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How much can one of these actually cost?dbackjon wrote:Tea Party

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And you're AZ, minus the good looks, big paycheck, nice house, great job and intelligence level.D1B wrote:I believe it. Just love your delivery and unflinching but enlightened hatred of donks. You're AZ, if he was cool and composed.Bronco wrote:
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Democrat fall guy. They now won't have to worry about electing another black guy for 50 years.catamount man wrote:Facts don't lie I'm afraid. Thanks for posting that chart. The token negro has failed!
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Don't shake your head at me. That's exactly what a lot of white baby boomer democrats are thinking. As a person and human being, I like the president. I just can't believe he fell for everything Reid/Pelosi/Hillary and the rest of those limousine liberals told him. It IS sad. After promising hope and change, "I won't be politics as usual", well, it's the EXACT same song and dance the USA had under Bush 43. He has nobody to blame but himself.89Hen wrote:catamount man wrote:The token negro has failed!![]()
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Maybe that's what the Republicans are hoping for by hyping up Cain so much...AZGrizFan wrote:Democrat fall guy. They now won't have to worry about electing another black guy for 50 years.catamount man wrote:Facts don't lie I'm afraid. Thanks for posting that chart. The token negro has failed!
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Possible. But Cain is ALREADY more qualified than Obama EVER was to be president.DSUrocks07 wrote:Maybe that's what the Republicans are hoping for by hyping up Cain so much...AZGrizFan wrote:
Democrat fall guy. They now won't have to worry about electing another black guy for 50 years.
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AZGrizFan wrote:Which is fine, what's '94 look like?TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
if that's true - then 95 should be blue.![]()
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Christ, it's **** hilarious to watch donks try to parse the data instead of just admitting they're wrong regarding the party that spends more.![]()
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Big difference! Cain is actually a QUALIFIED fellow who HAPPENS to be black.AZGrizFan wrote:Possible. But Cain is ALREADY more qualified than Obama EVER was to be president.DSUrocks07 wrote:
Maybe that's what the Republicans are hoping for by hyping up Cain so much...
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My opinion is that it is the Democratic Party. The reason is that the "entitlement mentality" began with FDR in the early 20th century. FDR successfully established the idea that government is responsible for ensuring the well being of each individual.
Ask yourself where we would be if Republicans had always been in control and gotten what they wanted from the early 20th Century on. I think you know that the answer is that government would be much less involved. There would be no Social Security or Medicare systems. There would be no Welfare. So on and so forth.
Sure, Republicans have fallen in line over time and continued the problem. Once entitlement and social programs were established political reality meant that they weren't about to just outright abolish them. But they are not the ones who started it.
Absoutely no question in my mind that, over the long term, influence by the Democratic Party is the reason for the chronic national deficit and debt problems that the United States has.
Ask yourself where we would be if Republicans had always been in control and gotten what they wanted from the early 20th Century on. I think you know that the answer is that government would be much less involved. There would be no Social Security or Medicare systems. There would be no Welfare. So on and so forth.
Sure, Republicans have fallen in line over time and continued the problem. Once entitlement and social programs were established political reality meant that they weren't about to just outright abolish them. But they are not the ones who started it.
Absoutely no question in my mind that, over the long term, influence by the Democratic Party is the reason for the chronic national deficit and debt problems that the United States has.
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Party? I don't blame a party... I blame the Baby Boomer #$%^S... the no tax, gimme my entitlement crowd.
I'm no advocate of social Darwinism, but the bust generation needs to go.
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I'm no advocate of social Darwinism, but the bust generation needs to go.
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Sure. Blame an entire generation. Ignore the data and just blame the generation.biobengal wrote:Party? I don't blame a party... I blame the Baby Boomer #$%^S... the no tax, gimme my entitlement crowd.
I'm no advocate of social Darwinism, but the bust generation needs to go.
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Ignore the data that "clearly shows" what? That isn't data... I've got more data regarding a fruit flies eyelash. That graph is a bunch of horse$hit, straight from the Herman Cain school of economics.AZGrizFan wrote:Sure. Blame an entire generation. Ignore the data and just blame the generation.biobengal wrote:Party? I don't blame a party... I blame the Baby Boomer #$%^S... the no tax, gimme my entitlement crowd.
I'm no advocate of social Darwinism, but the bust generation needs to go.
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I think what you meant to say was you blame the LIBERAL Baby Boomers. Because the graph clearly shows that when the CONSERVATIVE Baby Boomers are in charge, the national debt goes DOWN.
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biobengal wrote:Ignore the data that "clearly shows" what? That isn't data... I've got more data regarding a fruit flies eyelash. That graph is a bunch of horse$hit, straight from the Herman Cain school of economics.AZGrizFan wrote:
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I think what you meant to say was you blame the LIBERAL Baby Boomers. Because the graph clearly shows that when the CONSERVATIVE Baby Boomers are in charge, the national debt goes DOWN.
Sure, because it flys in the face of what your liberal think tank taught you...thems the facts, bio. Like 'em or not......17 years of data that clearly show when conservatives own the house and senate the deficit declines. CLEARLY...
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As a boomer, I do not know a single boomer who thinks Obummer is a "token."catamount man wrote:Don't shake your head at me. That's exactly what a lot of white baby boomer democrats are thinking. As a person and human being, I like the president. I just can't believe he fell for everything Reid/Pelosi/Hillary and the rest of those limousine liberals told him. It IS sad. After promising hope and change, "I won't be politics as usual", well, it's the EXACT same song and dance the USA had under Bush 43. He has nobody to blame but himself.89Hen wrote:![]()
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