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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:30 am
89Hen wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:50 am
Then my assessment was correct. Your statement I questioned was very misleading, which is why I questioned it. That is all.
Sorry I’m not a better wordsmith. :kisswink:
Honestly was just trying to figure out where you were on it, wasn't meant to be a critique.
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89Hen wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:49 am
kalm wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:30 am

Sorry I’m not a better wordsmith. :kisswink:
Honestly was just trying to figure out where you were on it, wasn't meant to be a critique.
He's a hair right of extreme left, as Palouseual.
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HI54UNI wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:38 am She seems nice. I think they misspelled her name. It should be K A R E N. Video at the link.

Hamilton teacher caught on tape telling students she hopes they 'die' of coronavirus

HAMILTON — A math teacher at Steinert High School was caught on video this week shouting at a group of teenagers playing football in the park that they should “die a long, painful death” from the coronavirus.

The teacher was identified by multiple sources as Nicole Griggs, who has been a township teacher for the last 15 years and also taught middle school

https://www.trentonian.com/news/hamilto ... 8dffd.html
I think they mean she WAS a township teacher.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:53 am
89Hen wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:49 am
Honestly was just trying to figure out where you were on it, wasn't meant to be a critique.
He's a hair right of extreme left, as Palouseual.
Palouseual or Palousexual? :D
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:22 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:53 am
He's a hair right of extreme left, as Palouseual.
Palouseual or Palousexual? :D
It's ambidextrousual.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:33 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:22 am

Palouseual or Palousexual? :D
It's ambidextrousual.
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I had never actually looked at the detailed information the PA government was putting out there (see link)

https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/diseas ... Cases.aspx

From just a cursory review of it, it does beg the question why we are all on lockdown though. Of the 1597 deaths in PA at the time of the report, 990 were from nursing homes or personal care homes. That's almost 2/3 of all deaths are coming in nursing homes and similar facilities. Hospitals are operating with at least 50% capacity, often more like 60%-70% rooms available (so only using 30% to 40% right now, for all care, not just Covid). The shutdown was always to "flatten the curve", which at no times ever meant stopping people from being infected, rather, it was meant to make sure the hospital system wasn't overrun with patients. Clearly, that didn't happen in PA so it worked. Going forward, it does beg the question what are we doing? Nursing homes and similar places probably need to be isolated and barricaded really - it's not a surprise but most of the problems are there. But after that what's the point of staying locked down any further?
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:45 am I had never actually looked at the detailed information the PA government was putting out there (see link)

https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/diseas ... Cases.aspx

From just a cursory review of it, it does beg the question why we are all on lockdown though. Of the 1597 deaths in PA at the time of the report, 990 were from nursing homes or personal care homes. That's almost 2/3 of all deaths are coming in nursing homes and similar facilities. Hospitals are operating with at least 50% capacity, often more like 60%-70% rooms available (so only using 30% to 40% right now, for all care, not just Covid). The shutdown was always to "flatten the curve", which at no times ever meant stopping people from being infected, rather, it was meant to make sure the hospital system wasn't overrun with patients. Clearly, that didn't happen in PA so it worked. Going forward, it does beg the question what are we doing? Nursing homes and similar places probably need to be isolated and barricaded really - it's not a surprise but most of the problems are there. But after that what's the point of staying locked down any further?
The two hardest hit facilities are nursing homes (as you mentioned) and food processing facilities. That's why Sussex County, Delaware has more cases than New Castle County, DE which has more than double the population. Sussex County has a bunch of retirees due to our tax-refugee haven status and oceanfront property and we also have Perdue, Mountaire, and Allen chicken processing plants that are getting wiped out with COVID. Those facilities have people standing shoulder to shoulder to process the meat, and there aren't quick social distancing workarounds.
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Step-sons work had their first 3 cases today. They make shields for covid-19 workers.
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93henfan wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:00 pm
GannonFan wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:45 am I had never actually looked at the detailed information the PA government was putting out there (see link)

