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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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Hey dooshback, Simpson didn't call Santorum disgusting as you state in your thread title. He said something Santorum said was disgusting. Big difference. But accuracy wouldn't have been good for your thread title now would it? :roll:
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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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JoltinJoe wrote:
dbackjon wrote:So Joe - where do you draw the line between civil rights and morality?

Preachers in the south said it was immoral for blacks and whites to share facilities. Should that have been left to the states?
The line is drawn by the text of the US Constitution. A state law stands unless it violates a specific provision of the US Constitution. A law which prohibits the use of "facilities" based on race violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, i.e., unconstitutional.
And Loving v Virginia?

Lawrence v Texas?
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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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dbackjon wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
The line is drawn by the text of the US Constitution. A state law stands unless it violates a specific provision of the US Constitution. A law which prohibits the use of "facilities" based on race violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, i.e., unconstitutional.
And Loving v Virginia?

Lawrence v Texas?
In Loving, the law created a distinction based on race, in violation of equal protection, by outlawing interracial marriage.

In Lawrence, Justice Kennedy held that the law outlawing sodomy did not advance even have a rational basis. Therefore, since there was at least a bare liberty interest at stake, protected by the 14th Amendment, the law did not pass constitutional scrutiny.

Honestly, his decision was a mess from a constitutional perspective. Either hold that homosexuals are a protected class and the law does not pass strict scrutiny; or uphold the law. IMO, you could make a plausible argument that homosexuals have been the victim of historic disparate treatment at the hands of the government and can be recognized as a "protected" class (notably in government's denial of certain benefits which married heterosexuals can obtain). Granted, government has never passed laws preventing them from voting, or hindering their ability to vote, or denying them equal educational benefits (the type of typical tests by which you establish a "protected" class). Still, the argument is plausible and within recognized precedent. I think what Kennedy did in Lawrence was a bit dishonest.
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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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JoltinJoe wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
And Loving v Virginia?

Lawrence v Texas?
In Loving, the law created a distinction based on race, in violation of equal protection, by outlawing interracial marriage.

In Lawrence, Justice Kennedy held that the law outlawing sodomy did not advance even have a rational basis. Therefore, since there was at least a bare liberty interest at stake, protected by the 14th Amendment, the law did not pass constitutional scrutiny.

Honestly, his decision was a mess from a constitutional perspective. Either hold that homosexuals are a protected class and the law does not pass strict scrutiny; or uphold the law. IMO, you could make a plausible argument that homosexuals have been the victim of historic disparate treatment at the hands of the government and can be recognized as a "protected" class (notably in government's denial of certain benefits which married heterosexuals can obtain). Granted, government has never passed laws preventing them from voting, or hindering their ability to vote, or denying them equal educational benefits (the type of typical tests by which you establish a "protected" class). Still, the argument is plausible and within recognized precedent. I think what Kennedy did in Lawrence was a bit dishonest.
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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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BDKJMU wrote:Hey dooshback, Simpson didn't call Santorum disgusting as you state in your thread title. He said something Santorum said was disgusting. Big difference. But accuracy wouldn't have been good for your thread title now would it? :roll:
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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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Ivytalk wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
In Loving, the law created a distinction based on race, in violation of equal protection, by outlawing interracial marriage.

In Lawrence, Justice Kennedy held that the law outlawing sodomy did not advance even have a rational basis. Therefore, since there was at least a bare liberty interest at stake, protected by the 14th Amendment, the law did not pass constitutional scrutiny.

Honestly, his decision was a mess from a constitutional perspective. Either hold that homosexuals are a protected class and the law does not pass strict scrutiny; or uphold the law. IMO, you could make a plausible argument that homosexuals have been the victim of historic disparate treatment at the hands of the government and can be recognized as a "protected" class (notably in government's denial of certain benefits which married heterosexuals can obtain). Granted, government has never passed laws preventing them from voting, or hindering their ability to vote, or denying them equal educational benefits (the type of typical tests by which you establish a "protected" class). Still, the argument is plausible and within recognized precedent. I think what Kennedy did in Lawrence was a bit dishonest.
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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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Ivytalk wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
In Loving, the law created a distinction based on race, in violation of equal protection, by outlawing interracial marriage.

In Lawrence, Justice Kennedy held that the law outlawing sodomy did not advance even have a rational basis. Therefore, since there was at least a bare liberty interest at stake, protected by the 14th Amendment, the law did not pass constitutional scrutiny.

