That's looking pretty stupid now, isn't it?
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Strategerykalm wrote:How do you think Romney or Palin would have stopped this? Which 1980's policies would they have used?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico- ... 84276.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;SuperHornet wrote:600-ship Navy, among other things. The prototypical Obamanian response to world crises (rekindling of the Cold War, Iran, North Korea, etc.) has been, "Let's shrink the military." We're going to get caught with our pants down one of these days because of that trash....

Czech stuff is better anyway...or so I've heard.kalm wrote:I'm doing my part by boycotting Russian porn.

There's some great amateur talent wandering their streets...supposedly.Grizalltheway wrote:Czech stuff is better anyway...or so I've heard.kalm wrote:I'm doing my part by boycotting Russian porn.

SuperHornet wrote:600-ship Navy, among other things. The prototypical Obamanian response to world crises (rekindling of the Cold War, Iran, North Korea, etc.) has been, "Let's shrink the military." We're going to get caught with our pants down one of these days because of that trash....


I keep imagining that you're pretending to be this dumb...SuperHornet wrote:During the 2012 Presidential debates, President Obama snidely chided Candidate Romney that, "The 1980s are calling for their foreign policy back...uh...because the Cold War has been over for 20 years."
That's looking pretty stupid now, isn't it?
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Agreed, this is not like the Cold War, it much more closely parallels Hitler's initial move into Czechoslovakia. Perhaps if the Ukraine had not given up its nuclear arsenal this might not have happened.∞∞∞ wrote:I'm not really sure you can compare the crisis in the Ukraine to the Cold War.
Let me know when humanity is in constant fear of nuclear annihilation and maybe we can talk...

That's true. It's the biggest mistake we ever made....AZGrizFan wrote:SuperHornet wrote:600-ship Navy, among other things. The prototypical Obamanian response to world crises (rekindling of the Cold War, Iran, North Korea, etc.) has been, "Let's shrink the military." We're going to get caught with our pants down one of these days because of that trash....![]()
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We haven't had even CLOSE to a 600 ship navy since 1990. We've been steadily shrinking the military since Bush I was president.


If we had a larger Navy, we could send over a RESTED Carrier Strike Group and Expeditionary Strike Group to defend the Ukraine from the Black Sea.BlueHen86 wrote:http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico- ... 84276.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;SuperHornet wrote:600-ship Navy, among other things. The prototypical Obamanian response to world crises (rekindling of the Cold War, Iran, North Korea, etc.) has been, "Let's shrink the military." We're going to get caught with our pants down one of these days because of that trash....
From the article:
President Barack Obama has no good military options to pressure Russia to leave Ukrainian territory, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers said Sunday.
“There is not a lot of options on the table and, candidly, I’m a fairly hawkish guy, sending more naval forces to operate in the Black Sea is really not a very good idea, given that we know that that day has long passed,” the Michigan Republican said on “Fox News Sunday.” “And unless you’re intending to use them, I wouldn’t send them. Now you’ve got only economic options through the EU.”
I'm not sure that a larger navy is going to help in this case.


Um...have you not been paying attention? Red China has nukes, Iran probably does by now, and a rogue state with an unstable leader in North Korea DEFINITELY has them. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sovs haven't been hiding some from our inspectors, as well....∞∞∞ wrote:I'm not really sure you can compare the crisis in the Ukraine to the Cold War.
Let me know when humanity is in constant fear of nuclear annihilation and maybe we can talk...


WASHINGTON—Following Russia's controversial military excursions into neighboring Georgia, the Bush administration made its most direct commitment to the U.S.'s Eastern European allies to date by "strongly advising" those countries not to border Russia under any circumstance. "The United States stands by its allies, but will not be able to defend our friends in the region if they continue to share geographical lines with Russia," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said at a Monday press conference. "We also recommend that those nations who may not border Russia but were once a part of the USSR immediately cease and desist from having had that history with the Soviet Union." Rice later pledged financial aid to the victims of devastating flooding in the West African nation of Togo, effective upon the country first meeting the stipulation of removing itself from under water.



I doubt if a RESTED Carrier Strike Group and Expeditionary Strike Group would be enough to deter Russia or defend Ukraine.SuperHornet wrote:If we had a larger Navy, we could send over a RESTED Carrier Strike Group and Expeditionary Strike Group to defend the Ukraine from the Black Sea.BlueHen86 wrote:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico- ... 84276.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From the article:
President Barack Obama has no good military options to pressure Russia to leave Ukrainian territory, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers said Sunday.
“There is not a lot of options on the table and, candidly, I’m a fairly hawkish guy, sending more naval forces to operate in the Black Sea is really not a very good idea, given that we know that that day has long passed,” the Michigan Republican said on “Fox News Sunday.” “And unless you’re intending to use them, I wouldn’t send them. Now you’ve got only economic options through the EU.”
I'm not sure that a larger navy is going to help in this case.

It's just as non-sensical as the stuff you post, only it's funny.SuperHornet wrote:That's got to be Onion material....
First of all, I don't even know why you're scared of China.SuperHornet wrote:Um...have you not been paying attention? Red China has nukes, Iran probably does by now, and a rogue state with an unstable leader in North Korea DEFINITELY has them. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sovs haven't been hiding some from our inspectors, as well....∞∞∞ wrote:I'm not really sure you can compare the crisis in the Ukraine to the Cold War.
Let me know when humanity is in constant fear of nuclear annihilation and maybe we can talk...

SuperHornet wrote:If we had a larger Navy, we could send over a RESTED Carrier Strike Group and Expeditionary Strike Group to defend the Ukraine from the Black Sea.BlueHen86 wrote:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico- ... 84276.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From the article:
President Barack Obama has no good military options to pressure Russia to leave Ukrainian territory, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers said Sunday.
“There is not a lot of options on the table and, candidly, I’m a fairly hawkish guy, sending more naval forces to operate in the Black Sea is really not a very good idea, given that we know that that day has long passed,” the Michigan Republican said on “Fox News Sunday.” “And unless you’re intending to use them, I wouldn’t send them. Now you’ve got only economic options through the EU.”
I'm not sure that a larger navy is going to help in this case.

Military action isn't the answer here (or rarely). Our Navy is plenty big...especially if we weren't preoccupied with saving every half-assed country around the globe from their inevitable fate.SuperHornet wrote:That's true. It's the biggest mistake we ever made....AZGrizFan wrote:![]()
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We haven't had even CLOSE to a 600 ship navy since 1990. We've been steadily shrinking the military since Bush I was president.


AZGrizFan wrote:Military action isn't the answer here (or rarely). Our Navy is plenty big...especially if we weren't preoccupied with saving every half-assed country around the globe from their inevitable fate.SuperHornet wrote:
That's true. It's the biggest mistake we ever made....

Isn't that what I just said?Cap'n Cat wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Military action isn't the answer here (or rarely). Our Navy is plenty big...especially if we weren't preoccupied with saving every half-assed country around the globe from their inevitable fate.
Our choice……not necessarily theirs, Z.


No. You're just another old-line Conk belly-achin' about spending money to help Spain patrol their coast, something WE want to do, but about which they could care less.AZGrizFan wrote:Isn't that what I just said?Cap'n Cat wrote:
Our choice……not necessarily theirs, Z.