US Strikes Iran

[Caribbean Hen]

He hotboxes, I think you have to travel to get one, don't you? Not a drug head so don't know

The hating in this thread exposes so much insecurity…

Yea
“He’s never been anywhere” is soooo mean

[kalm]

The hating in this thread exposes so much insecurity…

Yea
“He’s never been anywhere” is soooo mean

Did I say mean? No. It’s simply ad hominem. Defending it is a further sign of insecurity.

Don’t worry Ch. just keep on being you.

[UNI88]

russia collusion was not a hoax. There was evidence of communication but not enough for to prosecute. It was valid for news sources to investigate and report on the possible collusion. Lack of prosecution does not equal hoax. Calling it a hoax is reason eleventy billion and one why trump and MAQA yahoos can't be trusted.

The hunter laptop was another story and everyone who worked to bury it should be ashamed.

But the election wasn’t stolen

The 2020 election was stolen about as much as the 2016 and 2024 elections were stolen.


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[UNI88]

Well yeah…I’d hope not seeing how it’s intel.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/22/nx-s1-54 ... xperts-say

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics ... lear-sites

This must be why Hegseth and Trump’s only answer is the courage of our forces….which no one is disputing.

The 1st is 2 guys, 1 a college professor, with no access to classified intel. Now maybe they have contacts to some who do.

The 2nd, the CNN, was written by the same Fake News CNN reporter who reported the Hunter laptop was Russian disinfo, and is is based on unnamed ‘sources‘. If the news was credible, it wouldn’t be unnamed sources.

So again you can’t name anyone from any US intel agency who has disagreed with that assessment. That would be a source with a name behind it (not anonymous).

What's wrong with anonymous/confidential sources? What if they're worried abouting being doxxed/retaliated against by trump and MAQA yahoos?

They‘re wearing masks because your side is doxxing them.

Why should news sources be held to a higher standard of bravery than ICE/DHS agents? Are you calling ICE/DHS agents pussies?

[houndawg]

Looks like he fucked that up too - Iran still has enough fissile material for about 10 bombs and the consensus outside Maggatland seems to be that at best Iran has been delayed for a few months....

I would love to have someone explain to me exactly how this mystical "nuclear deal" that was reached under the Obama administration was supposed to work in its original format.

And also, its pretty funny how the narrative shifted from "Iran cannot make a nuke and they were years if not decades away", to they were only enriching uranium for peaceful purposes and Israel is just being paranoid", to now that they were only a few months away from obtaining a nuke, and destroying their nuclear research facililties only sped up the development process.



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Seems like Iran and NK are naturals trade partners, enriched uranium for missiles.


Iran will not stop until they have nukes because its existensial - like what happened to Libya and Ukraine when they gave up theirs.

[houndawg]

Badly damaged is NOT the same as obliterated.


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Ok Iran even admits to badly damaged.
Israel and the US say destroyed.

Of course they did what else would they say? "Missed me missed me?" Good grief....

[houndawg]

The irony is, though, that CNN, prior to the bombings, was also questioning the assessment that Iran was even close to nuclear weapons. So which is it? Before the bombing they say Iran wasn't close, but now, after the bombing they say Iran is even closer than ever. Did the bomb damage push Iran closer to nuclear weapons? Or is CNN's journalistic position to be as contrarian as possible?

They are for whatever outcome makes Trump look the worst. Thats the narrative they have been covering for the last 15 years.

[SeattleGriz]

At least with that guy it’s a name person who was high level (probably still has a TSC,) who would have high level contacts.

The original CNN article written by the Fake News reporter who pushed the Hunter laptop was Russian disinfo hoax, didn’t name a source, and didn‘t include it was low level confidence.

It’s funny you think CNN represents all msm news. Do you have any idea how many former intelligence people are agreeing with me? That’s it’s too early to tell the extent of the damage, how long it will set them back, much less the misuse of the word obliterated, that preliminary reports suggest otherwise?

