2025 and Beyond Domestic Rightist Violence Thread

[UNI88]

I expect the state to file charges and for the case to be removed to federal court.

It will be interesting to see how all of the "all you have to do is comply with and/or not obstruct" law enforcement people respond if and when DHS attempts to obstruct the judicial process. Will they be consistent and insist that DHS comply with subpoenas, judicial rulings, etc. or will they be hypocrites and defend the obstruction?

Judges across the country rebuke ICE for defying court orders

But in recent weeks, that drumbeat of subtle alarm has metastasized into a full-blown clarion call by judges across the country, who are now openly castigating what they say are systematic legal and constitutional abuses by the administration.

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“There has been an undeniable move by the Government in the past month to defy court orders or at least to stretch the legal process to the breaking point in an attempt to deny noncitizens their due process rights,” warned U.S. District Judge Michael Davis, a Minnesota-based Clinton appointee.

How do the all you have to do is comply with and/or not obstruct" law enforcement people feel about trump regime attempts to obstruct the judicial process? Judges and their rulings deserve at least the same level of respect as ICE/CBP agents.

Will you be consistent and insist that DHS comply with subpoenas, judicial rulings, etc. or will you be hypocrites and defend the obstruction and blame "unhinged, extremist, activist" judges after disregarding allegations of ICE/CBP agents violating Constitutional rights, not following their own rules/training, etc?

Nothing? Heads stuck in the ground? You were all quick to express indignation at citizens' allegedly interfering with/obstructing the alleged law enforcement activities of ICE/CBP agents?

Where is the indignation over DHS/DoJ interfering with/obstructing judicial proceedings and processes?

[UNI88]

[UNI88]

Courts have ruled 4,400 times that ICE jailed people illegally. It hasn’t stopped.

Hundreds of judges around the country have ruled more than 4,400 times since October that President Donald Trump’s administration is detaining immigrants unlawfully, a Reuters review of court records found.

The decisions amount to a sweeping legal rebuke of Trump’s immigration crackdown. Yet the administration has continued jailing people indefinitely even after courts ruled the policy was illegal.

"It is appalling that the Government insists that this Court should redefine or completely disregard the current law as it is clearly written," U.S. District Judge Thomas Johnston of West Virginia, an appointee of President George W. Bush, wrote last week, ordering the release of a Venezuelan detainee in the state.

But we should trust DHS/ICE/CBP and people have no legitimate reason to protest their tactics so they must be paid, commie agitators?

[UNI88]

Minnesota shooting of Venezuelan man is the latest where video evidence contradicts ICE accounts

Federal authorities announced an investigation Friday into two immigration officers who appeared to have made untruthful statements under oath about a shooting in Minneapolis last month.

It is among at least five shootings in which initial descriptions by the immigration officials were later contradicted by video evidence. Those included the fatal Minneapolis shootings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, where bystander video quickly raised questions about how they were initially described.
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In an unusual reversal, prosecutors asked to dismiss the cases because they said new video evidence contradicted allegations made against the men in a criminal complaint and at a hearing last month.

[BDKJMU]

Courts have ruled 4,400 times that ICE jailed people illegally. It hasn’t stopped.

Hundreds of judges around the country have ruled more than 4,400 times since October that President Donald Trump’s administration is detaining immigrants unlawfully, a Reuters review of court records found.

The decisions amount to a sweeping legal rebuke of Trump’s immigration crackdown. Yet the administration has continued jailing people indefinitely even after courts ruled the policy was illegal.

"It is appalling that the Government insists that this Court should redefine or completely disregard the current law as it is clearly written," U.S. District Judge Thomas Johnston of West Virginia, an appointee of President George W. Bush, wrote last week, ordering the release of a Venezuelan detainee in the state.

But we should trust DHS/ICE/CBP and people have no legitimate reason to protest their tactics so they must be paid, commie agitators?

Overruled.
https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... 6#p1490076
SCOTUS will ultimately decide, probably later this year.

Of course they should deny bond hearings and detain until deported people who are among the 1.6 million who have previously filed final orders of removal, as they have already demonstrated once in the past that they won‘t show up for court.

[UNI88]

Dad shot daughter after 'arguing about Donald Trump'

A British woman who was shot dead by her father while visiting his home in Texas had argued with him about US President Donald Trump earlier that day, an inquest has heard.
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Littler said on the morning of 10 January his partner had asked her father during the Trump row: "How would you feel if I was the girl in that situation and I'd been sexually assaulted?"

Kris Harrison had replied that he had two other daughters who lived with him so it would not upset him that much.

Littler said Lucy became "quite upset" and ran upstairs.

[UNI88]

Grand Island man arrested after alleged assault during student-led ICE protest walkout

A Grand Island man has been arrested after allegedly assaulting a juvenile who was part of a group of Grand Island Senior High School students who were protesting ICE.

Michael Brown, 54, was arrested for child abuse.
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Elliott said witnesses reported Brown then got out of his vehicle and started going after the juvenile female who threw the water bottle. He said other students then started attacking Brown, with students punching and kicking him while he was on the ground.

