Wealth Gap Widens Between Whites And Minorities

[Skjellyfetti]

Cap, do you have some kind of "White Guilt" complex?

Says the guy that thinks this country is headed downhill because we have too many brown people....

What's that... a "White Pride" complex?

[AZGrizFan]

Cap, do you have some kind of "White Guilt" complex?

Says the guy that thinks this country is headed downhill because we have too many brown people....

What's that... a "White Pride" complex?

Is one somehow worse than the other?

[Skjellyfetti]

Is one somehow worse than the other?

Yes.

Want me to list all the atrocities committed with racism or belief if a "pure race" as a motivating factor? And then maybe you can list all the atrocities committed where "guilt" was a motivating factor. Guilt doesn't cause harm. Racism does.

[AZGrizFan]

Is one somehow worse than the other?

Yes.

Want me to list all the atrocities committed with racism or belief if a "pure race" as a motivating factor? And then maybe you can list all the atrocities committed where "guilt" was a motivating factor. Guilt doesn't cause harm. Racism does.

I disagree. Guilt causes irreparable harm by making Whites do things they normally wouldn't (and in many cases shouldn't) do and make decisions and create programs they otherwise wouldn't create...see the entire entitlement mentality complex our country is struggling from as just one small example... Our "guilt" has led to an entire generation of people who feel it's their god-given right to be taken care of by the federal government, resulting in a financial burden that this country will be damned lucky to recover from at this point.

[citdog]

Cap, do you have some kind of "White Guilt" complex?

No, but he probably does understand White Privilege.

You must indoctrinate our youth with your pinko, leftist, Mao the pedophile little red book worshipping, mummified Lenin schmeckle nuzziling FAILURE of a worldview in the Omaha, Nebraska school system which spent like 50k taxpayer dollars for a whole program on that pc doublespeak bullshit.

You have FUCKING ruined a whole generation of people with your forced busing, racial quota's in public schools and in admissions to higher education and teaching the "evil white man" doctrine of history. You have attempted to dishonor George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, and even General Robert Edward Lee as evil slaveowning monsters. You have elevated characters who did nothing to deserve it and attempted to make them into GODS OF VIRTUE that are beyond reproach. In short most of the problems in the 'late united states' can be placed directly at your feet. When you teach a whole generation of children that by having pride in the achievements of their own people is somehow RACIST but is something to be CELEBRATED in others is responsible for these same kids knowing LITTLE and caring LESS.

[kalm]

1. Don't take my shit seriously.
2. Also sodomy.

Classic answer, Socrates.

He got that shit wrong?

[kalm]

And this group, in spite of this inequity and the failure of their annointed one to remedy it, will re-elect BO in '12.

Just as the liberals cynical plans for self-perpetuation calls for, discourage minorities from believing that they have the talents and ability to succeed without government aid, run poor schools where the minorities live so they don't get the education needed to succeed, but rather a poor PC filled indoctrination, hook more and more by continually expanding aid, create fear of losing their aid if liberals aren't elected, once minorities believe that the only course of action for them is government aid, then begin a campaign to create a belief that those receiving aid are entitled to the same quality of living as those who provide the aid through paying taxes, which in turn leads to a socialist revolution...

"Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." - Alexis de Tocqueville

Oh good god.

Will it be an islmofascio socialist revolution?

Has de Tocqueville never heard of Denmark?

[Skjellyfetti]

I disagree. Guilt causes irreparable harm by making Whites do things they normally wouldn't (and in many cases shouldn't) do and make decisions and create programs they otherwise wouldn't create...see the entire entitlement mentality complex our country is struggling from as just one small example... Our "guilt" has led to an entire generation of people who feel it's their god-given right to be taken care of by the federal government, resulting in a financial burden that this country will be damned lucky to recover from at this point.

And you think an "entitlement mentality" is as bad as genocide, Jim Crow, terrorism, etc?

You also think that "white guilt" led FDR to create social security, unemployment, AFDC? Interesting.

[ASUG8]

Here's an example of either being hyperaware of emerging demographics or simple political correctness:

In the Ultimate Universe of Marvel Comics, Peter Parker -- the original alter ego of Spider-Man -- is dead, and his replacement is a half-African-American, half-Latino teenager named Miles Morales.

"When the opportunity arose to create a new Spider-Man, we knew it had to be a character that represents the diversity -- in background and experience -- of the 21st century," Alonso said. "We have a president of mixed heritage; in fact, I'm of mixed heritage, this is just the world we live in," he continued.

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[AZGrizFan]

I disagree. Guilt causes irreparable harm by making Whites do things they normally wouldn't (and in many cases shouldn't) do and make decisions and create programs they otherwise wouldn't create...see the entire entitlement mentality complex our country is struggling from as just one small example... Our "guilt" has led to an entire generation of people who feel it's their god-given right to be taken care of by the federal government, resulting in a financial burden that this country will be damned lucky to recover from at this point.

And you think an "entitlement mentality" is as bad as genocide, Jim Crow, terrorism, etc?

You also think that "white guilt" led FDR to create social security, unemployment, AFDC? Interesting.