Honestly, his decision was a mess from a constitutional perspective. Either hold that homosexuals are a protected class and the law does not pass strict scrutiny; or uphold the law. IMO, you could make a plausible argument that homosexuals have been the victim of historic disparate treatment at the hands of the government and can be recognized as a "protected" class (notably in government's denial of certain benefits which married heterosexuals can obtain). Granted, government has never passed laws preventing them from voting, or hindering their ability to vote, or denying them equal educational benefits (the type of typical tests by which you establish a "protected" class). Still, the argument is plausible and within recognized precedent. I think what Kennedy did in Lawrence was a bit dishonest.
JJ: I got your PM, but the computer is telling me that you've disabled your inbox so I can't sent the response that I've prepared to your questions. Please either PM me with an e-mail address or enable your inbound PMs. Thanks.

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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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Ivytalk wrote: JJ: I got your PM, but the computer is telling me that you've disabled your inbox so I can't sent the response that I've prepared to your questions. Please either PM me with an e-mail address or enable your inbound PMs. Thanks.

Text of that PM, hacked by Cap'n Cat:

"Ivy,
Dude, I just can't take The Cap'n and D1B anymore! It was bad enough with just them, but there are just SO MANY **** LIBERALS on the board these days!!! I can't cope.

I really need a refill on your wife's Thorazine you sent me a few weeks ago. If I don't have it, I swear, I'll quit my practice and maybe, just MAYBE, go Donk like my brain is telling me to do!!! Plus, I really, really wanna fvck Purple For Life, so I can't lose D1B as a contact. Hurry!!!!"

Thanks and praise be to Jesus.

Joe"



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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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Ivytalk wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

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"Ivy,
Dude, I just can't take The Cap'n and D1B anymore! It was bad enough with just them, but there are just SO MANY **** LIBERALS on the board these days!!! I can't cope.

I really need a refill on your wife's Thorazine you sent me a few weeks ago. If I don't have it, I swear, I'll quit my practice and maybe, just MAYBE, go Donk like my brain is telling me to do!!! Plus, I really, really wanna fvck Purple For Life, so I can't lose D1B as a contact. Hurry!!!!"

Thanks and praise be to Jesus.

Joe"



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Man, I'll bet you just peed all over yourself with that one. Do us all a favor and read some Hayek.
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Salma????
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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: JJ: I got your PM, but the computer is telling me that you've disabled your inbox so I can't sent the response that I've prepared to your questions. Please either PM me with an e-mail address or enable your inbound PMs. Thanks.

Text of that PM, hacked by Cap'n Cat:

"Ivy,
Dude, I just can't take The Cap'n and D1B anymore! It was bad enough with just them, but there are just SO MANY **** LIBERALS on the board these days!!! I can't cope.

I really need a refill on your wife's Thorazine you sent me a few weeks ago. If I don't have it, I swear, I'll quit my practice and maybe, just MAYBE, go Donk like my brain is telling me to do!!! Plus, I really, really wanna fvck Purple For Life, so I can't lose D1B as a contact. Hurry!!!!"

Thanks and praise be to Jesus.

Joe"



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How did you get my message?
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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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JoltinJoe wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

Text of that PM, hacked by Cap'n Cat:

"Ivy,
Dude, I just can't take The Cap'n and D1B anymore! It was bad enough with just them, but there are just SO MANY **** LIBERALS on the board these days!!! I can't cope.

I really need a refill on your wife's Thorazine you sent me a few weeks ago. If I don't have it, I swear, I'll quit my practice and maybe, just MAYBE, go Donk like my brain is telling me to do!!! Plus, I really, really wanna fvck Purple For Life, so I can't lose D1B as a contact. Hurry!!!!"

Thanks and praise be to Jesus.

Joe"



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How did you get my message?

Ralph got it for me!!!

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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Man, I'll bet you just peed all over yourself with that one. Do us all a favor and read some Hayek.
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Salma????
If I'd meant Salma, the verb would've been "feel". 8-)
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Re: GOP Senator Simpson: Santorum is rigid and disgusting

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JoltinJoe wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

Text of that PM, hacked by Cap'n Cat:

"Ivy,
Dude, I just can't take The Cap'n and D1B anymore! It was bad enough with just them, but there are just SO MANY **** LIBERALS on the board these days!!! I can't cope.

I really need a refill on your wife's Thorazine you sent me a few weeks ago. If I don't have it, I swear, I'll quit my practice and maybe, just MAYBE, go Donk like my brain is telling me to do!!! Plus, I really, really wanna fvck Purple For Life, so I can't lose D1B as a contact. Hurry!!!!"

Thanks and praise be to Jesus.

