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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:Two simple questions....

If society has an obligation to the underclass, what obligation does the underclass have to society?

How can anyone sanely expect someone to work 40 hours a week at a 7-11 when they can maintain the same lifestyle sitting on their pathetic, non-productive asses?
Poverty is not as easy as Tman makes it out to be, especially for women. The lazy bums you see on the street corners or the tenants in Tbag's neighbor's building are the exception and make up a small fraction of the poor. Most poor are women and children, the elderly, the mentally ill, veterans and working families.

What does the underclass owe to society? To try. Most do to. The few that don't are used as poster children to keep the middle class distracted while greedy conks to steal their money and give it to defense contractors and Wall Street.
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I'm 100% in agreement that those who receive assistance have an obligation, if physically able, to do something in return.

There should be at the very least a forced volunteer program.
I agree here. Forced volunteering (good oxymoron there) would be an excellent solution.

And D1B, JBBP is 100x a better human than you are. You're just 100x his weight.
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D1B wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I agree here. Forced volunteering (good oxymoron there) would be an excellent solution.

And D1B, JBBP is 100x a better human than you are. You're just 100x his weight.
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D1B wrote:
JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:Two simple questions....

If society has an obligation to the underclass, what obligation does the underclass have to society?

How can anyone sanely expect someone to work 40 hours a week at a 7-11 when they can maintain the same lifestyle sitting on their pathetic, non-productive asses?
Poverty is not as easy as Tman makes it out to be, especially for women. The lazy bums you see on the street corners or the tenants in Tbag's neighbor's building are the exception and make up a small fraction of the poor. Most poor are women and children, the elderly, the mentally ill, veterans and working families.

What does the underclass owe to society? To try. Most do to. The few that don't are used as poster children to keep the middle class distracted while greedy conks to steal their money and give it to defense contractors and Wall Street.
It is that easy, if someone actually has an ounce of responsibility. Don't breed and add more mouths to feed in this world if you cannot support your own existence. Its that f'ing simple; and until the day comes that there is no benefit from having little bastard children, the poor will continue to perpetuate their poverty to new generations. If illegals can work hard, support their expenses here, and ship back money to their families in Mexico, then why can't our underclass show the same work ethic? I'll tell you why, because they don't have to, and live a pretty good life sucking off the tit of government benefits.
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:
D1B wrote:
Poverty is not as easy as Tman makes it out to be, especially for women. The lazy bums you see on the street corners or the tenants in Tbag's neighbor's building are the exception and make up a small fraction of the poor. Most poor are women and children, the elderly, the mentally ill, veterans and working families.

What does the underclass owe to society? To try. Most do to. The few that don't are used as poster children to keep the middle class distracted while greedy conks to steal their money and give it to defense contractors and Wall Street.
It is that easy, if someone actually has an ounce of responsibility. Don't breed and add more mouths to feed in this world if you cannot support your own existence. Its that f'ing simple; and until the day comes that there is no benefit from having little bastard children, the poor will continue to perpetuate their poverty to new generations. If illegals can work hard, support their expenses here, and ship back money to their families in Mexico, then why can't our underclass show the same work ethic? I'll tell you why, because they don't have to, and live a pretty good life sucking off the tit of government benefits.
Because our "Super Poor" underclass are infirm, mentally ill, elderly or addicted to drugs and alcohol and thus unfit for gainful employment. You really think living off the government is a "pretty good life"!? You're fucking crazy and don't know what you're talking about.

Read up on this shit, Spanky, then come back. Better yet, visit the Super Poor.
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:A-fokking-men.

The problem with our society is not that some people have risen above others in terms of earnings. Its that the underclass is pampered, shows no obligation to society, is undermotivated, and has been led to believe that they are victims of this great economy.

Screw them. If you quit feeding and sheltering the fucking homeless, there eventually won't be anymore. If you quit providing a decent lifestyle for those that contribute nothing, they'll quit breeding and actually get off of their lazy asses, and may actually compete for the jobs that are currently held by Taco, Nacho, and Burrito - helping to solve our immigration issues.

The answer is simple, tough love. It is a relative blessing to be "poor" in America, considering the lifestyle that our tax dollars enable. If only someone had the balls to really solve this problem vice treating these useless fuckers like royalty. I dream of the day.
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D1B wrote: You really think living off the government is a "pretty good life"!? You're **** crazy and don't know what you're talking about.
Compared to the non-American population of underachievers, self-proclaimed victims, lazy pieces of shit, or alcoholics/druggies, our poor live like f'n royalty.

They are all parasitic tapeworms, but the American tapeworm is the among most vile, offensive, and well-subsidized of them all.
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:
D1B wrote: You really think living off the government is a "pretty good life"!? You're **** crazy and don't know what you're talking about.
Compared to the non-American population of underachievers, self-proclaimed victims, lazy pieces of shit, or alcoholics/druggies, our poor live like f'n royalty.

