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Re: First Round Upsets?

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danefan wrote:I fear the tongue lashing that is about to happen but I think Montana is a first-round loser.

SDSU is a solid solid football team.
As showcased in their game against SIU. :lol:
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I think EWU has a great shot to go into Texas and knock off SFA. I think McNeese will hold off New Hampshire in a close one. And I honestly believe Elon will give Richmond one hell of a game and could pull the upset. It will be interesting to see what Weber State does against a very good William & Mary team. Long trip to make but they defied the odds and made the field, I think they'll let it all hang out and could make it very interesting. They won on the road last year so it's one to definitely keep an eye on.
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Re: First Round Upsets?

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danefan wrote:Why are people referring to the potential EWU and New Hampshire wins as upsets?

I think EWU and UNH are favorites despite being on the road.
First I've heard. I'm used to EWU always being the underdog team who surprises people, and then excuses are made, like the other team must have been overrated, or just got unlucky or some crap like that.
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Re: First Round Upsets?

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wildkyle wrote:Weber will pull the upset and EWU will too so all 3 Big Sky teams will move on because Montana is not going to lose.
Solid reasoning. :rofl:
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SFA Fan!!! wrote:Eastern Washington and William & Mary Will Be Out 1st Round!
How do you Texans like your crow pie prepared? I'll inform the chef. :thumb:
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Re: First Round Upsets?

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slycat wrote:More bashing the quality of the Southland teams. No one is giving them a shot. I will eat my crow if they both lose but I really don't see it happening. SFA may lose but I really don't think UNH can beat McNeese.
I also agree. I've got McNeese pulling it out against UNH. I don't think SFA will be ready for Nichols and TJ... we'll win by 10-14.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
danefan wrote:I fear the tongue lashing that is about to happen but I think Montana is a first-round loser.

SDSU is a solid solid football team.
As showcased in their game against SIU. :lol:

I've already voiced my opinion on the UM-SDSU game, but if we're going to pull out single games, the Griz didn't exactly look like world beaters against Idaho State.
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mcveyrl wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
As showcased in their game against SIU. :lol:

I've already voiced my opinion on the UM-SDSU game, but if we're going to pull out single games, the Griz didn't exactly look like world beaters against Idaho State.
And struggled to beat NAU in OT... :nod:
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danefan wrote:Why are people referring to the potential EWU and New Hampshire wins as upsets?

I think EWU and UNH are favorites despite being on the road.
I think EWU is a favorite
But not UNH McNeese is strong
They beat App St
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danefan wrote:
mcveyrl wrote:

The only thing that's keeping me from calling this too is the QB situation at SDSU. IIRC, they've got a freshman coming into Wa-Griz. To say that's an impediment to victory would be an understatement.
redshirt Frosh O'Brien. Kid is a player and having played against Minnesota a few weeks ago will help. I'm not too worried about him. I just think the SDSU defense will hold Montana's offense in check.
I agree
But holding Montanas offense in check for the whole game will be very tough
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SpiderFan5 wrote:
danefan wrote:Why are people referring to the potential EWU and New Hampshire wins as upsets?

I think EWU and UNH are favorites despite being on the road.
I think EWU is a favorite
But not UNH McNeese is strong
They beat App St

And UNH beat Nova. Fail to see what them beating App State means. Especially when App State was down.



UNH by 2 or more TDs :thumb:
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mcveyrl wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
As showcased in their game against SIU. :lol:

I've already voiced my opinion on the UM-SDSU game, but if we're going to pull out single games, the Griz didn't exactly look like world beaters against Idaho State.
Exactly. Must look at the body of work. :coffee:
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I really want to go back to Chattanooga with Ursus this year, and get him laid, but I think SDSU is going throw a huge cock-block on my plans. :cry: :cry:

Per the thread title; there's MY answer! :grizo1: :grizo1: :grizo2:
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Grizo406 wrote:I really want to go back to Chattanooga with Ursus this year, and get him laid, but I think SDSU is going throw a huge cock-block on my plans. :cry: :cry:

