So, the abortion issue is now back in the limelight...

[houndawg]

Nobody can define exactly what Free Will is
science has already shown that humans have no idea what their next thought is going to be

Nobody can define what God is
because no one individual knows any more or less about God than anybody else

All we have is faith... and that means something different to every human
but we don't actually know sh!t

Anybody telling you they "know something" about god they are usually just a brainwashed liar

Neuroscience seems to feel that no hardware = no software.

[89Hen]

Looks like Trip successfully aborted this thread.

[Ibanez]

I'll believe you when I see you cross a busy street without looking both ways...

Bingo..!!!
Also why don't Televangelist Faith Healers go to intensive care ward at the hospital and heal people..?

It's considered unsanitary to have bullshit, out in the open, in an ICU.

[Chizzang]

This is when I knew I was going to enjoy Sam Harris...

"President Bush has claimed, on more that one occasion, to be in active dialogue with God. If he said he was talking to God through his pancakes this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of pancakes makes the claim more ridiculous.."



Harris can be hilarious

[Silenoz]

This is when I knew I was going to enjoy Sam Harris...

"President Bush has claimed, on more that one occasion, to be in active dialogue with God. If he said he was talking to God through his pancakes this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of pancakes makes the claim more ridiculous.."



Harris can be hilarious

Furthermore, Bush could start holding meetings to discuss what God told him, in which case it now qualifies as a bono-fide cult.

[Silenoz]

Faith doesn't give you all the answers, it gives you the comfort to stop asking the questions.

[Silenoz]

Did we solve religion and abortion now? Best thread ever.

[Gil Dobie]

This is when I knew I was going to enjoy Sam Harris...

"President Bush has claimed, on more that one occasion, to be in active dialogue with God. If he said he was talking to God through his pancakes this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of pancakes makes the claim more ridiculous.."



Harris can be hilarious

Furthermore, Bush could start holding meetings to discuss what God told him, in which case it now qualifies as a bono-fide cult.

You might be surprised at some of the people that talk to God, and believe that God answers them. One man's spiritual answer, might be another man's coincidence. If someone believes this or thinks it's a cult, I really don't care. I just don't judge someone based on their faith. It's their actions I watch out for.

[HI54UNI]

God must be a woman because she talks to me all the time. But its about shit I don't want to hear or care about instead of important things like lottery numbers or who is going to win the game. Just like most women.

[CAA Flagship]

God must be a woman because she talks to me all the time. But its about shit I don't want to hear or care about instead of important things like lottery numbers or who is going to win the game. Just like most women.

[Silenoz]

Furthermore, Bush could start holding meetings to discuss what God told him, in which case it now qualifies as a bono-fide cult.

You might be surprised at some of the people that talk to God, and believe that God answers them. One man's spiritual answer, might be another man's coincidence. If someone believes this or thinks it's a cult, I really don't care. I just don't judge someone based on their faith. It's their actions I watch out for.

Of course they do. Just like Spanos truly believes all the shit he says from the bottom his heart.

[Chizzang]

You might be surprised at some of the people that talk to God, and believe that God answers them. One man's spiritual answer, might be another man's coincidence. If someone believes this or thinks it's a cult, I really don't care. I just don't judge someone based on their faith. It's their actions I watch out for.

There's a lot to dissect in there Gil ^
1) No it does not surprise me that people talk to God, programming (brainwashing) is powerful
2) Thinking God is talking to you through daily events is picking and choosing what to believe is magical

If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic..?

You say you don't judge people based on their faith
and yet that is all that humans do - we judge - everything thing is a judgment a measurement a calculation
Think about it for a second... It'll come to you

Gil, What you're saying is you judge them favorably or less severely
that is what people mean when they say "They don't judge" something



They're saying
I've done the calculations already and I judge this as... X = not harmful or X = no big deal
or most likely here as in your case, you do the exact same behavior and so it's obviously okay

[Gil Dobie]

You might be surprised at some of the people that talk to God, and believe that God answers them. One man's spiritual answer, might be another man's coincidence. If someone believes this or thinks it's a cult, I really don't care. I just don't judge someone based on their faith. It's their actions I watch out for.

