Catholic church has been hiding and creating serial pedophiles for centuries, yet gays are the problem.
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This, from a group drowning in a priest pedophile scandal.Just when you thought Minnesota’s Catholic bishops couldn’t sink any lower into the cesspool of anti-gay bigotry, Saint Paul and Minneapolis Archbishop John Nienstedt posts a letter to the local diocesan website that injects a prayer for marriage discrimination into the Catholic Mass itself.
Nienstedt writes that he is “pleased” to offer the following prayer, “meant for use within the Holy Mass as part of the Prayer of the Faithful,” for the explicit purpose of “assist[ing] in the strengthening of our state-wide efforts to defend marriage in our civil constitution:”
Heavenly Father,
Through the powerful intercession of the Holy Family, grant to this local Church the many graces we need to foster, strengthen, and support faith-filled, holy marriages and holy families.
May the vocation of married life, a true calling to share in your own divine and creative life, be recognized by all believers as a source of blessing and joy, and a revelation of your own divine goodness.
Grant to us all the gift of courage to proclaim and defend your plan for marriage, which is the union of one man and one woman in a lifelong, exclusive relationship of loving trust, compassion, and generosity, open to the conception of children.
We make our prayer through Jesus Christ, who is Lord forever and ever. Amen.![]()
The archbishop’s letter also “encourage[s] the posting of the prayer within Eucharistic Adoration chapels, along with an encouragement to adorers to pray for the success of the amendment and all efforts to strengthen marriage.”

He's a dishonest excuse-maker for criminals of the worst kind.kalm wrote:Joe, I don't blame you for being in attack mode at times, defending what you believe. And much of the time, you provide extremely well reasoned and eloquent arguments. But then the rug gets pulled out from under you by church leadership.

blueballs wrote:I don't understand the whole "Gay pride" thing. I like pussy and I like my wife's pussy in particular...

I told her the second portion of the earlier statement this morning.Baldy wrote:blueballs wrote:I don't understand the whole "Gay pride" thing. I like pussy and I like my wife's pussy in particular...![]()
I'm just guessing, but I don't think Penny reads this board, does she?

Having the freaks be the gay spokesmen is like having Rick Santorum be the conservative spokesman.blueballs wrote:I don't understand the whole "Gay pride" thing.
I like pussy and I like my wife's pussy in particular, yet I don't organize parades, walk around drawing attention to it, or generally acting the fool because of my sexual preference. It would seem to me that the best way to engender support for a 'cause' is to seem as attached to normalcy as possible, to promote cogent reasonably fact based positions, not to form groups based on a 'culture' and act the fool in public.
Case in point: My religious teachings and upbringing led me to oppose gay marriage and civil unions. However, the maid of honor in my wedding, who is in a committed 25+ year relationship, showed me why she and her partner (who are both wonderful people and don't act "gay" so you'd hardly know it) aren't on a level playing field as it pertains to taxation, estate planning, equitable distribution of assets, or next of kin as it relates to pulling the plug, among other things. She changed my mind by demonstrating the unfairness of the system as to why my wife and I have a far better situation that she and her partner even though they have been together 25+ years and my wife and I have been together 10+ years.
Guys, keep it in the bedroom and to yourselves, and for god's sake don't parade the freaks out in public because they become your defacto spokesmen. You stand a much better chance of winning hearts and minds by being real people, not caricature freaks.


You're in the majority.....no one has ever discriminated against you because you are a heterosexual male. I wouldn't expect you to "understand".blueballs wrote:I don't understand the whole "Gay pride" thing.
I like pussy and I like my wife's pussy in particular, yet I don't organize parades, walk around drawing attention to it, or generally acting the fool because of my sexual preference. It would seem to me that the best way to engender support for a 'cause' is to seem as attached to normalcy as possible, to promote cogent reasonably fact based positions, not to form groups based on a 'culture' and act the fool in public.
Case in point: My religious teachings and upbringing led me to oppose gay marriage and civil unions. However, the maid of honor in my wedding, who is in a committed 25+ year relationship, showed me why she and her partner (who are both wonderful people and don't act "gay" so you'd hardly know it) aren't on a level playing field as it pertains to taxation, estate planning, equitable distribution of assets, or next of kin as it relates to pulling the plug, among other things. She changed my mind by demonstrating the unfairness of the system as to why my wife and I have a far better situation that she and her partner even though they have been together 25+ years and my wife and I have been together 10+ years.
Guys, keep it in the bedroom and to yourselves, and for god's sake don't parade the freaks out in public because they become your defacto spokesmen. You stand a much better chance of winning hearts and minds by being real people, not caricature freaks.


