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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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I love this.

Last week everyone thought Holy Cross sucked and would get blown out.

Instead Weber, Eastern Ill, and MCNeese got crushed and Holy Cross played a very good and competitive game vs. Nova.

But the PL doesnt have a shot in the playoffs :lol:. Anybody think Holy Cross wouldnt beat Weber and Eastern Ill after the terrible showing they put up on Saturday?
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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Franks Tanks wrote:I love this.

Last week everyone thought Holy Cross sucked and would get blown out.

Instead Weber, Eastern Ill, and MCNeese got crushed and Holy Cross played a very good and competitive game vs. Nova.

But the PL doesnt have a shot in the playoffs :lol:. Anybody think Holy Cross wouldnt beat Weber and Eastern Ill after the terrible showing they put up on Saturday?
HC would have beat EIU by 10+ and likely WSU by 6
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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clenz wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:I love this.

Last week everyone thought Holy Cross sucked and would get blown out.

Instead Weber, Eastern Ill, and MCNeese got crushed and Holy Cross played a very good and competitive game vs. Nova.

But the PL doesnt have a shot in the playoffs :lol:. Anybody think Holy Cross wouldnt beat Weber and Eastern Ill after the terrible showing they put up on Saturday?
HC would have beat EIU by 10+ and likely WSU by 6
Thank you.

I fully understand that the PL is not the best conference in FCS and in most years the PL champ will not beat the CAA champs. However the PL and PL champs can certainly compete in the FCS and do well and beat teams out of the OVC, MEAC, and teams like Weber who were last one's in.
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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Franks Tanks wrote:
clenz wrote: HC would have beat EIU by 10+ and likely WSU by 6
Thank you.

I fully understand that the PL is not the best conference in FCS and in most years the PL champ will not beat the CAA champs. However the PL and PL champs can certainly compete in the FCS and do well and beat teams out of the OVC, MEAC, and teams like Weber who were last one's in.
Hell, I'll go out on a limb and say you might be UNI right now. I'd still put money on UNI outright, but if the spread hit more than 4 I wouldn't take it.
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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clenz wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:I love this.

Last week everyone thought Holy Cross sucked and would get blown out.

Instead Weber, Eastern Ill, and MCNeese got crushed and Holy Cross played a very good and competitive game vs. Nova.

But the PL doesnt have a shot in the playoffs :lol:. Anybody think Holy Cross wouldnt beat Weber and Eastern Ill after the terrible showing they put up on Saturday?
HC would have beat EIU by 10+ and likely WSU by 6
And beat UNI by 40, easily.
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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dbackjon wrote:
clenz wrote: HC would have beat EIU by 10+ and likely WSU by 6
And beat UNI by 40, easily.
Not so sure on that. I think you got your directional schools messed up again Jon. I think you mean Northern Arizona. :nod: :lol:
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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clenz wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
And beat UNI by 40, easily.
Not so sure on that. I think you got your directional schools messed up again Jon. I think you mean Northern Arizona. :nod: :lol:
Not at all. Remember, that "weak" Eastern Illinois team beat Illinois State badly. The same Illinois State team that knocked UNI out of the playoffs.


UNI fans are in NO position to talk smack about any other team...
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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Franks Tanks wrote:I love this.

Last week everyone thought Holy Cross sucked and would get blown out.

Instead Weber, Eastern Ill, and MCNeese got crushed and Holy Cross played a very good and competitive game vs. Nova.