They are all parasitic tapeworms, but the American tapeworm is the among most vile, offensive, and well-subsidized of them all.
Well, we're wealthier and generally kinder than others. At least we used to be. We aint coddling the poor. You're speaking out of your ass and you don't know shit. Sounds good to the rest of the conks here, but you're a fucking idiot who has been duped by half assed politicians who profit from vilifying the poor.

Try thinking for yourself you pussy.

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Typical douchetard response. Can't win with a civil discourse, so resorts to the name-calling, pulling the race card, and "you're just wrong" backup plan.

Way to go, Skippy. I once heard you carried some weight around here with your liberal views, but your ability to make rational arguments is pretty poor. I had expected better, honestly.

Since you pulled the conk race card, I could oblige you with a similar response. However, I'll let you get back to tucking your junk between your legs and modeling that new dress you made out of the skin of kidnapped fat chicks. Make sure your dog "Precious" doesn't choke on the chunky peanut butter you have it licking off of your balls.

You want to subsidize the poor....go ahead and good luck. Feed a stray cat, and it will return every day for your handout. But to expect, much less demand, me to give a flying fuck is simply asking too much.
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:Typical douchetard response. Can't win with a civil discourse, so resorts to the name-calling, pulling the race card, and "you're just wrong" backup plan.

Way to go, Skippy. I once heard you carried some weight around here with your liberal views, but your ability to make rational arguments is pretty poor. I had expected better, honestly.

Since you pulled the conk race card, I could oblige you with a similar response. However, I'll let you get back to tucking your junk between your legs and modeling that new dress you made out of the skin of kidnapped fat chicks. Make sure your dog "Precious" doesn't choke on the chunky peanut butter you have it licking off of your balls.

You want to subsidize the poor....go ahead and good luck. Feed a stray cat, and it will return every day for your handout. But to expect, much less demand, me to give a flying fuck is simply asking too much.
Jay, you don't have to give a fuck. You actually shouldn't, the poor aint your goddamn problem, politicians and the wealthy are. They're stealing a dollar for every dime to give to the poor.

Also, this ain't rational. No matter how much tough love you impose, there will be an underclass. We can vilify em and fuck them over like you advocate, or we can treat them as humans with the hope that they can be productive, know that a certain percentage never will. That's part of the price of a civil society.

The most peaceful and happy nations in the world are those that treat their poor with kindness and compassion.

Oh, nice smack attempt. :lol: I give it a 0 out of10. :thumb: Peanut butter on the balls, huh? :lol:
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I agree there will always be an underclass. However, I have no desire to make this section of society even larger than it already is. It should be a social stigma to not be able to support yourself, and there needs to be motivation to move above this status. Until it is made painful to be a piece of shit, people will allow themselves to become just that.

ANd if calling me a vagina is deemed good smack, I have some 3rd graders in my neighborhood that will rock your world.
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote: I have some 3rd graders in my neighborhood that will rock your world.
You have him confused with JSO..... :coffee:
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:I agree there will always be an underclass. However, I have no desire to make this section of society even larger than it already is. It should be a social stigma to not be able to support yourself, and there needs to be motivation to move above this status. Until it is made painful to be a piece of shit, people will allow themselves to become just that.

ANd if calling me a vagina is deemed good smack, I have some 3rd graders in my neighborhood that will rock your world.
What planet are you from? Being poor is just slightly better than being a sex offender. The poor are hated vehemently by society, as evidenced by this thread and your contributions to it.

Jay, I understand your hatred. What I don't understand is how vocal you are about it. You really shouldn't care. The problem of the undeserving poor, in the scope of the things, is right up there with dandelions and dog bites.

You want a world of few and deserving poor? Then quit voting republican. :thumb:
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When 48% of the american workforce pays no net federal income taxes, I care deeply. WIth no skin in the game, the underclass will always vote for more entitlements on the backs of folks like me.

Give me a f'n break about the stigma. When food stamps are replaced with debit cards to not "embarass" the tapeworms using them, I puke. Too bad that baby mama with 5 kids from 4 different fathers feels "bad" for pulling out food coupons to purchase pre-packaged meals for her bastards, and then pulls out the cash for her beer and cigs, while loudly running her bitch-ass mouth on her Droid while waiting in line.
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote: Way to go, Skippy. I once heard you carried some weight around here.....

Oh...............he still carries it..................
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:When 48% of the american workforce pays no net federal income taxes, I care deeply. WIth no skin in the game, the underclass will always vote for more entitlements on the backs of folks like me.

