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"Unfortunately, committee Republicans have only known this person's identity from news reports for less than 24 hours and known about her allegations for less than a week," Grassley wrote. "Senator Feinstein, on the other hand, has had this information for many weeks and deprived her colleagues of the information necessary to do our jobs. The Minority withheld even the anonymous allegations for six weeks, only to later decide that they were serious enough to investigate on the eve of the committee vote, after the vetting process had been completed."

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mainejeff wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
"Unfortunately, committee Republicans have only known this person's identity from news reports for less than 24 hours and known about her allegations for less than a week," Grassley wrote. "Senator Feinstein, on the other hand, has had this information for many weeks and deprived her colleagues of the information necessary to do our jobs. The Minority withheld even the anonymous allegations for six weeks, only to later decide that they were serious enough to investigate on the eve of the committee vote, after the vetting process had been completed."

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mainejeff wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
"Unfortunately, committee Republicans have only known this person's identity from news reports for less than 24 hours and known about her allegations for less than a week," Grassley wrote. "Senator Feinstein, on the other hand, has had this information for many weeks and deprived her colleagues of the information necessary to do our jobs. The Minority withheld even the anonymous allegations for six weeks, only to later decide that they were serious enough to investigate on the eve of the committee vote, after the vetting process had been completed."

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Republicans never do stuff like this.

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Do you mean to tell me the the GOP isn't withholding hundreds of thousands of documents from Kavanaugh's days in the Bush administration?
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∞∞∞ wrote:Innocent or not, the damage is done. The GOP should find a different candidate; there are other qualified conservative judges. The GOP further alienating itself from voters is not what it needs right now.
Should the Democrats force Keith Ellison to withdraw from his race in Minnesota?
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∞∞∞ wrote:Innocent or not, the damage is done. The GOP should find a different candidate; there are other qualified conservative judges. The GOP further alienating itself from voters is not what it needs right now.
Should the Democrats force Keith Ellison to withdraw from his race in Minnesota?
Absolutely.
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HI54UNI wrote:Feinstein Refuses To Help Set Follow-Up With Kavanaugh's Accuser, Senator Says

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) said in a press statement on Monday that he has tried to coordinate a follow-up with Judge Brett Kavanaugh's accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, with Sen. Dianne Feinstein's (D-CA) office but that she has so far refused.

"Anyone who comes forward as Dr. Ford has deserves to be heard, so I will continue working on a way to hear her out in an appropriate, precedented and respectful manner," Grassley wrote.

"The standard procedure for updates to any nominee’s background investigation file is to conduct separate follow-up calls with relevant parties," Grassley continued. "In this case, that would entail phone calls with at least Judge Kavanaugh and Dr. Ford. Consistent with that practice, I asked Senator Feinstein’s office yesterday to join me in scheduling these follow-ups. Thus far, they have refused. But as a necessary step in evaluating these claims, I’ll continue working to set them up."

Grassley also highlighted Feinstein's decision to sit on the allegations for weeks while the vetting process and confirmation hearings took place.

"Unfortunately, committee Republicans have only known this person's identity from news reports for less than 24 hours and known about her allegations for less than a week," Grassley wrote. "Senator Feinstein, on the other hand, has had this information for many weeks and deprived her colleagues of the information necessary to do our jobs. The Minority withheld even the anonymous allegations for six weeks, only to later decide that they were serious enough to investigate on the eve of the committee vote, after the vetting process had been completed."

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Not rocket science. When you concoct a story to obstruct the confirmation of a slam dunk, why would you cooperate with an attempt to expose your fraud?

As GF said, politics as usual. The good thing is, Democrats are powerless here. They just want to cry a little more. This too shall pass.
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∞∞∞ wrote:I guess I'm not understanding the GOP's reasoning, other than stubbornness. They can get the exact same results without the headaches if they simply nominate someone else, and might even look half-decent doing it if spun correctly. Otherwise, why get stuck on Kavanaugh in the #MeToo era?
There's a lot you don't understand, so that is not a surprise. To give up an incredibly qualified candidate with really an impeccable record because a very active liberal woman accuses him of something from 35 years ago sends a message that all you have to do is have the smallest, unverifiable accusation and you can undermine the entire vetting process... :tothehand: :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Republicans never do stuff like this.