But the PL doesnt have a shot in the playoffs :lol:. Anybody think Holy Cross wouldnt beat Weber and Eastern Ill after the terrible showing they put up on Saturday?
More often than not, the PL rep plays well in the playoffs. The PL champ gets arguably the worst playoff draw possible - it seems that every year the PL champ opens at a CAA school - and they almost always play well. The PL may not be the best conference, but it is better than many give credit for.
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MrTitleist wrote:Weber didn't matchup well w/ WM. Weber doesn't fare well against defenses that punch them in the mouth out of the gate. When that happens, Higgins gets scared and starts throwing the ball to the other team. He did it against Wyoming, he did it against Montana, he did it against Montana State, and he did it against WM. If the defense doesn't get aggressive w/ Weber right away, Higgins will pass all day. But if he's tests vs. a good D that knocks him down, well... you have what happened yesterday. Trevyn Smith was a non-factor as Webs had to start passing early and often.. predictable game.
And you can ask MrT...on Saturday, standing around drinking at Re/MaxGriz's tailgate, I flat out said that Weber was gonna get pummeled. I hate when I'm right. And lately, that's been a lot.
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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BlueHen86 wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:I love this.

Last week everyone thought Holy Cross sucked and would get blown out.

Instead Weber, Eastern Ill, and MCNeese got crushed and Holy Cross played a very good and competitive game vs. Nova.

But the PL doesnt have a shot in the playoffs :lol:. Anybody think Holy Cross wouldnt beat Weber and Eastern Ill after the terrible showing they put up on Saturday?
More often than not, the PL rep plays well in the playoffs. The PL champ gets arguably the worst playoff draw possible - it seems that every year the PL champ opens at a CAA school - and they almost always play well. The PL may not be the best conference, but it is better than many give credit for.
Yes,

Over the last several years the PL rep has played the eventual NC champ or the NC finalist nearly every year. I understand we get a bad draw because our SOS and GPI and all that is poor, and I can understand that, but few teams would have success playing the CAA champs in the first round every year.
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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AZGrizFan wrote:
JayJ79 wrote:
SDSU beat UNI, I can't argue that. (or at least SDSU played a good game, and did enough to make good on it when UNI gave them the game).

But I guess we have different definitions of "waxed"
OK. Waxed is a strong word. Fair enough. But the comment about their "vaunted" defense still stands.



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When our fuckin coaches run a prevent defense the whole last half your going to score points, and remember some of those points are off of turnovers and special teams.
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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Thumper 76 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
OK. Waxed is a strong word. Fair enough. But the comment about their "vaunted" defense still stands.



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When our fuckin coaches run a prevent defense the whole last half your going to score points, and remember some of those points are off of turnovers and special teams.
I would love to see how often teams loose or give up points because of a prevent defense.
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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clenz wrote:
Thumper 76 wrote:
When our fuckin coaches run a prevent defense the whole last half your going to score points, and remember some of those points are off of turnovers and special teams.
I would love to see how often teams loose or give up points because of a prevent defense.
So would I. Teams keep using it, so it must work. :?: But it sure does seem to fail a lot.
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putter wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Of course Eastern Illinois didn't belong, but that was Jacksonville State's fault, not the committee's.
Oh, next you will tell me some story how football players should actually attend classes! Brilliant :mrgreen:
Wait a minute! W&M football program grauation rate 94%, FCS average 64%.
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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dbackjon wrote:
clenz wrote:Not so sure on that. I think you got your directional schools messed up again Jon. I think you mean Northern Arizona. :nod: :lol:
Not at all. Remember, that "weak" Eastern Illinois team beat Illinois State badly. The same Illinois State team that knocked UNI out of the playoffs.


UNI fans are in NO position to talk smack about any other team...
Really? UNI just had its worst season in many years at 7-4.

UNI can't talk crap, yet you, from powerhouse NAU, can smack talk UNI fans? :lol:
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DJH wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Not at all. Remember, that "weak" Eastern Illinois team beat Illinois State badly. The same Illinois State team that knocked UNI out of the playoffs.


UNI fans are in NO position to talk smack about any other team...
Really? UNI just had its worst season in many years at 7-4.

