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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:33 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:38 pm

They are refusing because they feel the people most at risk of surviving Covid, are not getting vaccinated. They are willing to give up their position in the vaccine line for a high risk person that needs it.

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One guys op-ed on why he is waiting to get the vaccination applies to all? Bit of a stretch. :lol:. I would say some are a little leary of a vaccine that was created in nine months, when they are used to seeing vaccines normally take years.
Don't play games by wordsmithing. Of course one does not mean all, that was why I posted this in contrast to the other post.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:13 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:33 pm

One guys op-ed on why he is waiting to get the vaccination applies to all? Bit of a stretch. :lol:. I would say some are a little leary of a vaccine that was created in nine months, when they are used to seeing vaccines normally take years.
Don't play games by wordsmithing. Of course one does not mean all, that was why I posted this in contrast to the other post.
If there is more context to your post, I'm not seeing it. I don't follow this thread too closely.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:47 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:13 pm

Don't play games by wordsmithing. Of course one does not mean all, that was why I posted this in contrast to the other post.
If there is more context to your post, I'm not seeing it. I don't follow this thread too closely.
BDK was talking like all the people choosing not to get the virus, were chick-littles. My post contradicted it by showing another reason.
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Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:27 am Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:27 am Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
Not to mention cold and flu season will be ending in about a month, so seasonality will help play a factor as well.
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:27 am Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
Yep. Peak was projected by some in mid-late February but if these trends continue that will be a welcome advance of schedule. Caution for holiday weekend effects on the numbers and we still need to get down to the 10,000 new cases per day range but I’ll take any positive news.

Somewhat normal by the end of this year. Masks, voluntary social distancing, and high vaccination rates will speed up the process and reduce lockdowns.

Still need massive and continued stimulus especially for the unemployed and food and bar industries.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:27 am Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
First time Minnesota has back to back days with less than 1000 new cases, since early October.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:55 am
What would the deaths have been without lockdowns? How do those rates stack up against other countries with more compliance or restrictions?

It’s killed 400,000 + WITH limited social distancing. How does a 13,000 increase (while significant) justify less restrictions?
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:55 am
Sounds like people are not getting medical attention for Covid, and dying at home.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:03 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:55 am
What would the deaths have been without lockdowns? How do those rates stack up against other countries with more compliance or restrictions?

It’s killed 400,000 + WITH limited social distancing. How does a 13,000 increase (while significant) justify less restrictions?
I found many google searches on people with covid, dying at home. So this is actual evidence that the Covid numbers are low.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:52 am
GannonFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am

No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
Not to mention cold and flu season will be ending in about a month, so seasonality will help play a factor as well.
Cold and flu season hasn't started yet, going by the #s.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:52 am
GannonFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am

No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
Yep. Peak was projected by some in mid-late February but if these trends continue that will be a welcome advance of schedule. Caution for holiday weekend effects on the numbers and we still need to get down to the 10,000 new cases per day range but I’ll take any positive news.

Somewhat normal by the end of this year. Masks, voluntary social distancing, and high vaccination rates will speed up the process and reduce lockdowns.

Still need massive and continued stimulus especially for the unemployed and food and bar industries.
And where are these trillions and trillions and trillions that govt keeps pumping out coming from?
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:37 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:52 am

Yep. Peak was projected by some in mid-late February but if these trends continue that will be a welcome advance of schedule. Caution for holiday weekend effects on the numbers and we still need to get down to the 10,000 new cases per day range but I’ll take any positive news.

Somewhat normal by the end of this year. Masks, voluntary social distancing, and high vaccination rates will speed up the process and reduce lockdowns.

Still need massive and continued stimulus especially for the unemployed and food and bar industries.
And where are these trillions and trillions and trillions that govt keeps pumping out coming from?
Debt, higher taxes, and/or increased stimulus related growth.

We really don’t have much of a choice and if you use that argument now, where were you on these issues before?
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:48 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:37 am
And where are these trillions and trillions and trillions that govt keeps pumping out coming from?
Debt, higher taxes, and/or increased stimulus related growth.

We really don’t have much of a choice and if you use that argument now, where were you on these issues before?
Is that trickle down or percolate up?
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:34 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:52 am

Not to mention cold and flu season will be ending in about a month, so seasonality will help play a factor as well.
Cold and flu season hasn't started yet, going by the #s.
....and we already have over 52,000 flu and/or Pneumonia deaths, but those could Covid as well.

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The data also includes deaths attributed to pneumonia or influenza. According to the CDC, deaths caused by COVID-19 might be misclassified as pneumonia or influenza deaths in the death certificates. For that reason, the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 is likely higher than the confirmed data indicates. It is also higher than the daily counts USAFacts compiles from state and local sources.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:48 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:37 am
And where are these trillions and trillions and trillions that govt keeps pumping out coming from?
Debt, higher taxes, and/or increased stimulus related growth.

We really don’t have much of a choice and if you use that argument now, where were you on these issues before?
From several relief bills, and many trillions and trillions ago.
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I've been saying it every time we've had one of these relief bills. How many have we had now, and for how many trillions? I lost count.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:09 am
I found many google searches on people with covid, dying at home. So this is actual evidence that the Covid numbers are low.
:lol: :lol:

Sorry Gil, but that struck me as comical.
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Hopefully Biden has something faster than warp speed, to get the vaccine circulated. Then we can open up business, sports events, bars and restaurants to full capacity, sooner rather than later.
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Mrs. Kalm is now eligible to get jabbed.

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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:50 am Hopefully Biden has something faster than warp speed, to get the vaccine circulated.
:lol: Yeah, it's Trump or Biden that makes that happen.
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