Which Party Has Responsibility for the National Debt?

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TheDancinMonarch wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote: It's everyone's responsibilty.
That's right. It's our fault. We have allowed both sides to steal us blind. And what do we do? We spend most of our time in the ridiculous argument over which side is worse. It's the Republicans fault! No it's the Democrats fault! A pox on both sides!!!
Agreed. But when it boils down to it, it really is the Dems fault.
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catamount man wrote:Facts don't lie I'm afraid. Thanks for posting that chart. The token negro has failed! :thumb:
Democrat fall guy. They now won't have to worry about electing another black guy for 50 years. :geek:
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catamount man wrote:The token negro has failed! :thumb:
:shock: :ohno:
Don't shake your head at me. That's exactly what a lot of white baby boomer democrats are thinking. As a person and human being, I like the president. I just can't believe he fell for everything Reid/Pelosi/Hillary and the rest of those limousine liberals told him. It IS sad. After promising hope and change, "I won't be politics as usual", well, it's the EXACT same song and dance the USA had under Bush 43. He has nobody to blame but himself.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
catamount man wrote:Facts don't lie I'm afraid. Thanks for posting that chart. The token negro has failed! :thumb:
Democrat fall guy. They now won't have to worry about electing another black guy for 50 years. :geek:
Maybe that's what the Republicans are hoping for by hyping up Cain so much...:whistle:
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DSUrocks07 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Democrat fall guy. They now won't have to worry about electing another black guy for 50 years. :geek:
Maybe that's what the Republicans are hoping for by hyping up Cain so much...:whistle:
Possible. But Cain is ALREADY more qualified than Obama EVER was to be president. :nod:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
if that's true - then 95 should be blue.
Which is fine, what's '94 look like? :roll:

How about '93? :coffee:

Christ, it's **** hilarious to watch donks try to parse the data instead of just admitting they're wrong regarding the party that spends more. :rofl: :rofl:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
DSUrocks07 wrote:
Maybe that's what the Republicans are hoping for by hyping up Cain so much...:whistle:
Possible. But Cain is ALREADY more qualified than Obama EVER was to be president. :nod:
Big difference! Cain is actually a QUALIFIED fellow who HAPPENS to be black.
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My opinion is that it is the Democratic Party. The reason is that the "entitlement mentality" began with FDR in the early 20th century. FDR successfully established the idea that government is responsible for ensuring the well being of each individual.

Ask yourself where we would be if Republicans had always been in control and gotten what they wanted from the early 20th Century on. I think you know that the answer is that government would be much less involved. There would be no Social Security or Medicare systems. There would be no Welfare. So on and so forth.

Sure, Republicans have fallen in line over time and continued the problem. Once entitlement and social programs were established political reality meant that they weren't about to just outright abolish them. But they are not the ones who started it.

Absoutely no question in my mind that, over the long term, influence by the Democratic Party is the reason for the chronic national deficit and debt problems that the United States has.
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Party? I don't blame a party... I blame the Baby Boomer #$%^S... the no tax, gimme my entitlement crowd.

I'm no advocate of social Darwinism, but the bust generation needs to go.

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biobengal wrote:Party? I don't blame a party... I blame the Baby Boomer #$%^S... the no tax, gimme my entitlement crowd.

I'm no advocate of social Darwinism, but the bust generation needs to go.

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Sure. Blame an entire generation. Ignore the data and just blame the generation. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: I think what you meant to say was you blame the LIBERAL Baby Boomers. Because the graph clearly shows that when the CONSERVATIVE Baby Boomers are in charge, the national debt goes DOWN.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
biobengal wrote:Party? I don't blame a party... I blame the Baby Boomer #$%^S... the no tax, gimme my entitlement crowd.

I'm no advocate of social Darwinism, but the bust generation needs to go.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... tests.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sure. Blame an entire generation. Ignore the data and just blame the generation. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: I think what you meant to say was you blame the LIBERAL Baby Boomers. Because the graph clearly shows that when the CONSERVATIVE Baby Boomers are in charge, the national debt goes DOWN.
Ignore the data that "clearly shows" what? That isn't data... I've got more data regarding a fruit flies eyelash. That graph is a bunch of horse$hit, straight from the Herman Cain school of economics.
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biobengal wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Sure. Blame an entire generation. Ignore the data and just blame the generation. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: I think what you meant to say was you blame the LIBERAL Baby Boomers. Because the graph clearly shows that when the CONSERVATIVE Baby Boomers are in charge, the national debt goes DOWN.
Ignore the data that "clearly shows" what? That isn't data... I've got more data regarding a fruit flies eyelash. That graph is a bunch of horse$hit, straight from the Herman Cain school of economics.
:rofl:

Sure, because it flys in the face of what your liberal think tank taught you...thems the facts, bio. Like 'em or not......17 years of data that clearly show when conservatives own the house and senate the deficit declines. CLEARLY...
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catamount man wrote:
89Hen wrote: :shock: :ohno:
Don't shake your head at me. That's exactly what a lot of white baby boomer democrats are thinking. As a person and human being, I like the president. I just can't believe he fell for everything Reid/Pelosi/Hillary and the rest of those limousine liberals told him. It IS sad. After promising hope and change, "I won't be politics as usual", well, it's the EXACT same song and dance the USA had under Bush 43. He has nobody to blame but himself.
As a boomer, I do not know a single boomer who thinks Obummer is a "token."

Nor do I know any who are willing to publicly proclaim him a success.
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