https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/diseas ... Cases.aspx

From just a cursory review of it, it does beg the question why we are all on lockdown though. Of the 1597 deaths in PA at the time of the report, 990 were from nursing homes or personal care homes. That's almost 2/3 of all deaths are coming in nursing homes and similar facilities. Hospitals are operating with at least 50% capacity, often more like 60%-70% rooms available (so only using 30% to 40% right now, for all care, not just Covid). The shutdown was always to "flatten the curve", which at no times ever meant stopping people from being infected, rather, it was meant to make sure the hospital system wasn't overrun with patients. Clearly, that didn't happen in PA so it worked. Going forward, it does beg the question what are we doing? Nursing homes and similar places probably need to be isolated and barricaded really - it's not a surprise but most of the problems are there. But after that what's the point of staying locked down any further?
The two hardest hit facilities are nursing homes (as you mentioned) and food processing facilities. That's why Sussex County, Delaware has more cases than New Castle County, DE which has more than double the population. Sussex County has a bunch of retirees due to our tax-refugee haven status and oceanfront property and we also have Perdue, Mountaire, and Allen chicken processing plants that are getting wiped out with COVID. Those facilities have people standing shoulder to shoulder to process the meat, and there aren't quick social distancing workarounds.
I wonder about those places - can't they do a better job with the face coverings? Can they move to respirators or even something lesser like the N95 masks? And obviously they should have gloves anyway - I would hope they've always had that. It still spreads via droplets from breathing or touching, so as long as you mitigate that you should be fine. My plant has pairs of operators work in close proximity during a shift (not always shoulder to shoulder by from time to time they do). There are ways to do it and do it safely, but obviously those places may not be set up to do it quickly, especially if they've been shortchanging it up to now.
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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:00 am
CID1990 wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:50 am
Epidemiologists are supposed to skew towards quarantine

Economists are supposed to skew towards opening up

There likely needs to be a middle ground, and lets face it - people will die

Just blame it on Trump and it’ll be OK

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Don’t disagree at all. Just keeping in mind that the sweet spot is more accurate with greater knowledge of the virus. The economy has already taken a hit but we still have tools and thus a little time to avoid a Great Depression if we utilize them.
What tools are left?
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Goes to show how unprepared Cuomo had his state. What a terrible executive.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:48 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:00 am

Don’t disagree at all. Just keeping in mind that the sweet spot is more accurate with greater knowledge of the virus. The economy has already taken a hit but we still have tools and thus a little time to avoid a Great Depression if we utilize them.
What tools are left?
WPP programs focused on infrastructure, medical infrastructure, tech infrastructure etc.

Austerity for not just the unwashed masses.

More targeted bailouts.

Cuts in non essential government services.

To spitball a few.

Raise high end taxes....gasp!
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Wa state is reopening golf, fishing, and hunting on the 5th. All hell breaks loose in the streets!
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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:52 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:48 pm
What tools are left?
WPP programs focused on infrastructure, medical infrastructure, tech infrastructure etc.

Austerity for not just the unwashed masses.

More targeted bailouts.

Cuts in non essential government services.

To spitball a few.

Raise high end taxes....gasp!
With more trillions of $$$ from where?

Edit: You want to raise taxes in a deep recession? :dunce:
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:04 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:52 pm
WPP programs focused on infrastructure, medical infrastructure, tech infrastructure etc.

Austerity for not just the unwashed masses.

More targeted bailouts.

Cuts in non essential government services.

To spitball a few.

Raise high end taxes....gasp!
With more trillions of $$$ from where?
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:07 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:04 pm
With more trillions of $$$ from where?
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:07 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:04 pm
With more trillions of $$$ from where?
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And after printing more and more trillions of funny money, we’ll have this to look forward to in our trips to the store:
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:21 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:07 pm
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And after printing more and more trillions of funny money, we’ll have this to look forward to in our trips to the store:
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I mentioned the Weimar Republic earlier. That's the kind of road we're heading down if people think the government can just print money to keep people and businesses going.
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We won't be able to afford regular sized wheelbarrows and will be force to use wheelbarrows... for ants?
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:35 pm We won't be able to afford regular sized wheelbarrows and will be force to use wheelbarrows... for ants?
It has to be at least...... THREE times bigger!
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:35 pm We won't be able to afford regular sized wheelbarrows and will be force to use wheelbarrows... for ants?
Is this better ...

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UNI88 wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:38 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:35 pm We won't be able to afford regular sized wheelbarrows and will be force to use wheelbarrows... for ants?
Is this better ...

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Yes honey, I'll pick up a loaf of bread.
Oops I meant to say cut taxes and not spending and still print more money. :clap:
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