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GannonFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Quick question that I'm seeing analysts bring up, but do you think the GOP as we've known it is dead? If you have such a strong split in ideologies within party members that we're speaking of sabotage now, don't you essentially have two parties that are simply sharing the same name (even if they don't realize it yet)?
Parties change and adapt all the time. Not everyone in either party fully buys the party line. Heck, the Dems talk all the time about how big their tent is. Heck, even when the GOP has been sweeping elections (other than President) everywhere else the GOP guy winning in Mississippi is selling something different than the GOP guy winning in Massachusetts. But yes, the GOP is certainly changing at this time.
Aw heck, is it really changing or finally owning up to it's platform? :mrgreen:
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∞∞∞ wrote:Quick question that I'm seeing analysts bring up, but do you think the GOP as we've known it is dead? If you have such a strong split in ideologies within party members that we're speaking of sabotage now, don't you essentially have two parties that are simply sharing the same name (even if they don't realize it yet)?
Because of 1 candidate in 1 election? Republicans control:
-Senate
-House
-close to 2/3 (31) of Governorships
-a majority of Lt Gov
-a majority of state attorney generals
-a majority of state legislative bodies & state legislatures.
-a majority of locally held offices..

About the only thing the republicans don't control is the WH...that's not close to dead..
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I think it will backfire. I was listening to Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity yesterday (for the entertainment value) and every single caller was disgusted with Mittens. Glenn and Sean weren't happy with his Anti-Trump passion when he showed none for Obama. People feel betrayed and, it's no secret, that many of the callers specifically stated that voting for Trump is a "middle finger" to Washington.
Mitt is a dork. He's weaker than Rubio and that's saying something.
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Jim Webb: I won't vote for Clinton, but I may for Trump
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/j ... z41xClCyut
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Hey, Klam, your man Chris Hedges is in full-throated roar about Trump and the rise of American fascism. March 2 column on TruthDig. Can't grab the link on my iPad. Can you post it?
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BDKJMU wrote:Jim Webb: I won't vote for Clinton, but I may for Trump
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/j ... z41xClCyut

Rumor is that Jimmy doesn't treat women in the workplace very well.
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Re: 2016 Republican Primary

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Ivytalk wrote:Hey, Klam, your man Chris Hedges is in full-throated roar about Trump and the rise of American fascism. March 2 column on TruthDig. Can't grab the link on my iPad. Can you post it?
You betcha:
Fascism is aided and advanced by the apathy of those who are tired of being conned and lied to by a bankrupt liberal establishment, whose only reason to vote for a politician or support a political party is to elect the least worst. This, for many voters, is the best Clinton can offer.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the ... m_20160302

:rofl:

Hedges is as hysterical as JSO. But as always, a very interesting read.
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Hey, Klam, your man Chris Hedges is in full-throated roar about Trump and the rise of American fascism. March 2 column on TruthDig. Can't grab the link on my iPad. Can you post it?
You betcha:
Fascism is aided and advanced by the apathy of those who are tired of being conned and lied to by a bankrupt liberal establishment, whose only reason to vote for a politician or support a political party is to elect the least worst. This, for many voters, is the best Clinton can offer.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the ... m_20160302

:rofl:

Hedges is as hysterical as JSO. But as always, a very interesting read.
...and just as nutty. :nod:
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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
You betcha:



http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the ... m_20160302

:rofl:

Hedges is as hysterical as JSO. But as always, a very interesting read.
...and just as nutty. :nod:
And an ordained Presbyterian minister who's an avowed socialist. His version of the bible and understanding of Jesus must be different in than JSO's.

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Cruz looks to be benefitting from the Koch/Romney smear campaign. Wins Kansas and Maine.

How long until Trump goes third party? Either way, Trump owns the GOP.
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93henfan wrote:Cruz looks to be benefitting from the Koch/Romney smear campaign. Wins Kansas and Maine.

How long until Trump goes third party? Either way, Trump owns the GOP.
That's a guarantee. Only a matter of time.

