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Skjellyfetti wrote:If Rick Perry is the nominee... Obama can donate half his war chest to charity and coast to victory. :coffee:
I wouldn't say that. As a Civil Libertarian and economic realist, I'd rather vote for Perry. Sure he's what would be considered a religious right nutjub, but when you look past that he's got great credibility. He's been the governor of one of the most populous and economically thriving states in the union for a decade. He's got more credentials than Obama did that's for sure and other than the religious aspects I think he's a great candidate.

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youngterrier wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:If Rick Perry is the nominee... Obama can donate half his war chest to charity and coast to victory. :coffee:
I wouldn't say that. As a Civil Libertarian and economic realist, I'd rather vote for Perry. Sure he's what would be considered a religious right nutjub, but when you look past that he's got great credibility. He's been the governor of one of the most populous and economically thriving states in the union for a decade. He's got more credentials than Obama did that's for sure and other than the religious aspects I think he's a great candidate.
Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? :? :? :?
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youngterrier wrote: I wouldn't say that. As a Civil Libertarian and economic realist, I'd rather vote for Perry. Sure he's what would be considered a religious right nutjub, but when you look past that he's got great credibility. He's been the governor of one of the most populous and economically thriving states in the union for a decade. He's got more credentials than Obama did that's for sure and other than the religious aspects I think he's a great candidate.
Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? :? :? :?
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youngterrier wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:If Rick Perry is the nominee... Obama can donate half his war chest to charity and coast to victory. :coffee:
I wouldn't say that. As a Civil Libertarian and economic realist, I'd rather vote for Perry. Sure he's what would be considered a religious right nutjub, but when you look past that he's got great credibility. He's been the governor of one of the most populous and economically thriving states in the union for a decade. He's got more credentials than Obama did that's for sure and other than the religious aspects I think he's a great candidate.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
youngterrier wrote: I wouldn't say that. As a Civil Libertarian and economic realist, I'd rather vote for Perry. Sure he's what would be considered a religious right nutjub, but when you look past that he's got great credibility. He's been the governor of one of the most populous and economically thriving states in the union for a decade. He's got more credentials than Obama did that's for sure and other than the religious aspects I think he's a great candidate.
Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? :? :? :?
all I'm saying is that in comparison, he has less personal baggage than Obama and way more credentials.
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youngterrier wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? :? :? :?
all I'm saying is that in comparison, he has less personal baggage than Obama and way more credentials.

Way more credentials? Has he ever been President? :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
youngterrier wrote: all I'm saying is that in comparison, he has less personal baggage than Obama and way more credentials.

Way more credentials? Has he ever been President? :coffee:
No but he's a tad bit slow and from Texas. I think that makes him qualified.
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kalm wrote:
houndawg wrote:

Way more credentials? Has he ever been President? :coffee:
No but he's a tad bit slow and from Texas. I think that makes him qualified.
Just like LBJ, :coffee:
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Ivytalk wrote:
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No but he's a tad bit slow and from Texas. I think that makes him qualified.
Just like LBJ, :coffee:
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Appaholic wrote:Great....another TX Governor riding in to save the day carrying a cross & wrapped in the flag....I swear, if you remove the BS from a Texan, you could bury them in matchboxes....Rick Perry = all hat, no cattle...


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Ivytalk wrote:
youngterrier wrote: I wouldn't say that. As a Civil Libertarian and economic realist, I'd rather vote for Perry. Sure he's what would be considered a religious right nutjub, but when you look past that he's got great credibility. He's been the governor of one of the most populous and economically thriving states in the union for a decade. He's got more credentials than Obama did that's for sure and other than the religious aspects I think he's a great candidate.
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houndawg wrote:
youngterrier wrote: all I'm saying is that in comparison, he has less personal baggage than Obama and way more credentials.

Way more credentials? Has he ever been President? :coffee:
WEll, the office has already been vacant for 2 years....
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youngterrier wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? :? :? :?
all I'm saying is that in comparison, he has less personal baggage than Obama and way more credentials.
YT, he is up against an Incumbent. The record is in favor of Obama. Out of the 44 presidents, only 4 incumbents have lost.

Regan defeated Jimmy Carter in 1980
Clinton defeated George H.W Bush in 1992
Wilson defeated William Taft was defeated in 1916
Jimmy Carter defeated Gerald Ford in 1976

Obama has a good, solid chance and the GOP has to put up some serious, new muscle. The old guard won't cut it. It's going to take a fresher face and indivdual to go against Obama. Obama has his hurdles to cross, no doubt, but has a tremendous advantage. :twocents:
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Re: Rick Perry

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Ibanez wrote:
youngterrier wrote: all I'm saying is that in comparison, he has less personal baggage than Obama and way more credentials.
YT, he is up against an Incumbent. The record is in favor of Obama. Out of the 44 presidents, only 4 incumbents have lost.

Regan defeated Jimmy Carter in 1980
Clinton defeated George H.W Bush in 1992
Wilson defeated William Taft was defeated in 1916
Jimmy Carter defeated Gerald Ford in 1976

Obama has a good, solid chance and the GOP has to put up some serious, new muscle. The old guard won't cut it. It's going to take a fresher face and indivdual to go against Obama. Obama has his hurdles to cross, no doubt, but has a tremendous advantage. :twocents:
true true.....but you forgot about Adams I, Adams II, Van Buren, Cleveland, Harrison, and Hoover all lost reelection as incumbents, Johnson practically lost reelection as well. Not to mention the mishaps with WHH/JT, Zack Taylor/MF, Andrew Johnson (taking over for Lincoln), Garfield/Arthur, and Harding dying in office.

So the president generally does have an advantage generally, but it's not as great as you originally stated.
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youngterrier wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
YT, he is up against an Incumbent. The record is in favor of Obama. Out of the 44 presidents, only 4 incumbents have lost.

Regan defeated Jimmy Carter in 1980
Clinton defeated George H.W Bush in 1992
Wilson defeated William Taft was defeated in 1916
Jimmy Carter defeated Gerald Ford in 1976

Obama has a good, solid chance and the GOP has to put up some serious, new muscle. The old guard won't cut it. It's going to take a fresher face and indivdual to go against Obama. Obama has his hurdles to cross, no doubt, but has a tremendous advantage. :twocents:
true true.....but you forgot about Adams I, Adams II, Van Buren, Cleveland, Harrison, and Hoover all lost reelection as incumbents, Johnson practically lost reelection as well. Not to mention the mishaps with WHH/JT, Zack Taylor/MF, Andrew Johnson (taking over for Lincoln), Garfield/Arthur, and Harding dying in office.

I should've stated in recent history. I stand corrected.

So the president generally does have an advantage generally, but it's not as great as you originally stated.
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Ibanez wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
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We won't get what we need, a true statesman. Who was the last Virginian to be President? Let's get one of them in office.
Wilson? Just a guess. I believe he was born in VA but became governor of NJ.

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