There's a lot to dissect in there Gil ^
1) No it does not surprise me that people talk to God, programming (brainwashing) is powerful
2) Thinking God is talking to you through daily events is picking and choosing what to believe is magical

If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic..?

You say you don't judge people based on their faith
and yet that is all that humans do - we judge - everything thing is a judgment a measurement a calculation
Think about it for a second... It'll come to you

Gil, What you're saying is you judge them favorably or less severely
that is what people mean when they say "They don't judge" something



They're saying
I've done the calculations already and I judge this as... X = not harmful or X = no big deal

You don't know what I'm saying, yet you think you know what I'm saying. Thank you for sharing, have a nice evening.

[JohnStOnge]

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[andy7171]

There's a lot to dissect in there Gil ^
1) No it does not surprise me that people talk to God, programming (brainwashing) is powerful
2) Thinking God is talking to you through daily events is picking and choosing what to believe is magical

If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic..?

You say you don't judge people based on their faith
and yet that is all that humans do - we judge - everything thing is a judgment a measurement a calculation
Think about it for a second... It'll come to you

Gil, What you're saying is you judge them favorably or less severely
that is what people mean when they say "They don't judge" something



They're saying
I've done the calculations already and I judge this as... X = not harmful or X = no big deal

You don't know what I'm saying, yet you think you know what I'm saying. Thank you for sharing, have a nice evening.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Chizzang]

There's a lot to dissect in there Gil ^
1) No it does not surprise me that people talk to God, programming (brainwashing) is powerful
2) Thinking God is talking to you through daily events is picking and choosing what to believe is magical

If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic..?

You say you don't judge people based on their faith
and yet that is all that humans do - we judge - everything thing is a judgment a measurement a calculation
Think about it for a second... It'll come to you

Gil, What you're saying is you judge them favorably or less severely
that is what people mean when they say "They don't judge" something



They're saying
I've done the calculations already and I judge this as... X = not harmful or X = no big deal

You don't know what I'm saying, yet you think you know what I'm saying. Thank you for sharing, have a nice evening.

*Zing!

Gil,
I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're saying either

[SeattleGriz]

You might be surprised at some of the people that talk to God, and believe that God answers them. One man's spiritual answer, might be another man's coincidence. If someone believes this or thinks it's a cult, I really don't care. I just don't judge someone based on their faith. It's their actions I watch out for.

There's a lot to dissect in there Gil ^
1) No it does not surprise me that people talk to God, programming (brainwashing) is powerful
2) Thinking God is talking to you through daily events is picking and choosing what to believe is magical

If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic..?

You say you don't judge people based on their faith
and yet that is all that humans do - we judge - everything thing is a judgment a measurement a calculation
Think about it for a second... It'll come to you

Gil, What you're saying is you judge them favorably or less severely
that is what people mean when they say "They don't judge" something



They're saying
I've done the calculations already and I judge this as... X = not harmful or X = no big deal
or most likely here as in your case, you do the exact same behavior and so it's obviously okay

So, what's your god say about abortion?

[Chizzang]

There's a lot to dissect in there Gil ^
1) No it does not surprise me that people talk to God, programming (brainwashing) is powerful
2) Thinking God is talking to you through daily events is picking and choosing what to believe is magical

If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic..?

You say you don't judge people based on their faith
and yet that is all that humans do - we judge - everything thing is a judgment a measurement a calculation
Think about it for a second... It'll come to you

Gil, What you're saying is you judge them favorably or less severely
that is what people mean when they say "They don't judge" something



They're saying
I've done the calculations already and I judge this as... X = not harmful or X = no big deal
or most likely here as in your case, you do the exact same behavior and so it's obviously okay

So, what's your god say about abortion?

I have no idea what God wants... nobody does

But if you believe God is all powerful
Then statistically speaking God wants 29,000 children to die every day - give or take a few thousand

[SeattleGriz]

So, what's your god say about abortion?

I have no idea what God wants... nobody does

But if you believe God is all powerful
Then statistically speaking God wants 29,000 children to die every day - give or take a few thousand

Lol. So much fail. I expected more from a varsity letterman

So you really don't know then if God speaks to people?