Wordblueballs wrote:I don't understand the whole "Gay pride" thing.
I like pussy and I like my wife's pussy in particular, yet I don't organize parades, walk around drawing attention to it, or generally acting the fool because of my sexual preference. It would seem to me that the best way to engender support for a 'cause' is to seem as attached to normalcy as possible, to promote cogent reasonably fact based positions, not to form groups based on a 'culture' and act the fool in public.
Case in point: My religious teachings and upbringing led me to oppose gay marriage and civil unions. However, the maid of honor in my wedding, who is in a committed 25+ year relationship, showed me why she and her partner (who are both wonderful people and don't act "gay" so you'd hardly know it) aren't on a level playing field as it pertains to taxation, estate planning, equitable distribution of assets, or next of kin as it relates to pulling the plug, among other things. She changed my mind by demonstrating the unfairness of the system as to why my wife and I have a far better situation that she and her partner even though they have been together 25+ years and my wife and I have been together 10+ years.
Guys, keep it in the bedroom and to yourselves, and for god's sake don't parade the freaks out in public because they become your defacto spokesmen. You stand a much better chance of winning hearts and minds by being real people, not caricature freaks.

We'll stop our Pride parades when straight guys stop gathering at all-male clubs and man caves.travelinman67 wrote:Wordblueballs wrote:I don't understand the whole "Gay pride" thing.
I like pussy and I like my wife's pussy in particular, yet I don't organize parades, walk around drawing attention to it, or generally acting the fool because of my sexual preference. It would seem to me that the best way to engender support for a 'cause' is to seem as attached to normalcy as possible, to promote cogent reasonably fact based positions, not to form groups based on a 'culture' and act the fool in public.
Case in point: My religious teachings and upbringing led me to oppose gay marriage and civil unions. However, the maid of honor in my wedding, who is in a committed 25+ year relationship, showed me why she and her partner (who are both wonderful people and don't act "gay" so you'd hardly know it) aren't on a level playing field as it pertains to taxation, estate planning, equitable distribution of assets, or next of kin as it relates to pulling the plug, among other things. She changed my mind by demonstrating the unfairness of the system as to why my wife and I have a far better situation that she and her partner even though they have been together 25+ years and my wife and I have been together 10+ years.
Guys, keep it in the bedroom and to yourselves, and for god's sake don't parade the freaks out in public because they become your defacto spokesmen. You stand a much better chance of winning hearts and minds by being real people, not caricature freaks.
You're in the minority. I wouldn't expect you to understand.mainejeff wrote:I've never understood why heterosexual men need "man" nights.......or men only clubs.
Go figure.

You're in the majority. I wouldn't expect you to understand.Ibanez wrote:You're in the minority. I wouldn't expect you to understand.mainejeff wrote:I've never understood why heterosexual men need "man" nights.......or men only clubs.
Go figure.
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I've never understood why gays need a parade. Is it so they could dress up like Sailors, Indians, Bikers and Butterflys; prance and skip down main street to Gloria Estefan music while sipping Mai Thais?



I 've been to a few gay pride parades.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:1. Ibanez, you've clearly never been to an actual pride parade... while those elements are there... the festivals and parades aren't really much different than any other town festival/parade
2. Pride-festivals are hold-overs from a time (literally 10 years ago or less in many places) when it was dangerous to be "out" as a gay person in any city in America... The parades were a way of saying "we are here, and we aren't going away" (they were an outgrowth of the first parade, which a response to the Stonewall riots in NYC)
3. It wasn't that long ago where gays were cloistered in a handful of gay bars in a town (hell, it's still that way in many cities today) it was basically like living underground... a horrible way to have to live... Pride was the one time a year when they could be as "flaming" as they wanted.
I agree that the guys in the gold lamme speedos probably aren't the best advocates of "we're here, we're just like you, we'd like equal rights too" - however, given the distance this civil rights movement has traveled in 20 years... it's hardly surprising those folks are still around. What's interesting is to see - especially in the last few years - is how often I see people like this getting shit from other gays about the image they are giving their community...
Pride in the Twin Cities (one of the largest in the US) is actually a hell of a fun time... Minneapolis goes all out like they do for many other community festivals... it's a huge family thing - you see more strollers and families than you do leather boys or biker broads...
Hell - I wouldn't be surprised, now that DADT has been repealed to see the military have booths there recruiting this year... most of the big companies in town (Target, Best Buy, etc) have booths... right alongside political booths, sexual health booths (free tests and the like - again, a holdover from the closeted days)

