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Re: 8 - 0 SCOTUS Ruling - There Is No Hate Speech Exemption

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When I was in grad school at Penn State in the early 90's, I encountered several profs who made it clear that any disagreement with their political views would have a negative impact on the students' final grades.

I never encountered that at The Citadel,even though most of my profs (political science) identified as Democrats.
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CitadelGrad wrote:When I was in grad school at Penn State in the early 90's, I encountered several profs who made it clear that any disagreement with their political views would have a negative impact on the students' final grades.

I never encountered that at The Citadel,even though most of my profs (political science) identified as Democrats.
Yeah I had some pretty liberal profs whenever I ventured into the Poli Sci department for a GPA boost

Those were lively classes but I never felt that my grade would be affected over a political disagreement


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CID1990 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:When I was in grad school at Penn State in the early 90's, I encountered several profs who made it clear that any disagreement with their political views would have a negative impact on the students' final grades.

I never encountered that at The Citadel,even though most of my profs (political science) identified as Democrats.
Yeah I had some pretty liberal profs whenever I ventured into the Poli Sci department for a GPA boost

Those were lively classes but I never felt that my grade would be affected over a political disagreement


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Even though most of them identified as Democrats, they were pretty moderate. The most liberal was Liberal Larry Moreland, but even he thought of himself as a moderate. Guys like Davis, Arcilesci, Boykin and Steed liked to call themselves Jeffersonian Democrats. You don't find many Dems these days who will identify with slaveholder Thomas Jefferson.
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Re: 8 - 0 SCOTUS Ruling - There Is No Hate Speech Exemption

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CID1990 wrote:
Yeah I had some pretty liberal profs whenever I ventured into the Poli Sci department for a GPA boost

Those were lively classes but I never felt that my grade would be affected over a political disagreement


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Even though most of them identified as Democrats, they were pretty moderate. The most liberal was Liberal Larry Moreland, but even he thought of himself as a moderate. Guys like Davis, Arcilesci, Boykin and Steed liked to call themselves Jeffersonian Democrats. You don't find many Dems these days who will identify with slaveholder Thomas Jefferson.
I take it that Dr. December Green was after your time


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CitadelGrad wrote:When I was in grad school at Penn State in the early 90's, I encountered several profs who made it clear that any disagreement with their political views would have a negative impact on the students' final grades.

I never encountered that at The Citadel,even though most of my profs (political science) identified as Democrats.
Guess nothing's changed in the last few decades...most of the craziness on campuses goes on in the northeast and west coast.
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CID1990 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Even though most of them identified as Democrats, they were pretty moderate. The most liberal was Liberal Larry Moreland, but even he thought of himself as a moderate. Guys like Davis, Arcilesci, Boykin and Steed liked to call themselves Jeffersonian Democrats. You don't find many Dems these days who will identify with slaveholder Thomas Jefferson.
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Yeah, I suppose so.

I just remembered we did have one rabid Marxist. His name was "Commie" Kingston. They only let him teach American National Government, though.
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AZGrizFan wrote:Too bad Donks don't agree. They believe they should be able to shut down ANY speech they don't agree with.


LOL. Get back to reality. You see more censorship and snowflakery coming from the GOP and the Trumpanzees than you do liberals.



Back to the topic - good ruling. Speech isn't always nice or clean, and maintaining the First Amendments means some will get uncomfortable.
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dbackjon wrote:Back to the topic - good ruling. Speech isn't always nice or clean, and maintaining the First Amendments means some will get uncomfortable.
Amen, faggot!
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Chizzang wrote:
Something has changed... perhaps only my perception
I agree that something has changed. I just don't think that it is a recent phenomenon. IMO, the change started gradually but has been picking up steam. And in many ways it is just a manifestation of the polarization of American politics. BLM/Occupy and the Tea Party are just two sides of the same coin. Too many people are getting their news/information from sources that just reinforce their own thoughts and prejudices and they refuse to listen to or consider alternative points of view. Maybe it started with the birth of the Web and has grown from there. It would be a fascinating study to try and determine the factors influencing polarization and the places where it is having the greatest impact.
Indeed. Great points.

Some of this is also a push back against consolidation of news sources and establishment media too frightened to perform real journalism and call out the power elite and advertisers. Occupy was bound to happen after we were told to believe in perpetual growth. Or consider Chris Matthews championing the war in Iraq.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Yeah I had some pretty liberal profs whenever I ventured into the Poli Sci department for a GPA boost

Those were lively classes but I never felt that my grade would be affected over a political disagreement


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Even though most of them identified as Democrats, they were pretty moderate. The most liberal was Liberal Larry Moreland, but even he thought of himself as a moderate. Guys like Davis, Arcilesci, Boykin and Steed liked to call themselves Jeffersonian Democrats. You don't find many Dems these days who will identify with slaveholder Thomas Jefferson.
I don't know about Democrats but I know of many liberals who appreciate Jefferson.

