The Field

[Gil Dobie]

Given the current field (the presence of UNI aside, though they DO have a win against at least one seed), I would have seeded it as follows:

1. NDSU
2. SHSU
3. Sac State
4. JMU
5. Montana State
6. Villanova
7. Montana
8. EWU

I rationalize dropping undefeated SHSU due to the SOS inherent in their schedule. NDSU's is much higher by comparison. While neither played any FBS games, NDSU beat FOUR playoff teams. Actually, I find JMIU and SHSU pretty much a crapshoot in that they had no FBS games and avoided playoff games almost completely. SHSU did beat one, skating by SFA by one point. I'll leave SHSU in 2, but bump Sac past JMU on the basis of Sac's 2-1 record against playoff teams, and the fact that Sac's P5 loss was relatively decent, counterbalancing the regional loss to UNI. MSU is a bit further back, with a 1-1 record against playoff teams, a VERY close FBS loss, and decent performance against bubble teams who didn't make it. Villanova is further down with a weak schedule, though they DO have a win vs. a fellow seed. Montana comes next because they have a 1-2 record vs. seeds, but they DO get a seed because they have a P5 scalp. Last comes EWU; while they are 2-1 vs. seeds with an FBS win, UNLV doesn't come close to a P5 (Montana's FBS win), and the Eagles tailed of to some degree at the end. The one I dropped out of the seeds to encompass EWU was ETSU; while they DO have a P5 scalp, that is counterbalanced by a sub-D-I game and the fact that they have NO games against playoff teams....

Nova beat JMU head-to-head and finished with the same record in the conference.

[SuperHornet]

That's one reason I downgraded JMU somewhat.

[UNI88]

True. And you also shit the bed against a “subpar opponent” at home. Lost by 18. Like I said, recency bias. At best, your resume is as good. Or do you really think top 5 in the polls and Massey, 9-2 Big Sky team with 3 quality wins including an FBS shouldn’t be seeded?

Lol. That was our 2nd game after going 90 some odd weeks prior with no games played. We play UNI at home now and we win by 20.

Good luck in Missoula in 2 weeks.

It would have to be 20-0 to win by 20. That or you need turnovers that lead to scores. UNI's offense might be maddeningly inconsistent but the defense is legit when they're not playing prevent.

[kalm]

Lol. That was our 2nd game after going 90 some odd weeks prior with no games played. We play UNI at home now and we win by 20.

Good luck in Missoula in 2 weeks.

It would have to be 20-0 to win by 20. That or you need turnovers that lead to scores. UNI's offense might be maddeningly inconsistent but the defense is legit when they're not playing prevent.

Do you think the secondary is on par with the Montana’s and Weber?

[UNI88]

It would have to be 20-0 to win by 20. That or you need turnovers that lead to scores. UNI's offense might be maddeningly inconsistent but the defense is legit when they're not playing prevent.

Do you think the secondary is on par with the Montana’s and Weber?

I haven't watched enough Montana or Weber games to say. The UNI DBs gamble more than I like but they're pretty damn good. Omar Brown is a shutdown corner and Bennie Sapp III is a stud at safety. They have playmakers at all 3 levels on the defense.

How good is the Eagle's O LIne?

[kalm]

Do you think the secondary is on par with the Montana’s and Weber?

I haven't watched enough Montana or Weber games to say. The UNI DBs gamble more than I like but they're pretty damn good. Omar Brown is a shutdown corner and Bennie Sapp III is a stud at safety. They have playmakers at all 3 levels on the defense.

How good is the Eagle's O LIne?

Very good at pass pro especially considering the blutzingcweve seen. Solid in the running game at times but have failed in a couple key short yardage situations.

[UNI88]

I haven't watched enough Montana or Weber games to say. The UNI DBs gamble more than I like but they're pretty damn good. Omar Brown is a shutdown corner and Bennie Sapp III is a stud at safety. They have playmakers at all 3 levels on the defense.

How good is the Eagle's O LIne?

Very good at pass pro especially considering the blutzingcweve seen. Solid in the running game at times but have failed in a couple key short yardage situations.

UNI's D LIne is excellent, especially Brinkman (FCS Aaron Donald). It will be interesting to see how much penetration they get and whether they can contain Barriere.

How is the Eagle D Line? They might be facing the biggest O Line they've seen.

[AZGrizFan]

Very good at pass pro especially considering the blutzingcweve seen. Solid in the running game at times but have failed in a couple key short yardage situations.

UNI's D LIne is excellent, especially Brinkman (FCS Aaron Donald). It will be interesting to see how much penetration they get and whether they can contain Barriere.

How is the Eagle D Line? They might be facing the biggest O Line they've seen.

Bigger than Montana's? That's a stretch...

LT: Conlan Beaver 6'5", 315 lbs
LG: Hunter Mayginnes 6'5", 330 lbs
C: AJ Forbes 6'4", 303 lbs
RG: Moses Mallory 6'3", 332 lbs
RT: Dylan Cook 6'6", 305 lbs

Backups go 6'4", 300, 6'3", 319, 6'6", 320, 6'5", 302, 6'6", 330, 6'5", 307.

[UNI88]

UNI's D LIne is excellent, especially Brinkman (FCS Aaron Donald). It will be interesting to see how much penetration they get and whether they can contain Barriere.

How is the Eagle D Line? They might be facing the biggest O Line they've seen.

Bigger than Montana's? That's a stretch...

LT: Conlan Beaver 6'5", 315 lbs
LG: Hunter Mayginnes 6'5", 330 lbs
C: AJ Forbes 6'4", 303 lbs
RG: Moses Mallory 6'3", 332 lbs
RT: Dylan Cook 6'6", 305 lbs

Backups go 6'4", 300, 6'3", 319, 6'6", 320, 6'5", 302, 6'6", 330, 6'5", 307.