Give me a f'n break about the stigma. When food stamps are replaced with debit cards to not "embarass" the tapeworms using them, I puke. Too bad that baby mama with 5 kids from 4 different fathers feels "bad" for pulling out food coupons to purchase pre-packaged meals for her bastards, and then pulls out the cash for her beer and cigs, while loudly running her bitch-ass mouth on her Droid while waiting in line.

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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:When 48% of the american workforce pays no net federal income taxes, I care deeply. WIth no skin in the game, the underclass will always vote for more entitlements on the backs of folks like me.
Jay, seriously, what the fuck are the poor gonna do? They're stuck in low paying jobs or worse and the reality is they most likely always will be poor. They pay numerous other taxes too, so it aint a free ride.

We have been making strides towards accountability. Check out the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_R ... tunity_Act" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There aint $70,000 a year jobs for everyone. In capitalism, there will always be large percentage of poor. MOF, poverty and unemployment is essential to capitalism. That's the way it is.

You want to antagonize them and fuel revolution, I want to help them and keep them striving - or at least placate em. I'm right. It sucks, but I'm right. It aint rational, but I'm right. :thumb:
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:When 48% of the american workforce pays no net federal income taxes, I care deeply. WIth no skin in the game, the underclass will always vote for more entitlements on the backs of folks like me.

Give me a f'n break about the stigma. When food stamps are replaced with debit cards to not "embarass" the tapeworms using them, I puke. Too bad that baby mama with 5 kids from 4 different fathers feels "bad" for pulling out food coupons to purchase pre-packaged meals for her bastards, and then pulls out the cash for her beer and cigs, while loudly running her bitch-ass mouth on her Droid while waiting in line.
Racist stereotyping. The person(s) above don't exist in high enough numbers to be relevant. Again, you've been duped by politicians to believe the welfare queen myth so you wont notice them stealing your money for the wealthy. Actually, you appear to be so fucked that you probably don't mind them stealing your money, cuz it's goin to wealthy white folk. :thumb:
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:When 48% of the american workforce pays no net federal income taxes, I care deeply. WIth no skin in the game, the underclass will always vote for more entitlements on the backs of folks like me.
Jay, seriously, what the **** are the poor gonna do? They're stuck in low paying jobs or worse and the reality is they most likely always will be poor. They pay numerous other taxes too, so it aint a free ride.

We have been making strides towards accountability. Check out the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_R ... tunity_Act" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There aint $70,000 a year jobs for everyone. In capitalism, there will always be large percentage of poor. MOF, poverty and unemployment is essential to capitalism. That's the way it is.

You want to antagonize them and fuel revolution, I want to help them and keep them striving - or at least placate em. I'm right. It sucks, but I'm right. It aint rational, but I'm right. :thumb:
So you are saying that the majority of the poor are stuck in low-wage jobs? I'd contend that the majority of the poor ARE NOT working. There are many landscaping, food service, meat-processing, etc jobs currently filled by illegals that could and should be filled by our home-grown parasites.
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70% of african american children are born of wedlock. 70%...

That's not unfair stereotyping.
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D1B wrote:Racist stereotyping. The person(s) above don't exist in high enough numbers to be relevant. Again, you've been duped by politicians to believe the welfare queen myth so you wont notice them stealing your money for the wealthy. Actually, you appear to be so **** that you probably don't mind them stealing your money, cuz it's goin to wealthy white folk. :thumb:
Bullshit. Come to an East Coast Food Lion or Wal-Mart of your choice and smell reality. Its there everyday, and is ubiquitous.
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This is the shit you should be bitching about. :ohno:

This too:

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Get your shit straight Jay. :ohno:
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:
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Jay, seriously, what the **** are the poor gonna do? They're stuck in low paying jobs or worse and the reality is they most likely always will be poor. They pay numerous other taxes too, so it aint a free ride.

We have been making strides towards accountability. Check out the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_R ... tunity_Act" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There aint $70,000 a year jobs for everyone. In capitalism, there will always be large percentage of poor. MOF, poverty and unemployment is essential to capitalism. That's the way it is.

You want to antagonize them and fuel revolution, I want to help them and keep them striving - or at least placate em. I'm right. It sucks, but I'm right. It aint rational, but I'm right. :thumb:
So you are saying that the majority of the poor are stuck in low-wage jobs? I'd contend that the majority of the poor ARE NOT working. There are many landscaping, food service, meat-processing, etc jobs currently filled by illegals that could and should be filled by our home-grown parasites.
Every poor person I know is working. I know alot of poor people. Most poor who aint working are women with children. Many of them are victims of domestic violence and have been abandoned. They aint parasites, it's tough to make it the job market and take care of your kids. This is the reality. It is cheaper for you and I in the long run to help these women so their kids stay out of prison and the welfare system.

Again, it sucks, but I'm right. :thumb:
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