Defending Trump’s hubris and goofiness is an uphill climb. But you just keep trudging along.

I'm betting 51? Correct.

Glad to have you finally wake up to all the wonder weapons that aren't really aren't wonder weapons. I've only been pointing this out to you over Ukraine for the last two years.

The real issue is that you only finally started to understand because it involves Trump. Talk about trudging along.

[houndawg]

Trump radiates strength

Russia bided their time during Trump’s first term and waited for Joey Rotten to take over so they could carry out their plans

Iran was enabled for decades by weak politician’s and Trump comes in with a completely different approach founded in strength

The only thing he radiates the stench of shit form his steel-reinforced diaper.

[kalm]

It’s funny you think CNN represents all msm news. Do you have any idea how many former intelligence people are agreeing with me? That’s it’s too early to tell the extent of the damage, how long it will set them back, much less the misuse of the word obliterated, that preliminary reports suggest otherwise?

Defending Trump’s hubris and goofiness is an uphill climb. But you just keep trudging along.

I'm betting 51? Correct.

Glad to have you finally wake up to all the wonder weapons that aren't really aren't wonder weapons. I've only been pointing this out to you over Ukraine for the last two years.

The real issue is that you only finally started to understand because it involves Trump. Talk about trudging along.

Yeah…Ukraine took one look at the weapons we sent and said no thank you. Quit sending them.

[SeattleGriz]

I'm betting 51? Correct.

Glad to have you finally wake up to all the wonder weapons that aren't really aren't wonder weapons. I've only been pointing this out to you over Ukraine for the last two years.

The real issue is that you only finally started to understand because it involves Trump. Talk about trudging along.

Yeah…Ukraine took one look at the weapons we sent and said no thank you. Quit sending them.

You thought they were going to turn the tide for Ukraine.

I'n regards to Iran, I don't think the bunker busters worked. That place was designed as best they could to combat such weapons in addition to it being so far down in the mountain.

Don't know if any facilities are destabilized and cannot be used, but we also know Iran got a heads-up and that's why they pulled all the uranium before the strike.

[UNI88]

Yeah…Ukraine took one look at the weapons we sent and said no thank you. Quit sending them.

You thought they were going to turn the tide for Ukraine.

I'n regards to Iran, I don't think the bunker busters worked. That place was designed as best they could to combat such weapons in addition to it being so far down in the mountain.

Don't know if any facilities are destabilized and cannot be used, but we also know Iran got a heads-up from Pete Hegseth’s wife and that's why they pulled all the uranium before the strike.

FYP


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[SeattleGriz]

You thought they were going to turn the tide for Ukraine.

I'n regards to Iran, I don't think the bunker busters worked. That place was designed as best they could to combat such weapons in addition to it being so far down in the mountain.

Don't know if any facilities are destabilized and cannot be used, but we also know Iran got a heads-up from Pete Hegseth’s wife and that's why they pulled all the uranium before the strike.

FYP


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Exactly. Let them know over Facebook Messenger.

[BDKJMU]

The 1st is 2 guys, 1 a college professor, with no access to classified intel. Now maybe they have contacts to some who do.

The 2nd, the CNN, was written by the same Fake News CNN reporter who reported the Hunter laptop was Russian disinfo, and is is based on unnamed ‘sources‘. If the news was credible, it wouldn’t be unnamed sources.

So again you can’t name anyone from any US intel agency who has disagreed with that assessment. That would be a source with a name behind it (not anonymous).

What's wrong with anonymous/confidential sources? What if they're worried abouting being doxxed/retaliated against by trump and MAQA yahoos?

They‘re wearing masks because your side is doxxing them.

Why should news sources be held to a higher standard of bravery than ICE/DHS agents? Are you calling ICE/DHS agents pussies?

You‘re really trying to equate anonymous sources that a major news story is based off of to law enforcement wearing masks to protect their undercover identity Yeah you‘ve officially lost it.