I'm a bit of a Jeffersonian conservative myself... :mrgreen:
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dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Too bad Donks don't agree. They believe they should be able to shut down ANY speech they don't agree with.


LOL. Get back to reality. You see more censorship and snowflakery coming from the GOP and the Trumpanzees than you do liberals.



Back to the topic - good ruling. Speech isn't always nice or clean, and maintaining the First Amendments means some will get uncomfortable.
SEN Feinstein doesn't agree with you, Corky

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93henfan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Back to the topic - good ruling. Speech isn't always nice or clean, and maintaining the First Amendments means some will get uncomfortable.
Amen, faggot!

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CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:


LOL. Get back to reality. You see more censorship and snowflakery coming from the GOP and the Trumpanzees than you do liberals.



Back to the topic - good ruling. Speech isn't always nice or clean, and maintaining the First Amendments means some will get uncomfortable.
SEN Feinstein doesn't agree with you, Corky

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/06/20/s ... -campuses/
$he need$ to retire.
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dbackjon wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
SEN Feinstein doesn't agree with you, Corky

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/06/20/s ... -campuses/
$he need$ to retire.
You don't think her replacement wont have an even stronger (more "progressive") opinion?



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CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
$he need$ to retire.
You don't think her replacement wont have an even stronger (more "progressive") opinion?



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Ivytalk wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You don't think her replacement wont have an even stronger (more "progressive") opinion?



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I'd rather have two Feinsteins than one Kamala Harris.


You would. Feinstein is a corporate all the way. Harris is a fighter for the rest of us.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: I'd rather have two Feinsteins than one Kamala Harris.


You would. Feinstein is a corporate all the way. Harris is a fighter for the rest of us.
C'mon, man! She's a female Obama and twice as devious.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: I'd rather have two Feinsteins than one Kamala Harris.


You would. Feinstein is a corporate all the way. Harris is a fighter for the rest of us.
Harris is a fighter for Progressives...no one else...

That is far from "the rest of us"...
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Col Hogan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:


You would. Feinstein is a corporate all the way. Harris is a fighter for the rest of us.
Harris is a fighter for Progressives...no one else...

That is far from "the rest of us"...

Progressives look out for all.

Republicans wake up every day worried that someone, somewhere, is getting something they don't deserve.

Democrats wake up everyday worried that someone, somewhere, isn't getting something they need.
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dbackjon wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Harris is a fighter for Progressives...no one else...

That is far from "the rest of us"...

Progressives look out for all.

Republicans wake up every day worried that someone, somewhere, is getting something they don't deserve.

Democrats wake up everyday worried that someone, somewhere, isn't getting something they need.
Who gets to define "need"?
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dbackjon wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Harris is a fighter for Progressives...no one else...

That is far from "the rest of us"...

Progressives look out for all.

Republicans wake up every day worried that someone, somewhere, is getting something they don't deserve.

Democrats wake up everyday worried that someone, somewhere, isn't getting something they need.
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dbackjon wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Harris is a fighter for Progressives...no one else...

That is far from "the rest of us"...

Progressives look out for all.

Republicans wake up every day worried that someone, somewhere, is getting something they don't deserve.

Democrats wake up everyday worried that someone, somewhere, isn't getting something they need.
Of course, as long as someone else pays for it.

Liberals seem to be great at implimenting their new ideas, but unfortunately, short on funding it with their own cash?

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dbackjon wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Harris is a fighter for Progressives...no one else...

That is far from "the rest of us"...

Progressives look out for all.

Republicans wake up every day worried that someone, somewhere, is getting something they don't deserve.

Democrats wake up everyday worried that someone, somewhere, isn't getting something they need.
Two of those groups envision a model that is designed with the assumption that all people think and act the same.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: I'd rather have two Feinsteins than one Kamala Harris.


You would. Feinstein is a corporate all the way. Harris is a fighter for the rest of us.
Yep on Feinstein. :nod: Progressives tend to not support the security state and loss of privacy rights.

When's that dreamboat, Gavin Newsome gonna seek higher office?
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kalm wrote:
dbackjon wrote:


You would. Feinstein is a corporate all the way. Harris is a fighter for the rest of us.
Yep on Feinstein. :nod: Progressives tend to not support the security state and loss of privacy rights.

When's that dreamboat, Gavin Newsome gonna seek higher office?
But they do largely support the idea that what they consider to be "hate speech" should not be protected by the 1st Amendment

Which is why we got on the subject of Feinstein in the first place
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