John Lennon Outgrew Liberalism

[D1B]

"When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life." -- John Lennon.

Yep, Lennon was a smart man. Interesting how this is the exact opposite of christian/catholic dogma that reveres suffering and treats it as a virtue.

That cunt Mother Theresa withheld treatment from the dying in her "hospices" because she believed suffering brought people closer to god. She was one of the great world wide villians of our age - right up there with Stalin, Hitler, Pope Benedict, The Catholic Church and Ronald Reagan.

She raked in tens of millions for the catholic church, yet her patients suffered in utter squalor. That image of Cunt Theresa supposedly administering to the poor in Calcutta was marketing gold. It was the catholic church's Marlboro logo.

[AZGrizFan]

"When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life." -- John Lennon.

Yep, Lennon was a smart man. Interesting how this is the exact opposite of christian/catholic dogma that reveres suffering and treats it as a virtue.

That cunt Mother Theresa withheld treatment from the dying in her "hospices" because she believed suffering brought people closer to god. She was one of the great world wide villians of our age - right up there with Stalin, Hitler, Pope Benedict, The Catholic Church and Ronald Reagan.

She raked in tens of millions for the catholic church, yet her patients suffered in utter squalor. That image of Cunt Theresa supposedly administering to the poor in Calcutta was marketing gold. It was the catholic church's Marlboro logo.

Lennon was a fraud when he was alive, and now a fraud when he's dead. And his music sucked then and it sucks now. He's like the milli-vanilli of the hippy crowd.

[JoltinJoe]

"When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life." -- John Lennon.

Yep, Lennon was a smart man. Interesting how this is the exact opposite of christian/catholic dogma that reveres suffering and treats it as a virtue.

That kitty Mother Theresa withheld treatment from the dying in her "hospices" because she believed suffering brought people closer to god. She was one of the great world wide villians of our age - right up there with Stalin, Hitler, Pope Benedict, The Catholic Church and Ronald Reagan.

She raked in tens of millions for the catholic church, yet her patients suffered in utter squalor. That image of kitty Theresa supposedly administering to the poor in Calcutta was marketing gold. It was the catholic church's Marlboro logo.

Geez, for a guy who grew up Catholic, you really missed a lot things.

Christianity doesn't "revere" suffering or treat it as a "virtue." What it does teach is that suffering is part of the human condition and it can help us grow closer to truths, become more empathetic of others who are suffering, and deepen our understanding of our own humanity. Suffering can help us become better people, more receptive and generous to others, especially those who are suffering or in need.

It's not that suffering is to be embraced; it's simply that it is not to be avoided at all costs. When you gain that understanding, it is even possible to experience suffering and still be happy, at the same time.

[JoltinJoe]

Joe, what "god" did Lennon believe in? Was it the christian god, or was he like most in that he believed in a higher power but aint stupid or arrogant enough to claim he knows exactly what it is?

Jesus died for our sins.

I don't know what God he believed in. I would have loved to have the chance to kick the idea around with him, like we've had the last number of years. He was only 40 years old when he died. Whatever he was thinking at the time, I'd guess that God saw him in the distance trying to find his way home, and ran all the way out to greet him -- as explained in the Prodigal Son, one of Christ's parables that Lennon said he was beginning to grasp shortly before he died.

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“Some of [Christ's parables] are only making sense to me now, after a whole life of sitting in church or school. It was just moany, moany, moany for years, and then I hear it again and I think, God, that’s what he means.” -- John Lennon

[JoltinJoe]

You know, I don't know if some of the younger guys here know that, prior to 1980's Double Fantasy album, John Lennon had pretty much been out of the public eye for nearly six years. He released no new music and voluntarily retreated from the public eye -- no interviews, no public appearances. He wrote a song about his "exile" from the big time to explain what he had been doing.

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For D1B -- note his reference to Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

[BlueHen86]

The that you ended your post with speaks volumes.

It did, Mr. Mallet.

Quoting me from another thread. You may not be following me, but you are stalking me. I'm flattered.

[bulldog10jw]

You know, I don't know if some of the younger guys here know that, prior to 1980's Double Fantasy album, John Lennon had pretty much been out of the public eye for nearly six years. He released no new music and voluntarily retreated from the public eye -- no interviews, no public appearances. He wrote a song about his "exile" from the big time to explain what he had been doing.

Too bad he wasted half the album on Yoko songs

[JoltinJoe]

You know, I don't know if some of the younger guys here know that, prior to 1980's Double Fantasy album, John Lennon had pretty much been out of the public eye for nearly six years. He released no new music and voluntarily retreated from the public eye -- no interviews, no public appearances. He wrote a song about his "exile" from the big time to explain what he had been doing.

Too bad he wasted half the album on Yoko songs

LOL. How true. We used to call the "Double Fantasy" album "Half a Nightmare."

A perfect album for Itunes, though.

[YoUDeeMan]

It did, Mr. Mallet.

Quoting me from another thread. You may not be following me, but you are stalking me. I'm flattered.

Don't be. Opie thought people were stalking him also.

[BlueHen86]

Quoting me from another thread. You may not be following me, but you are stalking me. I'm flattered.

Don't be. Opie thought people were stalking him also.

I wasn't really, not because of Opie, but because of you.

[YoUDeeMan]

Don't be. Opie thought people were stalking him also.

I wasn't really, not because of Opie, but because of you.

This is a dumb thing to argue about, which is why I love this site.

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[Wedgebuster]

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[native]

What is your point? Also, aren't the Stones still around?

The problem is that it has been perpetuated for years that Lennon was a liberal, when in fact he was conservative.

Only NOW is it problem.

Let me sum it up nicely for you:

Not to sound like a bitter dick, but it looks as if the liberal offense was not ready for the mythical Lennon to switch sides and crush 40.2 million hippies hearts and vinyl collections with one swift blow.

Might have crushed the liberal hippie hearts, but the art that was on the vinyl will last pretty dang close to forever.

[Purple For Life]

I just think this guy saying these things is out for a quick buck and a minute in the sun.

[Cap'n Cat]

Lennon was a fraud when he was alive, and now a fraud when he's dead. And his music sucked then and it sucks now. He's like the milli-vanilli of the hippy crowd.

But....................

[89Hen]

Holy crap, he's been dead for 30 years. This is relevant how?

I think Hitler would have outgrown fascism had he been given time.

Lennon died 30 years ago and the writer only now is figuring out that Lennon outgrew liberalism (allegedly)

And I'm supposed to care why?

I dare you to say it a third time.