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Politics. Just standard operating procedure for politicians, left or right. It's what they do.
The hell you say. MJ's buddies would never do this.
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Should the Democrats force Keith Ellison to withdraw from his race in Minnesota?
Absolutely.
At least you're consistent. :thumb:
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Hearing reports the private school has scrubbed the web of all online versions of their yearbook. Also hearing that the accuser has scrubbed the web of all social media posts.
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HI54UNI wrote:Hearing reports the private school has scrubbed the web of all online versions of their yearbook. Also hearing that the accuser has scrubbed the web of all social media posts.
She missed a couple. :nod: :nod: :nod:
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HI54UNI wrote:Also hearing that the accuser has scrubbed the web of all social media posts.
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89Hen wrote:I knew it was only a matter of time before I started to find people I know who knew this woman in HS. So far all the reports are she was a notorious party girl in HS and became a huge Dem supporter. TIFIW, but this seems to be adding up to another nothingburger.
Local news last night, wife of a friend was on speaking on Kavanaugh's character from HS. I have yet personally to hear anyone defend this woman from my area who knew her. Too bad people like Trip think it's OK for some random person to undermine our entire process. :ohno:
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89Hen wrote:
89Hen wrote:I knew it was only a matter of time before I started to find people I know who knew this woman in HS. So far all the reports are she was a notorious party girl in HS and became a huge Dem supporter. TIFIW, but this seems to be adding up to another nothingburger.
Local news last night, wife of a friend was on speaking on Kavanaugh's character from HS. I have yet personally to hear anyone defend this woman from my area who knew her. Too bad people like Trip think it's OK for some random person to undermine our entire process. :ohno:
Read today’s WSJ OpEd on this #MeToo ambush.
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HI54UNI wrote:Hearing reports the private school has scrubbed the web of all online versions of their yearbook. Also hearing that the accuser has scrubbed the web of all social media posts.
She missed a couple. :nod: :nod: :nod:
What's out there? Any links to articles?
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89Hen wrote:
89Hen wrote:I knew it was only a matter of time before I started to find people I know who knew this woman in HS. So far all the reports are she was a notorious party girl in HS and became a huge Dem supporter. TIFIW, but this seems to be adding up to another nothingburger.
Local news last night, wife of a friend was on speaking on Kavanaugh's character from HS. I have yet personally to hear anyone defend this woman from my area who knew her. Too bad people like Trip think it's OK for some random person to undermine our entire process. :ohno:
OK, my first friend speaking up for her on FB. I guess it's worth mentioning that he is perhaps the most liberal friend I have.
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93henfan wrote:
89Hen wrote: Local news last night, wife of a friend was on speaking on Kavanaugh's character from HS. I have yet personally to hear anyone defend this woman from my area who knew her. Too bad people like Trip think it's OK for some random person to undermine our entire process. :ohno:
Read today’s WSJ OpEd on this #MeToo ambush.
WashPo had a really stupid OpEd on this. Basically comparing this accusation to serial killers. :dunce:
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houndawg wrote:
Bisonfanatical wrote:
If they have the vote before the November election,and senator heidkampf from ND votes against him, I am sure she will loss her seat to her opponent.
The are other lefty senators who could lose to righty senators over this.
We will see...

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Do you think that will hold true if the charge is substantiated?


...you're right about the Ds have more Senate seats to defend but the fact that a Senate seat in Texas is a dead heat with a political virgin as an opponent......blue tsunami, bro...
That is the interesting part of this, how can you possibly substantiate an accusation from high school as being true when is really hasn't been brought to a court ever in the past?

The country as a whole had not bought into the metoothing.

