need to let their hair down a little, get down with their bad selfs. Santorum is jeopardizing the conservative closet gay porn vote.

Link?

Firstly, if you happen to consume the most porn, then it wouldn't be surprising if you were the leader in most types of porn.

Secondly, if the Harvard study claims that, (I didn't see where it says that from the 2 links) again, they are using subscription data from only ONE porn site, so I'll take the entire study with a grain of salt.

For a more credible study, they should have analyzed subscription data from numerous porn sites. If they had, the results may have come out the same or nearly the same. Or they may have come out very different.

[BDKJMU]

Santorum is just pandering for votes. He knows that there is zero chance of porn becoming illegal for adults. Most presidential primary contenders have proposed things they know have zero or close to zero chance of becoming law. Obama did it to. This is much ado about nothing.

Pandering for WHAT votes???? He's already getting THOSE votes.

He's not getting even a majority of those votes:

Santorum and Gingrich Split Evangelical Vote in Southern Primaries

March 14, 2012

Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich finished in a virtual tie for first place among evangelical voters in both Alabama, where evangelicals comprised 75% of the electorate, and Mississippi, where evangelicals accounted for 80% of all GOP primary voters. Santorum was supported by 35% of evangelicals in both states compared to 32% for Gingrich, with Mitt Romney placing third.

Read the full report.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2220/rick-s ... ma-primary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[TwinTownBisonFan]

8 of the top 10 porn consuming states are red and Utah also happens to be the #1 gay porn consuming state. Conks need to let their hair down a little, get down with their bad selfs. Santorum is jeopardizing the conservative closet gay porn vote.

Link?

Firstly, if you happen to consume the most porn, then it wouldn't be surprising if you were the leader in most types of porn.

Secondly, if the Harvard study claims that, (I didn't see where it says that from the 2 links) again, they are using subscription data from only ONE porn site, so I'll take the entire study with a grain of salt.

For a more credible study, they should have analyzed subscription data from numerous porn sites. If they had, the results may have come out the same or nearly the same. Or they may have come out very different.

My takeaway from this is that Utah is filled with idiots who are actually paying for internet porn...

[BDKJMU]

Link?

Firstly, if you happen to consume the most porn, then it wouldn't be surprising if you were the leader in most types of porn.

Secondly, if the Harvard study claims that, (I didn't see where it says that from the 2 links) again, they are using subscription data from only ONE porn site, so I'll take the entire study with a grain of salt.

For a more credible study, they should have analyzed subscription data from numerous porn sites. If they had, the results may have come out the same or nearly the same. Or they may have come out very different.

My takeaway from this is that Utah is filled with idiots who are actually paying for internet porn...

My take is there's idiots that actually take this study with more than a grain of salt.

Again note that Utah has the highest % of 15-24 yr olds.
-If they'd broken down porn viewing rates by age group, per capita, the results likely would be very different.
-If they'd broken it down viewing rates among those with internet access, per capita (since states have differing rates of internet access per state), the results likely would have been different.
-Again If they'd used more than one subscription site the results might have been different.

[mainejeff]

Pandering for WHAT votes???? He's already getting THOSE votes.

He's not getting even a majority of those votes:

Santorum and Gingrich Split Evangelical Vote in Southern Primaries

March 14, 2012

Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich finished in a virtual tie for first place among evangelical voters in both Alabama, where evangelicals comprised 75% of the electorate, and Mississippi, where evangelicals accounted for 80% of all GOP primary voters. Santorum was supported by 35% of evangelicals in both states compared to 32% for Gingrich, with Mitt Romney placing third.

Read the full report.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2220/rick-s ... ma-primary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Santorum and Gingrich share the same voting block, dummy.

[BDKJMU]

He's not getting even a majority of those votes:

Santorum and Gingrich Split Evangelical Vote in Southern Primaries

March 14, 2012

Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich finished in a virtual tie for first place among evangelical voters in both Alabama, where evangelicals comprised 75% of the electorate, and Mississippi, where evangelicals accounted for 80% of all GOP primary voters. Santorum was supported by 35% of evangelicals in both states compared to 32% for Gingrich, with Mitt Romney placing third.

Read the full report.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2220/rick-s ... ma-primary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Santorum and Gingrich share the same voting block, dummy.

Well, dummy, you said Santorum already has all those votes, when he doesn't.

[mainejeff]

Santorum and Gingrich share the same voting block, dummy.

Well, dummy, you said Santorum already has all those votes, when he doesn't.

He will soon.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Well, dummy, you said Santorum already has all those votes, when he doesn't.

He will soon.

I'd love for that to be true... but if you were smart, you wouldn't wager the farm on that prediction...

[Ibanez]

Well, dummy, you said Santorum already has all those votes, when he doesn't.

He will soon.

No, he won't get the nomination. It will come down to California I think. A brokered convention is not what they need, that shows no unity ( IMO). Romney is the best they have.