UNI can't talk crap, yet you, from powerhouse NAU, can smack talk UNI fans? :lol:
He's merely pointing out your hypocrisy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

...and FYI: 2006 wasn't that long ago unless, as many here suspect, you're only about 8 years old. THAT was the last time UNI was 7-4. MONTANA, on the other hand, hasn't had 4 regular season losses since 1992 when they started the season 1-5 and finished 6-5. THAT, my misguided friend, is the definition of "many years". :thumb:
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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AZGrizFan wrote:
DJH wrote:
Really? UNI just had its worst season in many years at 7-4.

UNI can't talk crap, yet you, from powerhouse NAU, can smack talk UNI fans? :lol:
He's merely pointing out your hypocrisy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
He's pointing out hypocrisy by using hypocrisy and you're excusing it?

Jesus Z, your're falling into the democrat frame of mind... :lol:
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clenz wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
He's merely pointing out your hypocrisy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
He's pointing out hypocrisy by using hypocrisy and you're excusing it?

Jesus Z, your're falling into the democrat frame of mind... :lol:
He's not being hypocritcal. He's using facts...something totally foreign to most UNI fans. :kisswink:
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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AZGrizFan wrote:
clenz wrote:He's pointing out hypocrisy by using hypocrisy and you're excusing it?

Jesus Z, your're falling into the democrat frame of mind... :lol:
He's not being hypocritcal. He's using facts...something totally foreign to most UNI fans. :kisswink:
No...he is a fan of a team that is worse than UNI, and would get killed by UNI. If UNI has no room to talk, NAU sure as hell shouldn't even open their mouth. :nod:
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Thumper 76 wrote: When our fuckin coaches run a prevent defense the whole last half your going to score points, and remember some of those points are off of turnovers and special teams.
76, understand this: Bobby Hauck isn't good at many things, but he is the MASTER of the halftime adjustment. When Montana's offense is clicking, they are almost unstoppable. They obviously WEREN'T clicking in the first half. You saw a clinic in the second half. There's no doubt your coach played not to lose, we were able to stack the box because he became predictable in running the ball to burn clock. It backfired. On the other hand, defensively I didn't see anything much different. Montana just started to execute and take advantage of an average secondary with way-above-average receivers.
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clenz wrote:
Thumper 76 wrote:
When our fuckin coaches run a prevent defense the whole last half your going to score points, and remember some of those points are off of turnovers and special teams.
I would love to see how often teams loose or give up points because of a prevent defense.
It's the reason many of Montana's game scores end up much closer than the actual game was. Bobby clamps down once he's got a lead and trys to get to the end of the game.
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Re: Weber & Eastern Illinois Didn't Belong...

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AZGrizFan wrote:
clenz wrote:I would love to see how often teams loose or give up points because of a prevent defense.
It's the reason many of Montana's game scores end up much closer than the actual game was. Bobby clamps down once he's got a lead and trys to get to the end of the game.
It's the reason UNI doesn't have a title... :nod: :ohno:
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DJH wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Not at all. Remember, that "weak" Eastern Illinois team beat Illinois State badly. The same Illinois State team that knocked UNI out of the playoffs.


UNI fans are in NO position to talk smack about any other team...
Really? UNI just had its worst season in many years at 7-4.

UNI can't talk crap, yet you, from powerhouse NAU, can smack talk UNI fans? :lol:
Not to add insult to injury or anything, but UNI has been 7-4 3 of the last 6 seasons
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Silenoz wrote:
DJH wrote:
Really? UNI just had its worst season in many years at 7-4.

UNI can't talk crap, yet you, from powerhouse NAU, can smack talk UNI fans? :lol:
Not to add insult to injury or anything, but UNI has been 7-4 3 of the last 6 seasons
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Silenoz wrote:
DJH wrote:
Really? UNI just had its worst season in many years at 7-4.

UNI can't talk crap, yet you, from powerhouse NAU, can smack talk UNI fans? :lol:
Not to add insult to injury or anything, but UNI has been 7-4 3 of the last 6 seasons
To add insult and injury, make sure you bring this up again just before the UNI 2010 season starts up again. :thumb:
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