Interesting.

[Gil Dobie]

You might be surprised at some of the people that talk to God, and believe that God answers them. One man's spiritual answer, might be another man's coincidence. If someone believes this or thinks it's a cult, I really don't care. I just don't judge someone based on their faith. It's their actions I watch out for.

There's a lot to dissect in there Gil ^
1) No it does not surprise me that people talk to God, programming (brainwashing) is powerful
2) Thinking God is talking to you through daily events is picking and choosing what to believe is magical

If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic..?

You say you don't judge people based on their faith
and yet that is all that humans do - we judge - everything thing is a judgment a measurement a calculation
Think about it for a second... It'll come to you

Gil, What you're saying is you judge them favorably or less severely
that is what people mean when they say "They don't judge" something



They're saying
I've done the calculations already and I judge this as... X = not harmful or X = no big deal
or most likely here as in your case, you do the exact same behavior and so it's obviously okay

I actually do know what I'm saying, contrary to your judgement. I'm saying if someone told me they were Muslim, it would not matter, if someone told me they are Christian, it would not matter, if someone told me they were Atheist, it would not matter. I don't go around and tell people they are full of crap because they believe this way or that way or not at all. I don't call their faith magic, Santa Claus based, or BS, everyone has the right to believe the faith or non-faith they want, even if it's different than what I believe.

[andy7171]

Gil is dropping bombs all over SeaTac!

[Chizzang]

Gil is dropping bombs all over SeaTac!

I happen to enjoy Religious debates...
I find it completely fascinating
Andy, it doesn't hurt my feelings when somebody says something with conviction



Gil believes religious faith is sacred and untouchable
I think it's just like any other belief and open for logical debate

it's about the only thing he and I disagree on

[Ibanez]

You might be surprised at some of the people that talk to God, and believe that God answers them. One man's spiritual answer, might be another man's coincidence. If someone believes this or thinks it's a cult, I really don't care. I just don't judge someone based on their faith. It's their actions I watch out for.

There's a lot to dissect in there Gil ^
1) No it does not surprise me that people talk to God, programming (brainwashing) is powerful
2) Thinking God is talking to you through daily events is picking and choosing what to believe is magical

If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic..?

You say you don't judge people based on their faith
and yet that is all that humans do - we judge - everything thing is a judgment a measurement a calculation
Think about it for a second... It'll come to you

Gil, What you're saying is you judge them favorably or less severely
that is what people mean when they say "They don't judge" something



They're saying
I've done the calculations already and I judge this as... X = not harmful or X = no big deal
or most likely here as in your case, you do the exact same behavior and so it's obviously okay

He's saying he judges a person's actions. That's what we do (in addition to judging your smell, looks, education, faith, taste in music,.....)

[CAA Flagship]

There's a lot to dissect in there Gil ^
1) No it does not surprise me that people talk to God, programming (brainwashing) is powerful
2) Thinking God is talking to you through daily events is picking and choosing what to believe is magical

If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic..?

You say you don't judge people based on their faith
and yet that is all that humans do - we judge - everything thing is a judgment a measurement a calculation
Think about it for a second... It'll come to you

Gil, What you're saying is you judge them favorably or less severely
that is what people mean when they say "They don't judge" something



They're saying
I've done the calculations already and I judge this as... X = not harmful or X = no big deal
or most likely here as in your case, you do the exact same behavior and so it's obviously okay

He's saying he judges a person's actions. That's what we do (in addition to judging your smell, looks, education, faith, taste in music,.....)

dick size

[Chizzang]

He's saying he judges a person's actions. That's what we do (in addition to judging your smell, looks, education, faith, taste in music,.....)

He can say whatever he wants...
All decision making is a form of judgement - it's how the brain works - judging measuring calculating
It's all judgement

Saying: I don't judge
is just a cliche' phrase that is used to express that a judgement has already been made
and it requires no further action or additional consideration

It's like saying: I don't see color or race...
It's just a cute way of avoiding the process of logical debate and announcing you're not racist



Words... anyone can use 'em
If I say: I have decided not to choose does that mean I didn't make a choice..?