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Re: SCOTUS orders CA to Release 36,000 FELONS!!!

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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:California VOTERS did this to themselves. this is what governance via ballot measure gets you. it's very easy to put a ballot measure up that says "more and longer jail terms!" "more funding for after-school programs!" "i don't wanna pay any taxes ever!"... what you end up with is two things... politicians who have completely abdicated any sense of leadership or responsibility, because when they do make hard choices, they are met with recalls... and state budget so completely fucked that virtually nothing will bring it back from the precipice.

A brilliant case-study in why direct democracy doesn't work at all.
You gotta be kidding!

The decades-entrenched Leftislature out here hasn't passed anything of significance in decades. Mention "reform", and you'll be wisked away never to be seen or heard from again. Thankfully, CA has the initiative process which is THE ONLY AVENUE available to Californian's to clean up the governmental refuse left behind by our Leftislature's ill-thought social engineering schemes.
Industry (read "tax base") has been fleeing the state for the past 26 years, primarily a result of the Leftislature's short-sighted, heavy-handed taxation and regulation. It's 100% political. Shit on business, take their money, buy a vote with a govt. handout.
So long as those purchased voters continue to gullibly swallow the shit fed to them by the Donks, California will continue to flounder in distress: Voters demanding on secure neighborhoods, while our Leftislature parades cuts to public safety and corrections, while hiding the other 60% of the pie behind their back, selfishly protected for targeted purchased vote programs (entitlements) and "special projects" politically engineered to preserve the Donk's stranglehold on CA's legislative reach.

...ya know, ttbf, the CA dems attract political hit men like dogs attract fleas. If you're still looking for work...
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travelinman67 wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:California VOTERS did this to themselves. this is what governance via ballot measure gets you. it's very easy to put a ballot measure up that says "more and longer jail terms!" "more funding for after-school programs!" "i don't wanna pay any taxes ever!"... what you end up with is two things... politicians who have completely abdicated any sense of leadership or responsibility, because when they do make hard choices, they are met with recalls... and state budget so completely **** that virtually nothing will bring it back from the precipice.

A brilliant case-study in why direct democracy doesn't work at all.
You gotta be kidding!

The decades-entrenched Leftislature out here hasn't passed anything of significance in decades. Mention "reform", and you'll be wisked away never to be seen or heard from again. Thankfully, CA has the initiative process which is THE ONLY AVENUE available to Californian's to clean up the governmental refuse left behind by our Leftislature's ill-thought social engineering schemes.
Industry (read "tax base") has been fleeing the state for the past 26 years, primarily a result of the Leftislature's short-sighted, heavy-handed taxation and regulation. It's 100% political. **** on business, take their money, buy a vote with a govt. handout.
So long as those purchased voters continue to gullibly swallow the **** fed to them by the Donks,California will continue to flounder in distress: Voters demanding on secure neighborhoods, while our Leftislature parades cuts to public safety and corrections, while hiding the other 60% of the pie behind their back, selfishly protected for targeted purchased vote programs (entitlements) and "special projects" politically engineered to preserve the Donk's stranglehold on CA's legislative reach.

...ya know, ttbf, the CA dems attract political hit men like dogs attract fleas. If you're still looking for work...

1) The FBI says violent crime in CA has been decreasing since '06. :coffee:

2) Good to see you sticking up fur the corrections unions T'man. Now there's some boys making some jack with no education... :thumb:
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Re: SCOTUS orders CA to Release 36,000 FELONS!!!

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Col Hogan wrote:Maybe we should build a wall around California...thousands and thousands of FELONS will be on the street due to a Supreme Court order... :ohno:
It is one of the largest prison release orders in the nation's history, and it sharply split the high court.

Justices upheld an order from a three-judge panel in California that called for releasing 38,000 to 46,000 prisoners. Since then, the state has transferred about 9,000 state inmates to county jails. As a result, the total prison population is now about 32,000 more than the capacity limit set by the panel.

Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, speaking for the majority, said California's prisons had "fallen short of minimum constitutional requirements" because of overcrowding. As many as 200 prisoners may live in gymnasium, he said, and as many as 54 prisoners share a single toilet.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/sc-dc ... 7401.story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There is one left wing city in California where the mayor recently ordered the police to not use ANY FORCE in arresting "alleged criminals"... maybe they can settle there... :dunce:

Some christian you are. Asshole conk who villifies the poor and shows a barbaric lack of compassion for those who have lost their way and are suffering in overcrowded prisons. :ohno:

Fucking pompous ass hypocrit. :tothehand:

Have fun in hell motherfucker. :nod:
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houndawg wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
You gotta be kidding!