[BDKJMU]

The Senate on Friday blocked a Democratic resolution that would have forced President Trump to go to Congress for approval of further military action against Iran, dealing a blow to efforts to rein in his war powers.

The 53-to-47 vote against bringing up the resolution, mostly along party lines, came nearly a week after the president unilaterally ordered strikes against three Iranian nuclear facilities without consulting the House and Senate. It also followed a searing debate on the Senate floor over the role of Congress in authorizing the use of military force.

The measure, sponsored by Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia, invoked the War Powers Act, a 1973 law aimed at limiting a president’s power to enter an armed conflict without the consent of Congress. It would have required the White House to notify lawmakers and seek the approval of both the House and Senate before U.S. forces could take further military action against Iran.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/27/us/p ... trike.html
Where were the donks 10-15 years ago?

[UNI88]

What's wrong with anonymous/confidential sources? What if they're worried abouting being doxxed/retaliated against by trump and MAQA yahoos?
Why should news sources be held to a higher standard of bravery than ICE/DHS agents? Are you calling ICE/DHS agents pussies?

You‘re really trying to equate anonymous sources that a major news story is based off of to law enforcement wearing masks to protect their undercover identity Yeah you‘ve officially lost it.

If you think they’re “undercover” then you‘ve officially lost it.

You are consistent in how you apply your double standards.


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[BDKJMU]

You‘re really trying to equate anonymous sources that a major news story is based off of to law enforcement wearing masks to protect their undercover identity Yeah you‘ve officially lost it.

If you think they’re “undercover” then you‘ve officially lost it.

You are consistent in how you apply your double standards.


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And you are consistent in your comparisons.

[UNI88]

If you think they’re “undercover” then you‘ve officially lost it.

You are consistent in how you apply your double standards.


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And you are consistent in your comparisons.

So you admit that agents in tactical gear aren’t undercover.

You don’t like my comparisons because they hit too close to home and expose MAQA yahoo hypocrisy.

Why should ICE/DHS be allowed to protect their overt agents from possible retribution but a reporter/news purveyor can’t protect their sources from possible retribution? Explain your logic.


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[BDKJMU]

And you are consistent in your comparisons.

So you admit that agents in tactical gear aren’t undercover.

You don’t like my comparisons because they hit too close to home and expose MAQA yahoo hypocrisy.

Why should ICE/DHS be allowed to protect their overt agents from possible retribution but a reporter/news purveyor can’t protect their sources from possible retribution? Explain your logic.


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1. Lol you‘re defending a source if real committing a crime. (the release of highly classified info).
2. There‘s no way to substantiate an ‘unnamed‘ source. It could be legit, or could be a reporter just embellishing, spinning, omitting, or outright lying/making shit up.

If you want people to find a source credible, put a name behind it.

[GannonFan]

I would love to have someone explain to me exactly how this mystical "nuclear deal" that was reached under the Obama administration was supposed to work in its original format.

And also, its pretty funny how the narrative shifted from "Iran cannot make a nuke and they were years if not decades away", to they were only enriching uranium for peaceful purposes and Israel is just being paranoid", to now that they were only a few months away from obtaining a nuke, and destroying their nuclear research facililties only sped up the development process.



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Seems like Iran and NK are naturals trade partners, enriched uranium for missiles.


Iran will not stop until they have nukes because its existensial - like what happened to Libya and Ukraine when they gave up theirs.