No, I think it's morphed into that as white guilt reared its head and we became a more politically correct society. There wasn't much white guilt in 1945 but there sure as fuck is now. And when the entitlement mentality threatens to bring down the entire country then yes, it's worse than Jim Crow and terrorism.

[AZGrizFan]

Here's an example of either being hyperaware of emerging demographics or simple political correctness:

In the Ultimate Universe of Marvel Comics, Peter Parker -- the original alter ego of Spider-Man -- is dead, and his replacement is a half-African-American, half-Latino teenager named Miles Morales.

"When the opportunity arose to create a new Spider-Man, we knew it had to be a character that represents the diversity -- in background and experience -- of the 21st century," Alonso said. "We have a president of mixed heritage; in fact, I'm of mixed heritage, this is just the world we live in," he continued.

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This. And it's absolutely KILLING America.

[Skjellyfetti]

No, I think it's morphed into that as white guilt reared its head and we became a more politically correct society. There wasn't much white guilt in 1945 but there sure as fuck is now. And when the entitlement mentality threatens to bring down the entire country then yes, it's worse than Jim Crow and terrorism.

Interesting way to phrase it. We've become a more "political correct" society since 1945. Hmmm. Seems to me we've become more egalitarian as a society.

There was less white guilt in 1945 because it was the norm to isolate and disenfranchise minorities. Nothing to feel guilty about.



Let's look at some of the major developments in race relations since 1945.

1948- desegregation of the military begins
1952- Brown v. Board decision
1955- Rosa Parks refuses to give up her seat. Montgomery bus boycotts begin.
1957- federal troops sent to Arkansas to force school to allow blacks to enter
1960- sit-in at Woolrich lunch counter in Greensboro, NC
1961- "freedom riders"
1962- first black student enrolls at Ole Miss. Riots ensue.
1963- Martin Luther King's "Letter From Birmingham Jail", Medgar Evers murdered, King's "I Have A Dream" speech, 4 girls blown up in bomb planted at black Birmingham church
1964- 24th amendment-- poll tax abolished, Civil Rights Act,
1965- March from Selma to Montgomery-- "Bloody Sunday", Voting Rights Act
1967- Supreme Court rules laws against interracial marriage are unconstitutional
1968- Civil Rights Act, King murdered
1988- Civil Rights Restoration Act
1991- Civil Rights Act of 1991, signed by HW Bush

You can view that as a gradual progression toward a more "politically correct" society if you wish. What of those steps do you disagree with? All of it?

[AZGrizFan]

Let's look at some of the major developments in race relations since 1945.

1948- desegregation of the military begins
1952- Brown v. Board decision
1955- Rosa Parks refuses to give up her seat. Montgomery bus boycotts begin.
1957- federal troops sent to Arkansas to force school to allow blacks to enter
1960- sit-in at Woolrich lunch counter in Greensboro, NC
1961- "freedom riders"
1962- first black student enrolls at Ole Miss. Riots ensue.
1963- Martin Luther King's "Letter From Birmingham Jail", Medgar Evers murdered, King's "I Have A Dream" speech, 4 girls blown up in bomb planted at black Birmingham church
1964- 24th amendment-- poll tax abolished, Civil Rights Act,
1965- March from Selma to Montgomery-- "Bloody Sunday", Voting Rights Act
1967- Supreme Court rules laws against interracial marriage are unconstitutional
1968- Civil Rights Act, King murdered
1988- Civil Rights Restoration Act
1991- Civil Rights Act of 1991, signed by HW Bush

You can view that as a gradual progression toward a more "politically correct" society if you wish. What of those steps do you disagree with? All of it?

Are these all a result of white guilt? Is that what you're implying?

I've not said I disagree with any of these...

[Skjellyfetti]

Are these all a result of white guilt? Is that what you're implying?

I've not said I disagree with any of these...

No. They aren't a result of white guilt.

You must have skipped over this:

There was less white guilt in 1945 because it was the norm to isolate and disenfranchise minorities. Nothing to feel guilty about.

You've said we've become a more "politically correct" society since 1945. That's when the civil rights movement started... a generation of soldiers came back from fighting a brutal war for their country... and thought they deserved to be treated as equal citizens. We've been on a gradual movement towards a more egalitarian society since 1945. I figured the whole "civil rights movement" would have been a part of your opinion that we've become more politically correct and white guilt has become pervasive since 1945.

Yeah, institutional racism is no longer tolerated. But, that doesn't mean we're a politically correct society.

Oh yeah, Spiderman now has brown skin so you may have a point.

[AZGrizFan]

Are these all a result of white guilt? Is that what you're implying?

I've not said I disagree with any of these...

No. They aren't a result of white guilt.

You must have skipped over this:

There was less white guilt in 1945 because it was the norm to isolate and disenfranchise minorities. Nothing to feel guilty about.

You've said we've become a more "politically correct" society since 1945. That's when the civil rights movement started... a generation of soldiers came back from fighting a brutal war for their country... and thought they deserved to be treated as equal citizens. We've been on a gradual movement towards a more egalitarian society since 1945. I figured the whole "civil rights movement" would have been a part of your opinion that we've become more politically correct and white guilt has become pervasive since 1945.