Per the thread title; there's MY answer! :grizo1: :grizo1: :grizo2:
I've rejected all of your advances here in Missoula so I don't know what makes you think being in Chatty again is gonna do for your chances? I tell ya what, if we go back and win it this year I'll allow you to at least take a look at it but that will be all.
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Grizo406 wrote:I really want to go back to Chattanooga with Ursus this year, and get him laid, but I think SDSU is going throw a huge cock-block on my plans. :cry: :cry:

Per the thread title; there's MY answer! :grizo1: :grizo1: :grizo2:
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Well We Will See If We Are Ready For Them. We Got A Hell OF A Defense, Ask McNeese! I Dont Think E. Washington Is Anything Different Than What We have Seen From Our Previous Oponents.
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
slycat wrote:More bashing the quality of the Southland teams. No one is giving them a shot. I will eat my crow if they both lose but I really don't see it happening. SFA may lose but I really don't think UNH can beat McNeese.
I also agree. I've got McNeese pulling it out against UNH. I don't think SFA will be ready for Nichols and TJ... we'll win by 10-14.
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wideright82 wrote:
SpiderFan5 wrote: I think EWU is a favorite
But not UNH McNeese is strong
They beat App St

And UNH beat Nova. Fail to see what them beating App State means. Especially when App State was down.



UNH by 2 or more TDs :thumb:
I saw UNH play W&M, and they dont have a balanced attack
Could not run the ball consistently
And do you really think UHN is better than yall
If Nova played UNH again, it would be a different outcome
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SpiderFan5 wrote:
wideright82 wrote:

And UNH beat Nova. Fail to see what them beating App State means. Especially when App State was down.



UNH by 2 or more TDs :thumb:
I saw UNH play W&M, and they dont have a balanced attack
Could not run the ball consistently
And do you really think UHN is better than yall
If Nova played UNH again, it would be a different outcome


I apologize. I have logical and illogical conversations going on all at once on this board. I by no means think UNH is going to win this game by 2 or more TDs. My main point is McNeese beating App State means nothing more than Dog Shit because UNH beat Nova this year.


I think Nova beats UNH by that score if we play them again, FWIW.



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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
slycat wrote:More bashing the quality of the Southland teams. No one is giving them a shot. I will eat my crow if they both lose but I really don't see it happening. SFA may lose but I really don't think UNH can beat McNeese.
I also agree. I've got McNeese pulling it out against UNH. I don't think SFA will be ready for Nichols and TJ... we'll win by 10-14.
SFA Fan!!! wrote:Well We Will See If We Are Ready For Them. We Got A Hell OF A Defense, Ask McNeese! I Dont Think E. Washington Is Anything Different Than What We have Seen From Our Previous Oponents.
SFA might indeed have a hell of a defense, but I argue that your defense hasn't been up against an offense like ours. McNeese is a mostly running team with Pendland in the backfield. I'm sure your D was able to key in on that with your 20th ranked rushing defense. But your pass defense, like ours, is poor, and will be very vulnerable against a QB as efficient and explosive as Nichols. We pass to set up the run... and with Taiwan Jones in the backfield (4.3 speed), the run or screen pass to the outside is deadly... he's a threat to score every time he touches the ball. He had a run of 71 yards for a TD, and a screen pass he took for 80 yards and a score in the same game against NAU. When you have a QB like Nichols putting up these kind of numbers... your D is going to have a tough time stopping him.

The last 5 games:
NAU: 22/33 – 408 yds – 5 TDs – 0 INTs
SUU: 28/38 – 380 yds – 4 TDs – 0 INTs
PSU: 21/30 – 413 yds – 4 TDs – 0 INTs
MSU: 26/41 – 327 yds – 4 TDs – 0 INTs
UM: 32/49 – 312 yds – 3 TDs – 0 INTs
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Total: 129/191 = 67.5% - 1840 yds – 20 TDs (+1 rushing) – 0 INTs

On the season he's 255/382 for a completion rate of 66.8%, 3369 yards, 30 TDs (+ 2 rushing)/5 INTs, and 306.3 yards per game
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wideright82 wrote:
SpiderFan5 wrote: I saw UNH play W&M, and they dont have a balanced attack
Could not run the ball consistently
And do you really think UHN is better than yall
If Nova played UNH again, it would be a different outcome


I apologize. I have logical and illogical conversations going on all at once on this board. I by no means think UNH is going to win this game by 2 or more TDs. My main point is McNeese beating App State means nothing more than Dog **** because UNH beat Nova this year.


