Colin Kaepernick

[Grizalltheway]

You OK, buddy?

It's called compromise. Ever hear of it?

You should tell 89.

Btw blindly worshipping the flag, which is what some people apparently want, is not a sign of a healthy democracy.

[BDKJMU]

It's called compromise. Ever hear of it?

You should tell 89.

Btw blindly worshipping the flag, which is what some people apparently want, is not a sign of a healthy democracy.

Wrong. People just don't want going out of the way to show disrespect.

You can at the same time not blindly worship something, and at the same time not go out of the way to show disrespect. Not a hard concept to grasp.

[BDKJMU]

Ratings down 9% last year, an additional 11% this year, and will fall further due to the players' protest, and the owners & NFL's tacit approval. Good thing for the NFL the TV contracts go through 2022.

[CAA Flagship]

It's called compromise. Ever hear of it?

You should tell 89.

Btw blindly worshipping the flag, which is what some people apparently want, is not a sign of a healthy democracy.

What do you do at UM games?

[JohnStOnge]

When all was said and done, the NFL ratings overall for the week in which Trump decided to start his nonsense (week 3) were a little bit higher than they were for the same week last year:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/bu ... 703619001/

Otherwise, with all the stuff going on that impacts television ratings...much of which is described in the linked article...it's ridiculous to say the NFL is in trouble because players are kneeling during the national anthem. Trump is completely full of ****. Again.

What gets me is that there are clearly STILL people out there...and a lot of them...who think Trump knows what he's talking about when he says something. I guess it'd be OK to think he knows what he's talking about if he starts talking about how to scam and cheat people or how to fail to live up to agreements. He's done that a lot. It's how he made his money. But other stuff? The guy has no clue.

[BDKJMU]

Yeah, the kneeling had no negative effect on ratings and attendance, just like the economy didn't have any effect on Trump winning..

[AZGrizFan]

I have no problem with their actions. They're causing conversation and debate on a sensitive topic WITHOUT the burning, looting and rioting by other groups allegedly promotion racial equality (I'm looking at YOU, BlackLivesMatters ****). They're not disrespecting the flag, or veterans, or anything of that nature. They're drawing attention to what they perceive as an injustice, in a peaceful way. The way it is supposed to be done.

You OK, buddy?

I'm fine, buddy. How are you doing?

[Grizalltheway]

You should tell 89.

Btw blindly worshipping the flag, which is what some people apparently want, is not a sign of a healthy democracy.

What do you do at UM games?

Drink and bitch about our defensive coordinator.

[CAA Flagship]

What do you do at UM games?

Drink and bitch about our defensive coordinator.

Carry on then.

[89Hen]

Nope. He has it right.

Nope. They refuse to acknowledge what the players are protesting and insist on making it about the troops. Standard tactic for them, attempt change the narrative.

Nope. I had it right.

[89Hen]

It's called compromise. Ever hear of it?

You should tell 89.

Btw blindly worshipping the flag, which is what some people apparently want, is not a sign of a healthy democracy.

I wish nobody blindly worshiped the flag. The should show the proper respect because they have their eyes wide open to what it means. As for compromise, I guess you missed the part where I said the Cowboys nailed it. Taking a knee as a team to make a point and then all standing for the anthem... that's the epitome of compromise.

[GannonFan]

You should tell 89.

Btw blindly worshipping the flag, which is what some people apparently want, is not a sign of a healthy democracy.

I wish nobody blindly worshiped the flag. The should show the proper respect because they have their eyes wide open to what it means. As for compromise, I guess you missed the part where I said the Cowboys nailed it. Taking a knee as a team to make a point and then all standing for the anthem... that's the epitome of compromise.

I'm all in support of people who want to demonstrate with the flag - I've never had a problem with flag burning as a form of protest for instance. Protesting during a time that other people are showing reverence (e.g. during the anthem) is certainly a freedom and something they can do, but you just have to realize the message is going to be thrown in with people now being supremely pissed at you, which is what the NFL anthem kneeling has done. Again, certainly a freedom to do, as it's a freedom for the fans who boo them doing it are free to do, just a question if it's the most effective form of protest to address the societal ill that is being protested in the first place. You're right, the cowboy thing was/is a better way of protesting without interfering with the reverence of the anthem. However, that's probably lost now too since it wasn't the first way the protest was done.

[Grizalltheway]

You should tell 89.

Btw blindly worshipping the flag, which is what some people apparently want, is not a sign of a healthy democracy.

I wish nobody blindly worshiped the flag. The should show the proper respect because they have their eyes wide open to what it means. As for compromise, I guess you missed the part where I said the Cowboys nailed it. Taking a knee as a team to make a point and then all standing for the anthem... that's the epitome of compromise.

The compromise thing refers to AZ saying he doesn't have a problem with players kneeling, since they're at least protesting/expressing themselves in a peaceful and non-destructive way. I'm not saying you have to agree with him, but he does make a good point IMO.

[AZGrizFan]

I wish nobody blindly worshiped the flag. The should show the proper respect because they have their eyes wide open to what it means. As for compromise, I guess you missed the part where I said the Cowboys nailed it. Taking a knee as a team to make a point and then all standing for the anthem... that's the epitome of compromise.

I'm all in support of people who want to demonstrate with the flag - I've never had a problem with flag burning as a form of protest for instance. Protesting during a time that other people are showing reverence (e.g. during the anthem) is certainly a freedom and something they can do, but you just have to realize the message is going to be thrown in with people now being supremely pissed at you, which is what the NFL anthem kneeling has done. Again, certainly a freedom to do, as it's a freedom for the fans who boo them doing it are free to do, just a question if it's the most effective form of protest to address the societal ill that is being protested in the first place. You're right, the cowboy thing was/is a better way of protesting without interfering with the reverence of the anthem. However, that's probably lost now too since it wasn't the first way the protest was done.