Libya and Ukraine aren't good examples. In Libya, it was a backwards country with a singular, military strongman, that was holding that country together. His demise through age is what ultimately caused that country to stumble as they did. Ukraine, on the other hand, had a large predator nation on their border who did and still does threaten their existence. Neither of those is like Iran. Iran is a pretty advanced country in terms of education, technology, etc. And they don't have anyone on their borders that really threaten their existence. The Arab nations are pretty racist and don't like the Persians, but no one there would actually attack Iran. And even with Israel not on their borders, Israel doesn't threaten Iran's existence. Israel has had nukes for almost 50 years now, and they've never deployed them. For all of Israel's faults, at least most of the time they resort to military or subversive force is when they deal with countries and entities that have publicly stated their desire to destroy the entire nation of Israel and to rid the Middle East of all Jews. And as we've seen with the Abraham Accords, Israel is perfectly fine living in peace with their neighbors if it's reciprocal. Nothing about Iran and getting nuclear weapons is existential, unless the existential part is being able to destroy other countries. If that's the case, find a different existential need that doesn't need nukes.

[kalm]

Seems like Iran and NK are naturals trade partners, enriched uranium for missiles.


Iran will not stop until they have nukes because its existensial - like what happened to Libya and Ukraine when they gave up theirs.

Libya and Ukraine aren't good examples. In Libya, it was a backwards country with a singular, military strongman, that was holding that country together. His demise through age is what ultimately caused that country to stumble as they did. Ukraine, on the other hand, had a large predator nation on their border who did and still does threaten their existence. Neither of those is like Iran. Iran is a pretty advanced country in terms of education, technology, etc. And they don't have anyone on their borders that really threaten their existence. The Arab nations are pretty racist and don't like the Persians, but no one there would actually attack Iran. And even with Israel not on their borders, Israel doesn't threaten Iran's existence. Israel has had nukes for almost 50 years now, and they've never deployed them. For all of Israel's faults, at least most of the time they resort to military or subversive force is when they deal with countries and entities that have publicly stated their desire to destroy the entire nation of Israel and to rid the Middle East of all Jews. And as we've seen with the Abraham Accords, Israel is perfectly fine living in peace with their neighbors if it's reciprocal. Nothing about Iran and getting nuclear weapons is existential, unless the existential part is being able to destroy other countries. If that's the case, find a different existential need that doesn't need nukes.

Correction. Israel is perfectly fine living in peace with their neighbors while entirely destroying GAZA after perpetrating an apartheid for decades against the Palestinians.

Not very neighborly.

[GannonFan]

Libya and Ukraine aren't good examples. In Libya, it was a backwards country with a singular, military strongman, that was holding that country together. His demise through age is what ultimately caused that country to stumble as they did. Ukraine, on the other hand, had a large predator nation on their border who did and still does threaten their existence. Neither of those is like Iran. Iran is a pretty advanced country in terms of education, technology, etc. And they don't have anyone on their borders that really threaten their existence. The Arab nations are pretty racist and don't like the Persians, but no one there would actually attack Iran. And even with Israel not on their borders, Israel doesn't threaten Iran's existence. Israel has had nukes for almost 50 years now, and they've never deployed them. For all of Israel's faults, at least most of the time they resort to military or subversive force is when they deal with countries and entities that have publicly stated their desire to destroy the entire nation of Israel and to rid the Middle East of all Jews. And as we've seen with the Abraham Accords, Israel is perfectly fine living in peace with their neighbors if it's reciprocal. Nothing about Iran and getting nuclear weapons is existential, unless the existential part is being able to destroy other countries. If that's the case, find a different existential need that doesn't need nukes.

Correction. Israel is perfectly fine living in peace with their neighbors while entirely destroying GAZA after perpetrating an apartheid for decades against the Palestinians.

Not very neighborly.

Wasn't very neighborly for Gaza too when Israel conceded to let them hold popular, democratic elections, and they elected Hamas on the "Death to Jews and Israel, Let's Wipe Them Off the Map" platform. Hamas has been in power there ever since over the last almost 20 years (with no further elections), including the October 7th massacre. Imagine how things could have gone differently had Gaza chosen a different direction. And of course, Hamas was bought and paid for by Iran as one of many avenues to arm factions to help Iran wage constant war against Israel for over multiple decades while not officially state sanctioning such a war (like with Hezbollah, the Houthis, and others). Details, details, details.