I think Nova beats UNH by that score if we play them again, FWIW.



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Scremin' could you stop saying "you haven't seen an offense like ours"? It makes you look like a total asshole cuz it just isn't true. They have seen offenses like EWU's.

If EWU wins this game it is gonna be due to guys on the D line, and in particular on defense, Mr. J.C. Sherrit. You will score in the fashion that they are accustomed to seeing. The difference will be special teams and a very physical defense.

I do think EWU will make the key stops and get some great field position out of special teams play and win the game.
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Well that's just like your opinion, and stuff. :coffee:

The best offense they've seen is McNeese's, and EWU's is much different in it's style of attack, and more dangerous in my opinion.
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:Scremin' could you stop saying "you haven't seen an offense like ours"? It makes you look like a total asshole cuz it just isn't true. They have seen offenses like EWU's.

If EWU wins this game it is gonna be due to guys on the D line, and in particular on defense, Mr. J.C. Sherrit. You will score in the fashion that they are accustomed to seeing. The difference will be special teams and a very physical defense.

I do think EWU will make the key stops and get some great field position out of special teams play and win the game.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Well that's just like your opinion, and stuff. :coffee:

The best offense they've seen is McNeese's, and EWU's is much different in it's style of attack, and more dangerous in my opinion.
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:Scremin' could you stop saying "you haven't seen an offense like ours"? It makes you look like a total asshole cuz it just isn't true. They have seen offenses like EWU's.

If EWU wins this game it is gonna be due to guys on the D line, and in particular on defense, Mr. J.C. Sherrit. You will score in the fashion that they are accustomed to seeing. The difference will be special teams and a very physical defense.

I do think EWU will make the key stops and get some great field position out of special teams play and win the game.

By style of attack and more dangerous do you mean, McNeese tries to score points other than by putting the ball into the endzone? :lol:
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wideright82 wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Well that's just like your opinion, and stuff. :coffee:

The best offense they've seen is McNeese's, and EWU's is much different in it's style of attack, and more dangerous in my opinion.
By style of attack and more dangerous do you mean, McNeese tries to score points other than by putting the ball into the endzone? :lol:
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Yes it is my opinion and stuff. I've seen those kinds of statements from many fans, players, and others associated with programs for many, many years now and one common thread to all of them is that is dumb as shit to say, even if it were true.

Back in 1995 before we played EKU they had a stud linebacker by the name of Tony McCombs that made the comment that the Griz had never seen a defense like theirs and they were gonna shut us down.
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The next week nearly the identical comment from a GSU player.
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You see, even though these guys played the game and had a pretty good handle on what their team was able to accomplish better than any of the fans they were still monumentally wrong.

Your offense is gonna score points, and they would even against teams like Montana that have seen exactly what kind of an offense you have so for that reason alone it is a dumbass statement.

They have played against Nathan Brown, Perilloux, and several other top notch qb's, several other top notch rb's, and several other O Lines that are very similar in talent to EWU's offense.

As I said before if EWU wins this it is because your defense held another great offense in check well enough to let your offense arrive at a superior point total when it's all said and done. It ain't gonna be because you guys have some mystical offense.
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Well that's just like your opinion, and stuff. :coffee:

The best offense they've seen is McNeese's, and EWU's is much different in it's style of attack, and more dangerous in my opinion.
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:Scremin' could you stop saying "you haven't seen an offense like ours"? It makes you look like a total asshole cuz it just isn't true. They have seen offenses like EWU's.

If EWU wins this game it is gonna be due to guys on the D line, and in particular on defense, Mr. J.C. Sherrit. You will score in the fashion that they are accustomed to seeing. The difference will be special teams and a very physical defense.

I do think EWU will make the key stops and get some great field position out of special teams play and win the game.
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