You obviously have a fvckin problem........get over it......and yourself.Ibanez wrote:I 've been to a few gay pride parades.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:1. Ibanez, you've clearly never been to an actual pride parade... while those elements are there... the festivals and parades aren't really much different than any other town festival/parade
2. Pride-festivals are hold-overs from a time (literally 10 years ago or less in many places) when it was dangerous to be "out" as a gay person in any city in America... The parades were a way of saying "we are here, and we aren't going away" (they were an outgrowth of the first parade, which a response to the Stonewall riots in NYC)
3. It wasn't that long ago where gays were cloistered in a handful of gay bars in a town (hell, it's still that way in many cities today) it was basically like living underground... a horrible way to have to live... Pride was the one time a year when they could be as "flaming" as they wanted.
I agree that the guys in the gold lamme speedos probably aren't the best advocates of "we're here, we're just like you, we'd like equal rights too" - however, given the distance this civil rights movement has traveled in 20 years... it's hardly surprising those folks are still around. What's interesting is to see - especially in the last few years - is how often I see people like this getting **** from other gays about the image they are giving their community...
Pride in the Twin Cities (one of the largest in the US) is actually a hell of a fun time... Minneapolis goes all out like they do for many other community festivals... it's a huge family thing - you see more strollers and families than you do leather boys or biker broads...
Hell - I wouldn't be surprised, now that DADT has been repealed to see the military have booths there recruiting this year... most of the big companies in town (Target, Best Buy, etc) have booths... right alongside political booths, sexual health booths (free tests and the like - again, a holdover from the closeted days)
I'm speaking in jest.
It used to be dangeorus to be Catholic, Chinese, Irish (today doesn't count) Japanese, Black, etc.. in america. Where are their parades?
I thought Gay meant happy, not sad, alone, intolerant, pompous and condescending. How do I have a problem for asking questions and making jokes? Quit being such a fag and get over yourself. Fuckin uppity liberal.mainejeff wrote:You obviously have a fvckin problem........get over it......and yourself.Ibanez wrote:
I 've been to a few gay pride parades.
I'm speaking in jest.
It used to be dangeorus to be Catholic, Chinese, Irish (today doesn't count) Japanese, Black, etc.. in america. Where are their parades?

Ibanez wrote:I 've been to a few gay pride parades.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:1. Ibanez, you've clearly never been to an actual pride parade... while those elements are there... the festivals and parades aren't really much different than any other town festival/parade
2. Pride-festivals are hold-overs from a time (literally 10 years ago or less in many places) when it was dangerous to be "out" as a gay person in any city in America... The parades were a way of saying "we are here, and we aren't going away" (they were an outgrowth of the first parade, which a response to the Stonewall riots in NYC)
3. It wasn't that long ago where gays were cloistered in a handful of gay bars in a town (hell, it's still that way in many cities today) it was basically like living underground... a horrible way to have to live... Pride was the one time a year when they could be as "flaming" as they wanted.
I agree that the guys in the gold lamme speedos probably aren't the best advocates of "we're here, we're just like you, we'd like equal rights too" - however, given the distance this civil rights movement has traveled in 20 years... it's hardly surprising those folks are still around. What's interesting is to see - especially in the last few years - is how often I see people like this getting shit from other gays about the image they are giving their community...
Pride in the Twin Cities (one of the largest in the US) is actually a hell of a fun time... Minneapolis goes all out like they do for many other community festivals... it's a huge family thing - you see more strollers and families than you do leather boys or biker broads...
Hell - I wouldn't be surprised, now that DADT has been repealed to see the military have booths there recruiting this year... most of the big companies in town (Target, Best Buy, etc) have booths... right alongside political booths, sexual health booths (free tests and the like - again, a holdover from the closeted days)
I'm speaking in jest.
It used to be dangeorus to be Catholic, Chinese, Irish (today doesn't count) Japanese, Black, etc.. in america. Where are their parades?





FU uppity homophobe CONK.Ibanez wrote:I thought Gay meant happy, not sad, alone, intolerant, pompous and condescending. How do I have a problem for asking questions and making jokes? Quit being such a fag and get over yourself. **** uppity liberal.mainejeff wrote:
You obviously have a fvckin problem........get over it......and yourself.

dude - you are living proof that uptight douchebags come in all shapes, colors, sizes and orientations...mainejeff wrote:FU uppity homophobe CONK.Ibanez wrote: I thought Gay meant happy, not sad, alone, intolerant, pompous and condescending. How do I have a problem for asking questions and making jokes? Quit being such a fag and get over yourself. **** uppity liberal.


but mj is.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:dude - you are living proof that uptight douchebags come in all shapes, colors, sizes and orientations...mainejeff wrote:
FU uppity homophobe CONK.
lighten the fuck up... it's Ibanez for chrissakes... not some beyond hope bigoted shitbag like JSO...
give an honest answer - provide a little insight... might not change his mind - but he's not a mindless prick.

haha You are the reason gays have a bad rap. You judge others, call the names to which couldn't be further from the truth and do you cause more harm. Lighten up.mainejeff wrote:FU uppity homophobe CONK.Ibanez wrote: I thought Gay meant happy, not sad, alone, intolerant, pompous and condescending. How do I have a problem for asking questions and making jokes? Quit being such a fag and get over yourself. **** uppity liberal.