If I was Trump, I would completely switch off the game plan and go on message about the issues details every single speech every single time. We already know that he's quick that switch things up on the fly which is a quality that I can admire in a leader. Too many times you see people who want to "stay the course" stick to their guns, stick to their principles, in the face of everything crashing and burning around them which is how I see a Cruz presidency operating to be honest.
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BDKJMU wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Quick question that I'm seeing analysts bring up, but do you think the GOP as we've known it is dead? If you have such a strong split in ideologies within party members that we're speaking of sabotage now, don't you essentially have two parties that are simply sharing the same name (even if they don't realize it yet)?
Because of 1 candidate in 1 election? Republicans control:
-Senate
-House
-close to 2/3 (31) of Governorships
-a majority of Lt Gov
-a majority of state attorney generals
-a majority of state legislative bodies & state legislatures.
-a majority of locally held offices..

About the only thing the republicans don't control is the WH...that's not close to dead..
So why don't they do something about the economy? :coffee:
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Trump wins Kentucky and, wait for it,.......


JSO's home state of Louisiana. :notworthy:
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Kentucky
D. Trump 35.9% 82,493 16 delegates
T. Cruz 31.6% 72,503 14 delegates
M. Rubio 16.4% 37,579 7 delegates
J. Kasich 14.4% 33,134 6 delegates
B. Carson 0.9% 1,953
R. Paul 0.4%

Kansas
T. Cruz 48.2% 35,207 24 delegates
D. Trump 23.3% 17,062 9 delegates
M. Rubio 16.7% 12,189 6 delegates
J. Kasich 10.7% 7,795 1 delegates
B. Carson 0.7%

Louisiana
D. Trump 41.5% 124,759 15 delegates
T. Cruz 37.8% 113,903 14 delegates
M. Rubio 11.2% 33,749
J. Kasich 6.4% 19,330
B. Carson 1.5% 4,543
J. Bush 0.7% 2,144
R. Paul 0.2% 667
M. Huckabee 0.2% 645
C. Christie 0.1% 401
C. Fiorina 0.1% 243
T. Cook 0.1% 219
R. Santorum 0.1% 180
L. Graham 0.1% 151

Maine
T. Cruz 45.9% 8,550 12 delegates
D. Trump 32.6% 6,070 9 delegates
J. Kasich 12.2% 2,270 2 delegates
M. Rubio 8.0% 1,492
B. Carson 0.7% 132
R. Paul 0.3% 55
J. Bush 0.2% 31
C. Fiorina 0.1% 17
M. Huckabee 0.1% 10
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Updates delegate count (1237 needed to win nomination)
Trump 378
Cruz 295
Rubio 123
Kasich 34
5 more candidates between 1-8 delegates.
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/r ... nt-tracker
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93henfan wrote:Trump wins Kentucky and, wait for it,.......


JSO's home state of Louisiana. :notworthy:
JSO must be on suicide watch. :lol:
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SDHornet wrote:
93henfan wrote:Trump wins Kentucky and, wait for it,.......


JSO's home state of Louisiana. :notworthy:
JSO must be on suicide watch. :lol:
Ah do declare he appears to have taken the vapors...
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93henfan wrote:Trump wins Kentucky and, wait for it,.......


JSO's home state of Louisiana. :notworthy:
I thought of that last night and chuckled. I bet him and his wife lost their minds last night.
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Re: 2016 Republican Primary

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Sounds like the establishment wants a brokered convention but Cruz is looking to take down Rubio in Florida and turn it into a two man race. All four remaining in the race gives the establishment the best shot at taking down Trump and I don't think they're all that fired up at the possibility of a Cruz nomination anyway. Trump would dominate Cruz head to head (unless I'm underestimating the stupidity of Republican Primary voters...which I might be.

RCP has Kasich now ahead in at least one poll taken yesterday in Michigan and you have to think he's going to carry Ohio. I haven't seen the math to see if there are enough northern/purple state delegates left for Kasich to remain relevant, but at a brokered convention he might be the favorite.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/artic ... in-florida
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Rubio's latest firewall is Puerto Rico, which votes today. And he's campaigning in Spanish! :lol: If Canadian Cruz beats him there, he should get out. :nod:
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Ivytalk wrote:Rubio's latest firewall is Puerto Rico, which votes today. And he's campaigning in Spanish! :lol: If Canadian Cruz beats him there, he should get out. :nod:
This is unpatriotic. He should be speaking in 'Murican. :evil:
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Ivytalk wrote:Rubio's latest firewall is Puerto Rico, which votes today. And he's campaigning in Spanish! :lol: If Canadian Cruz beats him there, he should get out. :nod:
This is why he would crush hilldog in the general...unfortunately he isn't going to get that far. :ohno:
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