Joe"



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How did you get my message?
It was either what I "found" or your Dad needs a ticket fixed by IT in Massachusetts.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:Brilliant quotes highlighting the disgust with which even fellow Conks regard their lambs to Obama's 2012 slaughter. Conks should just retire from this board, cuz it's gonna be ugly for years.

:coffee:
And leave it to the likes of you, your brother, Wedgie, Jellybelly and klam? NEVER!!! :tantrum: :stir:

I liked Simpson. He was a good friend of Delaware's Bill Roth (a native Montanan, BTW). Both were solid fiscal conservatives who respected the environment. Roth never engaged in the social issues crap.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Brilliant quotes highlighting the disgust with which even fellow Conks regard their lambs to Obama's 2012 slaughter. Conks should just retire from this board, cuz it's gonna be ugly for years.

:coffee:
And leave it to the likes of you, your brother, Wedgie, Jellybelly and klam? NEVER!!! :tantrum: :stir:

I liked Simpson. He was a good friend of Delaware's Bill Roth (a native Montanan, BTW). Both were solid fiscal conservatives who respected the environment. Roth never engaged in the social issues crap.
Hey WTF? Don't lump me in with that crew. I'm internet conservative. :tothehand:
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Cap'n Cat wrote:Brilliant quotes highlighting the disgust with which even fellow Conks regard their lambs to Obama's 2012 slaughter. Conks should just retire from this board, cuz it's gonna be ugly for years.

:coffee:
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travelinman67 wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Brilliant quotes highlighting the disgust with which even fellow Conks regard their lambs to Obama's 2012 slaughter. Conks should just retire from this board, cuz it's gonna be ugly for years.

:coffee:
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You go after the theologians and I'll match wits with the lawyers."

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Mudskipper D wrote:"Hey, Cappie! Check this out! I'm going after T."
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T, you gotta get those boys some water. :lol:
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dbackjon wrote:So Joe - where do you draw the line between civil rights and morality?

Preachers in the south said it was immoral for blacks and whites to share facilities. Should that have been left to the states?
States' rights extends to those things not reserved to the federal government and must also not circumvent the Constitution. So, yes, it WAS left to the states, but segregation was not Constitutionally supported and that's why it died.
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D1B wrote::lol:
travelinman67 wrote:
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T, you gotta get those boys some water. :lol:
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: JJ: I got your PM, but the computer is telling me that you've disabled your inbox so I can't sent the response that I've prepared to your questions. Please either PM me with an e-mail address or enable your inbound PMs. Thanks.

Text of that PM, hacked by Cap'n Cat:

"Ivy,
Dude, I just can't take The Cap'n and D1B anymore! It was bad enough with just them, but there are just SO MANY **** LIBERALS on the board these days!!! I can't cope.

I really need a refill on your wife's Thorazine you sent me a few weeks ago. If I don't have it, I swear, I'll quit my practice and maybe, just MAYBE, go Donk like my brain is telling me to do!!! Plus, I really, really wanna fvck Purple For Life, so I can't lose D1B as a contact. Hurry!!!!"

Thanks and praise be to Jesus.

Joe"



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Ivytalk wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Brilliant quotes highlighting the disgust with which even fellow Conks regard their lambs to Obama's 2012 slaughter. Conks should just retire from this board, cuz it's gonna be ugly for years.

:coffee:
And leave it to the likes of you, your brother, Wedgie, Jellybelly and klam? NEVER!!! :tantrum: :stir:

I liked Simpson. He was a good friend of Delaware's Bill Roth (a native Montanan, BTW). Both were solid fiscal conservatives who respected the environment. Roth never engaged in the social issues crap.

I admired Simpson from afar back in the Reagan darkness. Good man.
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:lol: Joe and Ivytwat, PM'in each other ...

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"Yo, Ivytwat :lol: sorry, that's still funny , D and that disgruntled rape victim just handed me my ass, again, on another fucking basher thread. I'm sick of that prick. Need your help. Here's the plan - I'm gonna post some constitutional law bullshit that makes me appear intelligent so I save face. I'll run point and Tdog's got interference. The minute that fat fuck Cap'n jumps in with some plain old common sense - we both hit him with everything we got. I've got Marie and the entire paralegal staff on high alert here to do research and was hoping you could do the same with your fellas in constitutional and civil rights..."
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Yup - Simpson was a GOPer I could respect
That's because he has no spine. Here, he is criticizing someone who has the courage of his convictions and is willing to take a stand.

Simpson is a twit. A cartoon. It's always been the case.
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