[kalm]

Correction. Israel is perfectly fine living in peace with their neighbors while entirely destroying GAZA after perpetrating an apartheid for decades against the Palestinians.

Not very neighborly.

Wasn't very neighborly for Gaza too when Israel conceded to let them hold popular, democratic elections, and they elected Hamas on the "Death to Jews and Israel, Let's Wipe Them Off the Map" platform. Hamas has been in power there ever since over the last almost 20 years (with no further elections), including the October 7th massacre. Imagine how things could have gone differently had Gaza chosen a different direction. And of course, Hamas was bought and paid for by Iran as one of many avenues to arm factions to help Iran wage constant war against Israel for over multiple decades while not officially state sanctioning such a war (like with Hezbollah, the Houthis, and others). Details, details, details.

Of course. Hamas is not a real government. But you left out that half of all Gazans are under 18 and regardless, the willful massacre and destruction there has rendered Israel a terrorist state.

[GannonFan]

Wasn't very neighborly for Gaza too when Israel conceded to let them hold popular, democratic elections, and they elected Hamas on the "Death to Jews and Israel, Let's Wipe Them Off the Map" platform. Hamas has been in power there ever since over the last almost 20 years (with no further elections), including the October 7th massacre. Imagine how things could have gone differently had Gaza chosen a different direction. And of course, Hamas was bought and paid for by Iran as one of many avenues to arm factions to help Iran wage constant war against Israel for over multiple decades while not officially state sanctioning such a war (like with Hezbollah, the Houthis, and others). Details, details, details.

Of course. Hamas is not a real government. But you left out that half of all Gazans are under 18 and regardless, the willful massacre and destruction there has rendered Israel a terrorist state.

Call it what you want - Hamas was in control of Gaza, so close enough to a government (they were voted in), and they decided on sustained attacks on Israel. Israel's certainly capable of avoiding a good chunk of the killing and destruction than they have so call them what you will. I think Israel is guilty of war crimes. I also think Hamas is guilty of war crimes. Iran's probably guilty of war crimes too as they've been directing Hamas from time to time too - of course, the folks doing that have probably paid their price since a lot of them have been killed by Israel over the past months and recently. Nothing happening there is acceptable or good. But we also have no idea what's happening anymore everyday, other than the fact that people are dying. War absolutely sucks, and sucks even more for the people stuck in the middle. Hopefully the next focus, after ensuring adequately Iran isn't going to go for a bomb, is that a cease fire takes place in Gaza. I'm not sure Israel or Hamas wants the cease fire, so we'll see what comes of it.

[Bobcat]

Libya and Ukraine aren't good examples. In Libya, it was a backwards country with a singular, military strongman, that was holding that country together. His demise through age is what ultimately caused that country to stumble as they did. Ukraine, on the other hand, had a large predator nation on their border who did and still does threaten their existence. Neither of those is like Iran. Iran is a pretty advanced country in terms of education, technology, etc. And they don't have anyone on their borders that really threaten their existence. The Arab nations are pretty racist and don't like the Persians, but no one there would actually attack Iran. And even with Israel not on their borders, Israel doesn't threaten Iran's existence. Israel has had nukes for almost 50 years now, and they've never deployed them. For all of Israel's faults, at least most of the time they resort to military or subversive force is when they deal with countries and entities that have publicly stated their desire to destroy the entire nation of Israel and to rid the Middle East of all Jews. And as we've seen with the Abraham Accords, Israel is perfectly fine living in peace with their neighbors if it's reciprocal. Nothing about Iran and getting nuclear weapons is existential, unless the existential part is being able to destroy other countries. If that's the case, find a different existential need that doesn't need nukes.

Correction. Israel is perfectly fine living in peace with their neighbors while entirely destroying GAZA after perpetrating an apartheid for decades against the Palestinians.

Not very neighborly.

Pssssst, wake up hop head.

Israel didn't attack anyone last Oct. Game over, thanks for playing