[Gil Dobie]

Rick Santorum wants to put an end to the distribution of pornography in the United States.
"America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography," Santorum's official website reads. "Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking."
The former Pennsylvania senator states that, "as a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture."
Santorum criticized the Obama administration for turning "a blind eye ... to the scourge of pornography" and for refusing to enforce obscenity laws.
"If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so," Santorum writes. "While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rick ... 33811.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So Jon, are you in support of violence against women and illegal pornography(Under-aged children). On the other-hand you don't support it if it's done by Catholic Priest...................hmmmm. This looks to be the core pojection of your snipet. I don't support voilence to women, under-aged pornography by any segment of society, be it pornographers or Catholic Priest.

[kalm]

8 of the top 10 porn consuming states are red and Utah also happens to be the #1 gay porn consuming state. Conks need to let their hair down a little, get down with their bad selfs. Santorum is jeopardizing the conservative closet gay porn vote.

Link?

Firstly, if you happen to consume the most porn, then it wouldn't be surprising if you were the leader in most types of porn.

Secondly, if the Harvard study claims that, (I didn't see where it says that from the 2 links) again, they are using subscription data from only ONE porn site, so I'll take the entire study with a grain of salt.

For a more credible study, they should have analyzed subscription data from numerous porn sites. If they had, the results may have come out the same or nearly the same. Or they may have come out very different.

Regardless, people like porn including those who aren't supposed to. I find the dishonesty amusing.

[dbackjon]

Rick Santorum wants to put an end to the distribution of pornography in the United States.
"America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography," Santorum's official website reads. "Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking."
The former Pennsylvania senator states that, "as a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture."
Santorum criticized the Obama administration for turning "a blind eye ... to the scourge of pornography" and for refusing to enforce obscenity laws.
"If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so," Santorum writes. "While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rick ... 33811.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So Jon, are you in support of violence against women and illegal pornography(Under-aged children). On the other-hand you don't support it if it's done by Catholic Priest...................hmmmm. This looks to be the core pojection of your snipet. I don't support voilence to women, under-aged pornography by any segment of society, be it pornographers or Catholic Priest.

Talk about a reach. Who ever said they were in support of child porn? That is already illegal in every state.

That is not what Santorum is targeting.

Stupid, jeez

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Rick Santorum wants to put an end to the distribution of pornography in the United States.
"America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography," Santorum's official website reads. "Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking."
The former Pennsylvania senator states that, "as a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture."
Santorum criticized the Obama administration for turning "a blind eye ... to the scourge of pornography" and for refusing to enforce obscenity laws.
"If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so," Santorum writes. "While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rick ... 33811.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So Jon, are you in support of violence against women and illegal pornography(Under-aged children). On the other-hand you don't support it if it's done by Catholic Priest...................hmmmm. This looks to be the core pojection of your snipet. I don't support voilence to women, under-aged pornography by any segment of society, be it pornographers or Catholic Priest.

Don't understand your angle at all here Gil? Are you saying that porn leads to violence against women in society and that Jon, by calling out this idiotic rambling by Santorum supports ACTUAL violence?

I've seen you post for a long time and can not believe that you would take such a shaky position as far as logical thinking goes.

Hollywood puts out a pretty fair amount of movies that have violence against and by women as well as men. It may even be more prevalent in normal Hollywood movies than in porn so do we need to widen this scope because if you support taking those movies away then you in turn must support ACTUAL violence against women?

It appears you are trying to say real life is linked to what happens in art forms so if I've got that wrong let me know cuz I may be reading you wrong?

[travelinman67]

So Jon, are you in support of violence against women and illegal pornography(Under-aged children). On the other-hand you don't support it if it's done by Catholic Priest...................hmmmm. This looks to be the core pojection of your snipet. I don't support voilence to women, under-aged pornography by any segment of society, be it pornographers or Catholic Priest.

Talk about a reach. Who ever said they were in support of child porn? That is already illegal in every state.

That is not what Santorum is targeting.

Stupid, jeez

Gotta agree with you here, Jon.

I understand Santorum's position, but the SCOTUS has made it clear obscenity is regionally subjective: There can be no federal standard. Child porn is easily defined by age, but asserting that a fishnet stocking covered leg is obscene, as AGS's former owner once tried to argue, is simply illogical. Enforcement should be left to the states.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Talk about a reach. Who ever said they were in support of child porn? That is already illegal in every state.

That is not what Santorum is targeting.

Stupid, jeez

Gotta agree with you here, Jon.

I understand Santorum's position, but the SCOTUS has made it clear obscenity is regionally subjective: There can be no federal standard. Child porn is easily defined by age, but asserting that a fishnet stocking covered leg is obscene, as AGS's former owner once tried to argue, is simply illogical. Enforcement should be left to the states.

No shit man, that was f'n crazy. You can have a bare leg but can not have one with a certain kind of fabric over it.

[travelinman67]

...ran into this at Scotsman.Com...had a chuckle...

http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on-sun ... 1-2180456#

Cheeseburgers adverts same as sex and violence say SNP

ADVERTS for cheeseburgers should join sex, violence and bad language and be banned from TV before 9pm, according to the Scottish government.