Free to protest. Not freedom from consequences. NFL will come down hard on players if viewership and attendance continue to plummet. People have a hard time relating to a bunch of millionaires protesting mistreatment. Even if it is peacefully done.

[CAA Flagship]

I wish nobody blindly worshiped the flag. The should show the proper respect because they have their eyes wide open to what it means. As for compromise, I guess you missed the part where I said the Cowboys nailed it. Taking a knee as a team to make a point and then all standing for the anthem... that's the epitome of compromise.

The compromise thing refers to AZ saying he doesn't have a problem with players kneeling, since they're at least protesting/expressing themselves in a peaceful and non-destructive way. I'm not saying you have to agree with him, but he does make a good point IMO.

"Compromise" was the term I used. Howz about you letting me define it?

[GannonFan]

I'm all in support of people who want to demonstrate with the flag - I've never had a problem with flag burning as a form of protest for instance. Protesting during a time that other people are showing reverence (e.g. during the anthem) is certainly a freedom and something they can do, but you just have to realize the message is going to be thrown in with people now being supremely pissed at you, which is what the NFL anthem kneeling has done. Again, certainly a freedom to do, as it's a freedom for the fans who boo them doing it are free to do, just a question if it's the most effective form of protest to address the societal ill that is being protested in the first place. You're right, the cowboy thing was/is a better way of protesting without interfering with the reverence of the anthem. However, that's probably lost now too since it wasn't the first way the protest was done.

Free to protest. Not freedom from consequences. NFL will come down hard on players if viewership and attendance continue to plummet. People have a hard time relating to a bunch of millionaires protesting mistreatment. Even if it is peacefully done.

The NFL is in a no-win spot here. How can they "come down hard" on the players? Everything labor related has to be by the collective bargaining agreement and I'm not sure there's anything in that that would allow the owners or the NFL to do anything to the players. And really, if they piss the players off too much they risk work stoppages and strikes and that's never good for business. And on the flip side, if this continues for a long period of time, they will continue to alienate the large segment of fans that don't agree with the method of protest (and I'm sure there are a smaller number, but larger than it should be, who don't agree what their protesting). So the NFL can't really do anything but try to keep their employees happy, hope this blows over soon, and hope that the bottom line isn't too impacted by the drops in attendance and viewership. Not an easy spot.

[Grizalltheway]

The compromise thing refers to AZ saying he doesn't have a problem with players kneeling, since they're at least protesting/expressing themselves in a peaceful and non-destructive way. I'm not saying you have to agree with him, but he does make a good point IMO.

"Compromise" was the term I used. Howz about you letting me define it?

Yes but you were responding to houndawg responding to Z.

[89Hen]

I wish nobody blindly worshiped the flag. The should show the proper respect because they have their eyes wide open to what it means. As for compromise, I guess you missed the part where I said the Cowboys nailed it. Taking a knee as a team to make a point and then all standing for the anthem... that's the epitome of compromise.

The compromise thing refers to AZ saying he doesn't have a problem with players kneeling, since they're at least protesting/expressing themselves in a peaceful and non-destructive way. I'm not saying you have to agree with him, but he does make a good point IMO.

That's not a compromise. That's just a different opinion on the situation.

I've never said it wasn't their right to do this. The NFL does have policies regarding the anthem and they have chosen to not take action. That's their right too. What I don't like is people who don't agree with the protest being labelled as "racist".

[CAA Flagship]

"Compromise" was the term I used. Howz about you letting me define it?

Yes but you were responding to houndawg responding to Z.

But you were responding to 89 who responded to you who responded in reference to me responding to houndawg responding to Z.

THIRD BASE!!!!!!

[Grizalltheway]

The compromise thing refers to AZ saying he doesn't have a problem with players kneeling, since they're at least protesting/expressing themselves in a peaceful and non-destructive way. I'm not saying you have to agree with him, but he does make a good point IMO.

That's not a compromise. That's just a different opinion on the situation.

I've never said it wasn't their right to do this. The NFL does have policies regarding the anthem and they have chosen to not take action. That's their right too. What I don't like is people who don't agree with the protest being labelled as "racist".

Tell that to Flaggy then.

[89Hen]

You OK, buddy?

It's called compromise. Ever hear of it?

That's not a compromise.

[CAA Flagship]

It's called compromise. Ever hear of it?

That's not a compromise.

SHHHHH.
That was a dig on houndy and the lefties who never venture away from the wall on the left side of the room.

[Grizalltheway]

It's called compromise. Ever hear of it?

That's not a compromise.

How so? Because they aren't expressing their discontent exactly as you want them to?

[89Hen]

That's not a compromise.

How so? Because they aren't expressing their discontent exactly as you want them to?

You already washed your hands of this.

[BDKJMU]

"NFL Favorability Gets Nearly Cut In Half After Anthem Protests

.....NFL’s Brand Favorability Drops To Lowest Point Since Morning Consult Started Tracking: The NFL’s net favorability has dropped from 30% on September 21 to 17% on September 28. On September 21, 25% of Trump supporters said they had a very favorable view of the NFL and 11% had a very unfavorable view. As of Sept 28, those numbers have dramatically changed with 33% of Trump supporters say they have a very unfavorable view of the NFL and 16% report having a very favorable view......."
http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/29/nfl-f ... -protests/