The decades-entrenched Leftislature out here hasn't passed anything of significance in decades. Mention "reform", and you'll be wisked away never to be seen or heard from again. Thankfully, CA has the initiative process which is THE ONLY AVENUE available to Californian's to clean up the governmental refuse left behind by our Leftislature's ill-thought social engineering schemes.
Industry (read "tax base") has been fleeing the state for the past 26 years, primarily a result of the Leftislature's short-sighted, heavy-handed taxation and regulation. It's 100% political. **** on business, take their money, buy a vote with a govt. handout.
So long as those purchased voters continue to gullibly swallow the **** fed to them by the Donks,California will continue to flounder in distress: Voters demanding on secure neighborhoods, while our Leftislature parades cuts to public safety and corrections, while hiding the other 60% of the pie behind their back, selfishly protected for targeted purchased vote programs (entitlements) and "special projects" politically engineered to preserve the Donk's stranglehold on CA's legislative reach.

...ya know, ttbf, the CA dems attract political hit men like dogs attract fleas. If you're still looking for work...

1) The FBI says violent crime in CA has been decreasing since '06. :coffee:

2) Good to see you sticking up fur the corrections unions T'man. Now there's some boys making some jack with no education... :thumb:
1) More criminals going to prison = lower violent crime rate. :o

...must be a coincidential correlation.

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D1B wrote:...for those who have lost their way and are suffering in overcrowded prisons.
Shows how little you know about CA corrections.

CA prisoners have better diet, healthcare (complete with dental and vision) and living conditions than most sub-$45k income families.

They have free access to education, libraries (including internet), are provided paying jobs during their incarceration, state-paid spiritual advisers, a living stipend and further job training once released...

...basically, everything a law-abiding, honest, hard working person wishes they could afford, or slaves around the clock to provide.

Much of this "conditions" hoopla arose from a prisoner's rights group objecting to locating prisons in the central valley, near farming. They sued, claiming the prisoners' health was jeopardized by their exposure to mold-carrying airborn dirt and dust resulting from farming. They cited a health study of Avenal and Pleasant Valley prisons and the frequency of "Valley Fever" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioid ... te_note-11. After years of trying, that suit never gained traction, principally because the inmates complaint ignored the contra indicator that millions of non-incarcerated Californians lived in the central valley and were exposed to the same levels of coccidioidomycosis as the prisoners...and have been for centuries...yet the frequency of illness due to exposure had never before been documented as a major health risk. After years of trying to push this bitch through, the prisoner's rights groups dropped it and moved on to more fertile ground, overcrowding.

It's all bullshit.

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D1B wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:Maybe we should build a wall around California...thousands and thousands of FELONS will be on the street due to a Supreme Court order... :ohno:



http://www.latimes.com/news/local/sc-dc ... 7401.story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There is one left wing city in California where the mayor recently ordered the police to not use ANY FORCE in arresting "alleged criminals"... maybe they can settle there... :dunce:

Some christian you are. Asshole conk who villifies the poor and shows a barbaric lack of compassion for those who have lost their way and are suffering in overcrowded prisons. :ohno:

Fucking pompous ass hypocrit. :tothehand:

Have fun in hell motherfucker. :nod:
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Yep Z, me and Jesus. :nod:

Read the bible you atheist.
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Yeah Tman. :ohno:
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travelinman67 wrote: Sidebar: The increase in violent crime in CA since the economy went into the shitter has been VERY NOTABLE. Homicides, drive-by's, stabbings, assault with deadly weapons...all have escalated. ...........I've never seen anything like this. I've had a CCW most of my life, but have rarely carried: If things continue to deteriorate out here, that may change.
Changed your mind since page 1, have you?



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Which story are you going with? "More people behind bars equals lower violent crime rate" or "homicides, drive-bys, stabbings,ADW.....all have escalated"?


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travelinman67 wrote:
houndawg wrote:

1) The FBI says violent crime in CA has been decreasing since '06. :coffee:

2) Good to see you sticking up fur the corrections unions T'man. Now there's some boys making some jack with no education... :thumb:
1)More criminals going to prison = lower violent crime rate. :o

...must be a coincidential correlation.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Since when do federal judges have the authority to run state penal systems? Really, its none of the fed govt's business how CA runs their penal system.
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