The SNP claim that making it illegal to show advertisements for foods with high fat, sugar or salt content before the 9pm sex and violence watershed will protect the health of children and reduce obesity.

Public health minister Michael Matheson has written to the UK government calling for the introduction of such a ban, which would affect adverts for fast-food chains such as McDonald’s, Burger King and KFC.

So, when does "obscenity" become wordspeak for "social engineering"?



Funny how government is adamant about controlling humanity's baser needs; air, water, food, & sex...



In fairness, I'll have to admit to a near-prurient attraction to cheeseburgers...

Salty, hot, dripping cheese sauce...

Smooth, creamy, Mozzarella...

Or overflowing with rich, blue-veined goodness...

And mouth-filling spicy Jack...

No, wait!!!

/no homo







...and a definite aversion to Baby Brie.

[kalm]

...ran into this at Scotsman.Com...had a chuckle...

http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on-sun ... 1-2180456#

Cheeseburgers adverts same as sex and violence say SNP

ADVERTS for cheeseburgers should join sex, violence and bad language and be banned from TV before 9pm, according to the Scottish government.

The SNP claim that making it illegal to show advertisements for foods with high fat, sugar or salt content before the 9pm sex and violence watershed will protect the health of children and reduce obesity.

Public health minister Michael Matheson has written to the UK government calling for the introduction of such a ban, which would affect adverts for fast-food chains such as McDonald’s, Burger King and KFC.

So, when does "obscenity" become wordspeak for "social engineering"?



Funny how government is adamant about controlling humanity's baser needs; air, water, food, & sex...



In fairness, I'll have to admit to a near-prurient attraction to cheeseburgers...

Salty, hot, dripping cheese sauce...

Smooth, creamy, Mozzarella...

Or overflowing with rich, blue-veined goodness...

And mouth-filling spicy Jack...

No, wait!!!

/no homo







...and a definite aversion to Baby Brie.

Cheeseburgers cause more harm than porn.

[travelinman67]

Cheeseburgers cause more harm than porn.

Depends on the consumer.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

...ran into this at Scotsman.Com...had a chuckle...

http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on-sun ... 1-2180456#

Cheeseburgers adverts same as sex and violence say SNP



So, when does "obscenity" become wordspeak for "social engineering"?



Funny how government is adamant about controlling humanity's baser needs; air, water, food, & sex...



In fairness, I'll have to admit to a near-prurient attraction to cheeseburgers...

Salty, hot, dripping cheese sauce...

Smooth, creamy, Mozzarella...

Or overflowing with rich, blue-veined goodness...

And mouth-filling spicy Jack...

No, wait!!!

/no homo







...and a definite aversion to Baby Brie.

Cheeseburgers cause more harm than porn.

Amen brother. NEVER try and grab a quick fuck with a cheeseburger that is hot off the grill. Once bitten, twice shy my friend.

I love cheeseburgers but you have got to be cautious with them.

[Gil Dobie]

Don't understand your angle at all here Gil? Are you saying that porn leads to violence against women in society and that Jon, by calling out this idiotic rambling by Santorum supports ACTUAL violence?

I've seen you post for a long time and can not believe that you would take such a shaky position as far as logical thinking goes.

Hollywood puts out a pretty fair amount of movies that have violence against and by women as well as men. It may even be more prevalent in normal Hollywood movies than in porn so do we need to widen this scope because if you support taking those movies away then you in turn must support ACTUAL violence against women?

It appears you are trying to say real life is linked to what happens in art forms so if I've got that wrong let me know cuz I may be reading you wrong?

I see my sarcasm is rubbing off

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Don't understand your angle at all here Gil? Are you saying that porn leads to violence against women in society and that Jon, by calling out this idiotic rambling by Santorum supports ACTUAL violence?

I've seen you post for a long time and can not believe that you would take such a shaky position as far as logical thinking goes.

Hollywood puts out a pretty fair amount of movies that have violence against and by women as well as men. It may even be more prevalent in normal Hollywood movies than in porn so do we need to widen this scope because if you support taking those movies away then you in turn must support ACTUAL violence against women?

It appears you are trying to say real life is linked to what happens in art forms so if I've got that wrong let me know cuz I may be reading you wrong?

I see my sarcasm is rubbing off

I've never been a stranger to sarcasm.

[griz37]

I bet the Scottish govt. really hates the Kate Upton Carl's Jr. ad.

[89Hen]

I tried pulling it up on YT, but work did a kick save. I seriously doubt there have been many reliable studies one way or the other on this topic. It's only logic that would tell you that it is a contributing factor to those issues. If one person is affected that way, it's a contributing factor.

That's like saying Nuclear bombs are a contributing factor to violence in the world, when in fact if anything they prevent massive wars from taking place.

Great, another student in the AZ School of Analogies.

[89Hen]

If one person is affected that way, it's a contributing factor.

Not if two are affected the opposite way.

Isn't that like sticking one hand in a bucket of ice water and another in boiling water and saying they even each other out?

See, how analogies are done.