I believe this will be a short and sweet hearing and then the vote will be held, and that is where the blues could be in trouble by the reds. .. imo

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CAA Flagship wrote: To be fair, most parties I only remember small snapshots of. But I do remember some significant moments at parties. And I think it is possible that a traumatic event, as the one portrayed, could be remembered because it was probably played over and over in her head for quite a while.
I knew it was only a matter of time before I started to find people I know who knew this woman in HS. So far all the reports are she was a notorious party girl in HS and became a huge Dem supporter. TIFIW, but this seems to be adding up to another nothingburger.
That is another point, by drinking at a party being underage she has already broken the law (like most of us? ) and probably lied to her parents about that night and many other nights (like we all did?) And after this accusation of possible attempted rape/murder she expects to be believed even though she never went after him?

I dunno. ..

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Baldy wrote: Unless a major piece of corroborating evidence comes forward, the ones who will be alienating themselves will be the Donks if they try to push this thing.
Nah, the GOP is already struggling with women and now Ford is going to testify. If the GOP plays this incorrectly, it'll hurt. Women are currently leading the charge (and blue wave) this election-cycle.

Just withdraw Kavanaugh's name, confirm another con, and move forward.
The metoogirls don't speak for the right wing ladies at this point in time anymore than they ever have ... imo

Party loyalty is no weaker on the right then on the left, I have witnessed things over the years on both sides that are accepted by the majority because "the other side" did it also they claim.

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mainejeff wrote:Once again John St. Onge is the voice of reason! :thumb:

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I’m not sure where the win is here for either side.

If Kavanaugh gets Borked, Trump is going to pick Barrett, and she’s a lot more onerous to the left than Kavanaugh ever could be

If Trump doesn’t seat another justice, and Barrett winds up being his second nominee, this Kavanaugh thing is going to look like an own goal in hindsight
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∞∞∞ wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
Should the Democrats force Keith Ellison to withdraw from his race in Minnesota?
Absolutely.

This thing is a sham. BTW, Dems received more documentation on Kavanaugh than the previous 4 combined.

More importantly, when Feinstein met with Kavanaugh in her office, why didn’t see mention this then, when it would have been just the two of them?


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93henfan wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:Feinstein Refuses To Help Set Follow-Up With Kavanaugh's Accuser, Senator Says

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) said in a press statement on Monday that he has tried to coordinate a follow-up with Judge Brett Kavanaugh's accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, with Sen. Dianne Feinstein's (D-CA) office but that she has so far refused.

"Anyone who comes forward as Dr. Ford has deserves to be heard, so I will continue working on a way to hear her out in an appropriate, precedented and respectful manner," Grassley wrote.

"The standard procedure for updates to any nominee’s background investigation file is to conduct separate follow-up calls with relevant parties," Grassley continued. "In this case, that would entail phone calls with at least Judge Kavanaugh and Dr. Ford. Consistent with that practice, I asked Senator Feinstein’s office yesterday to join me in scheduling these follow-ups. Thus far, they have refused. But as a necessary step in evaluating these claims, I’ll continue working to set them up."

Grassley also highlighted Feinstein's decision to sit on the allegations for weeks while the vetting process and confirmation hearings took place.

"Unfortunately, committee Republicans have only known this person's identity from news reports for less than 24 hours and known about her allegations for less than a week," Grassley wrote. "Senator Feinstein, on the other hand, has had this information for many weeks and deprived her colleagues of the information necessary to do our jobs. The Minority withheld even the anonymous allegations for six weeks, only to later decide that they were serious enough to investigate on the eve of the committee vote, after the vetting process had been completed."

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Not rocket science. When you concoct a story to obstruct the confirmation of a slam dunk, why would you cooperate with an attempt to expose your fraud?

As GF said, politics as usual. The good thing is, Democrats are powerless here. They just want to cry a little more. This too shall pass.
The Hill is reporting that Blasey has not confirmed her appearance at the hearing Monday.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/407 ... ay-hearing
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93henfan wrote:
Not rocket science. When you concoct a story to obstruct the confirmation of a slam dunk, why would you cooperate with an attempt to expose your fraud?

As GF said, politics as usual. The good thing is, Democrats are powerless here. They just want to cry a little more. This too shall pass.
The Hill is reporting that Blasey has not confirmed her appearance at the hearing Monday.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/407 ... ay-hearing
Cold feet about destroying a good man’s name with a phony allegation?
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