Elliott said one video showed there were possibly four people assaulting Brown while he was on the ground.

Michael Brown FAFO.

[kalm]

How? How was Pretti being in the street interfering with the LE operation? What about the situation justified the agent "getting Pettri off the street"?

I'm all for respecting LE but this was a protest and people are allowed to observe, film, etc. Where they stand should only matter if they're actually in the way of the operation. ICE/CBP not liking where they're standing shouldn't automatically be considered interfering. Assisting a woman who was violently shoved to the ground by an ICE/CBP agent also shouldn't automatically be considered interfering.

Why should I trust the words and actions of ICE/CBP agents? They were caught on video telling a physician who wanted to help Renee Good - "I don’t care.” They have demonstrated a callous disregard for the rights and lives of US citizens.

You can believe them if you choose to but don't expect me to and don't think that I'm going to buy the "he was interfering" argument without questioning the agents' words and actions. ICE/CBP through their own words and actions has lost the credibility that I give to reputable law enforcement officers.

Really nothing to discuss. Reckless behavior in a high tension area with a conceal carry. The investigation will determine everything else.

1. Border Patrol removed Pretti from street with words exchanged
2. Shortly after, officers have a person detained on street as Pretti yells leave her alone
3. Pretti back on street directing traffic
4. Encounter leading to shooting

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/us/alex- ... esses-invs

ICE CBP are reckless…proven in hundreds of videos and testimony.

[UNI88]

[Caribbean Hen]

Really nothing to discuss. Reckless behavior in a high tension area with a conceal carry. The investigation will determine everything else.

1. Border Patrol removed Pretti from street with words exchanged
2. Shortly after, officers have a person detained on street as Pretti yells leave her alone
3. Pretti back on street directing traffic
4. Encounter leading to shooting

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/us/alex- ... esses-invs

ICE CBP are reckless…proven in hundreds of videos and testimony.

Your ignorance is showing here…

the videos don’t even come close to giving you the full context of what is actually happening. It’s like you watching one highlight of the game, but you didn’t watch all 60 Minutes.

[Gil Dobie]

Really nothing to discuss. Reckless behavior in a high tension area with a conceal carry. The investigation will determine everything else.

1. Border Patrol removed Pretti from street with words exchanged
2. Shortly after, officers have a person detained on street as Pretti yells leave her alone
3. Pretti back on street directing traffic
4. Encounter leading to shooting

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/us/alex- ... esses-invs

ICE CBP are reckless…proven in hundreds of videos and testimony.

So it's ok for Pretti to be reckless because ICE is?

[Skjellyfetti]

Pretti didn't kill anyone.

[kalm]

ICE CBP are reckless…proven in hundreds of videos and testimony.

So it's ok for Pretti to be reckless because ICE is?

Is reckless a capital offense?

[Gil Dobie]

So it's ok for Pretti to be reckless because ICE is?

Is reckless a capital offense?

Reckless can lead to unintended consequences.

[Skjellyfetti]

Is reckless a capital offense?

Reckless can lead to unintended consequences.

yes, and if it leads to you killing another person... you're likely to be on the hook for felony charges

[kalm]

Is reckless a capital offense?

Reckless can lead to unintended consequences.

True. It can also lead to you unnecessarily taking a life

[Gil Dobie]

Reckless can lead to unintended consequences.

yes, and if it leads to you killing another person... you're likely to be on the hook for felony charges

True, or you could be the one getting killed.

[Gil Dobie]

Reckless can lead to unintended consequences.

True. It can also lead to you unnecessarily taking a life

..or being the one losing a life.

[Caribbean Hen]

yes, and if it leads to you killing another person... you're likely to be on the hook for felony charges

True, or you could be the one getting killed.

It’s like he had a death wish

You bring a loaded weapon into a heated environment where enforcement is trying to do their job.. mistakes can happen

When you insist on bringing your weapon, you keep a low profile unless you’re looking for serious trouble

[kalm]

True. It can also lead to you unnecessarily taking a life

..or being the one losing a life.

But that’s not what anyone is arguing here, Gil, is it?

[Gil Dobie]

..or being the one losing a life.

But that’s not what anyone is arguing here, Gil, is it?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[kalm]

But that’s not what anyone is arguing here, Gil, is it?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

What are your two wrongs here?

[BDKJMU]

Lol Islamists vote overwhelmingly left. So killings by those that vote left are greater than those that vote right.

[UNI88]

Lol Islamists vote overwhelmingly left. So killings by those that vote left are greater than those that vote right.

If an islamist commits violence against a woman or an LGBTQ+ person, it's automatically leftist violence? No.

[BDKJMU]

Lol Islamists vote overwhelmingly left. So killings by those that vote left are greater than those that vote right.

If an islamist commits violence against a woman or an LGBTQ+ person, it's automatically leftist violence? No.

Yet they overwhelmingly vote left.

So your graph looks like those who vote Democrat commit more violence than those who vote Republican.