Yeah, institutional racism is no longer tolerated. But, that doesn't mean we're a politically correct society.
Oh yeah, Spiderman now has brown skin so you may have a point.

Oh, please.
Denial is a river in Egypt.

[Baldy]

I'M A DOUCHEY SPAM BOT

Fucking Bots.

[mrklean]

No, I think it's morphed into that as white guilt reared its head and we became a more politically correct society. There wasn't much white guilt in 1945 but there sure as **** is now. And when the entitlement mentality threatens to bring down the entire country then yes, it's worse than Jim Crow and terrorism.

Interesting way to phrase it. We've become a more "political correct" society since 1945. Hmmm. Seems to me we've become more egalitarian as a society.

There was less white guilt in 1945 because it was the norm to isolate and disenfranchise minorities. Nothing to feel guilty about.



Let's look at some of the major developments in race relations since 1945.

1948- desegregation of the military begins
1952- Brown v. Board decision
1955- Rosa Parks refuses to give up her seat. Montgomery bus boycotts begin.
1957- federal troops sent to Arkansas to force school to allow blacks to enter
1960- sit-in at Woolrich lunch counter in Greensboro, NC
1961- "freedom riders"
1962- first black student enrolls at Ole Miss. Riots ensue.
1963- Martin Luther King's "Letter From Birmingham Jail", Medgar Evers murdered, King's "I Have A Dream" speech, 4 girls blown up in bomb planted at black Birmingham church
1964- 24th amendment-- poll tax abolished, Civil Rights Act,
1965- March from Selma to Montgomery-- "Bloody Sunday", Voting Rights Act
1967- Supreme Court rules laws against interracial marriage are unconstitutional
1968- Civil Rights Act, King murdered
1988- Civil Rights Restoration Act
1991- Civil Rights Act of 1991, signed by HW Bush

You can view that as a gradual progression toward a more "politically correct" society if you wish. What of those steps do you disagree with? All of it?

You can only screw people for so long. Look what happen in Russia in 1917. So a change had to come. BUt I think its White Guilt.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

[CID1990]

You guys are all a bunch of idiots.


Sent from the center of the universe.

[mrklean]

You guys are all a bunch of idiots.


Sent from the center of the universe.

We hear that alot

[Gil Dobie]

Cap, do you have some kind of "White Guilt" complex?

Might be a recovering Catholic

[DSUrocks07]

Meh...I'm doing alright.

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[JohnStOnge]

As always wealth gaps are not the way to judge whether or not people are making progress. Look at what their median weatlh level was in 1995 and what it is now. If it's higher now than it was in 1995 in inflation adjusted terms they're better off.

[JohnStOnge]

1964- 24th amendment-- poll tax abolished, Civil Rights Act,
1965- March from Selma to Montgomery-- "Bloody Sunday", Voting Rights Act
1967- Supreme Court rules laws against interracial marriage are unconstitutional
1968- Civil Rights Act, King murdered
1988- Civil Rights Restoration Act
1991- Civil Rights Act of 1991, signed by HW Bush

You can view that as a gradual progression toward a more "politically correct" society if you wish. What of those steps do you disagree with?

I disagree with some of the requirements of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I think that people have a right to dsicriminate on the basis of anything they want to discriminate on. Not talking about government. If you say government must not discriminate on the basis of race or anything else that's fine.

But whey you say that someone who owns a business can't associate with or not associate with anyone he or she chooses to associate with or not associate with on any basis they want...including race...you are going too far. You are denying liberty. Same with hiring. A private business should be free to hire, not hire, or fire anyone it chooses to hire, not hire, or fire for any reason at all without government
interference.

No one has a legitimate right to make anyone else like them, accept them, respect them, or deal with them. Who you like, accept, respect, or deal with should be completely up to you.

[mrklean]

1964- 24th amendment-- poll tax abolished, Civil Rights Act,
1965- March from Selma to Montgomery-- "Bloody Sunday", Voting Rights Act
1967- Supreme Court rules laws against interracial marriage are unconstitutional
1968- Civil Rights Act, King murdered
1988- Civil Rights Restoration Act
1991- Civil Rights Act of 1991, signed by HW Bush

You can view that as a gradual progression toward a more "politically correct" society if you wish. What of those steps do you disagree with?

I disagree with some of the requirements of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I think that people have a right to dsicriminate on the basis of anything they want to discriminate on. Not talking about government. If you say government must not discriminate on the basis of race or anything else that's fine.

But whey you say that someone who owns a business can't associate with or not associate with anyone he or she chooses to associate with or not associate with on any basis they want...including race...you are going too far. You are denying liberty. Same with hiring. A private business should be free to hire, not hire, or fire anyone it chooses to hire, not hire, or fire for any reason at all without government
interference.

No one has a legitimate right to make anyone else like them, accept them, respect them, or deal with them. Who you like, accept, respect, or deal with should be completely up to you.

Its been tried, and 6 million jews died doing this. I have to respect you in the Public/Government setting but I cant disrecpect in a privae setting