I think I have this right. clenz can point out any errors.

LT: Trevor Penning - 6' 7", 321 lbs
LG: Jared Penning - 6' 6", 338 lbs
C: Erik Sorensen - 6' 6", 320 lbs
RG: Justin Peine - 6' 6", 329 lbs
RT: Antione Frazier - 6' 5", 300 lbs

Trevor Penning is the only offensive lineman on the Walter Payton Award watch list.

[kalm]

Very good at pass pro especially considering the blutzingcweve seen. Solid in the running game at times but have failed in a couple key short yardage situations.

UNI's D LIne is excellent, especially Brinkman (FCS Aaron Donald). It will be interesting to see how much penetration they get and whether they can contain Barriere.

How is the Eagle D Line? They might be facing the biggest O Line they've seen.

Better than in the spring when we got run over by NDSU but not great and undersized compared to that kind. The LB’s and safeties are solid but again, undersized.

[UNI88]

UNI's D LIne is excellent, especially Brinkman (FCS Aaron Donald). It will be interesting to see how much penetration they get and whether they can contain Barriere.

How is the Eagle D Line? They might be facing the biggest O Line they've seen.

Better than in the spring when we got run over by NDSU but not great and undersized compared to that kind. The LB’s and safeties are solid but again, undersized.

Watch #70, he's a beast that plays to the whistle, road grading opponents and pissing them off.

[AZGrizFan]

Bigger than Montana's? That's a stretch...

LT: Conlan Beaver 6'5", 315 lbs
LG: Hunter Mayginnes 6'5", 330 lbs
C: AJ Forbes 6'4", 303 lbs
RG: Moses Mallory 6'3", 332 lbs
RT: Dylan Cook 6'6", 305 lbs

Backups go 6'4", 300, 6'3", 319, 6'6", 320, 6'5", 302, 6'6", 330, 6'5", 307.

I think I have this right. clenz can point out any errors.

LT: Trevor Penning - 6' 7", 321 lbs
LG: Jared Penning - 6' 6", 338 lbs
C: Erik Sorensen - 6' 6", 320 lbs
RG: Justin Peine - 6' 6", 329 lbs
RT: Antione Frazier - 6' 5", 300 lbs

Trevor Penning is the only offensive lineman on the Walter Payton Award watch list.

That’s big!

[SDHornet]

I haven't watched enough Montana or Weber games to say. The UNI DBs gamble more than I like but they're pretty damn good. Omar Brown is a shutdown corner and Bennie Sapp III is a stud at safety. They have playmakers at all 3 levels on the defense.

How good is the Eagle's O LIne?

Very good at pass pro especially considering the blutzingcweve seen. Solid in the running game at times but have failed in a couple key short yardage situations.

How much would you attribute that to play calling?

[SDHornet]

I think I have this right. clenz can point out any errors.

LT: Trevor Penning - 6' 7", 321 lbs
LG: Jared Penning - 6' 6", 338 lbs
C: Erik Sorensen - 6' 6", 320 lbs
RG: Justin Peine - 6' 6", 329 lbs
RT: Antione Frazier - 6' 5", 300 lbs

Trevor Penning is the only offensive lineman on the Walter Payton Award watch list.

That’s big!

Corn fed Iowans.

[kalm]

Very good at pass pro especially considering the blutzingcweve seen. Solid in the running game at times but have failed in a couple key short yardage situations.

How much would you attribute that to play calling?

Much of it. That last 4th and 3 against the cats was straight zone. Doesn’t make sense to not have it in EB3’s hands in that situation but we’ve seen it way too much. Hopefully that changes with McCann calling the plays now.

[SDHornet]

How much would you attribute that to play calling?

Much of it. That last 4th and 3 against the cats was straight zone. Doesn’t make sense to not have it in EB3’s hands in that situation but we’ve seen it way too much. Hopefully that changes with McCann calling the plays now.

I was watching that and thought how awful a call that was. I fully expected EWU to make a game winning drive, fortunately for us Hornet fans we had Montucky cleanup your mess and help us get our ourtight BSC crown.

[kalm]

Much of it. That last 4th and 3 against the cats was straight zone. Doesn’t make sense to not have it in EB3’s hands in that situation but we’ve seen it way too much. Hopefully that changes with McCann calling the plays now.

I was watching that and thought how awful a call that was. I fully expected EWU to make a game winning drive, fortunately for us Hornet fans we had Montucky cleanup your mess and help us get our ourtight BSC crown.

That’s great to see and congrats! I knew Taylor was going to be a great hire.

[SDHornet]

I was watching that and thought how awful a call that was. I fully expected EWU to make a game winning drive, fortunately for us Hornet fans we had Montucky cleanup your mess and help us get our ourtight BSC crown.

That’s great to see and congrats! I knew Taylor was going to be a great hire.

I was surprised we landed him. No we need Cal to win so they don't get any ideas about hiring him away.

[Grizzlies1982]

That’s great to see and congrats! I knew Taylor was going to be a great hire.

I was surprised we landed him. No we need Cal to win so they don't get any ideas about hiring him away.

"Need Cal to win".

That is like last night during the Apple Bowl when the announcers said "All Washington State needs now is for Oregon State to beat Oregon and Wazzu is the division champs". Okay.

Not sure whom Cal is playing but needing Oregon State to beat anyone is usually wishful thinking. Needing them to beat the Ducks is delusional.

[SuperHornet]

That’s great to see and congrats! I knew Taylor was going to be a great hire.

I was surprised we landed him. No we need Cal to win so they don't get any ideas about hiring him away.

SD knows my likely responses to THAT, so I'll just keep my mouth shut. LOL.

(I mean the aftermath of a Taylor departure to Cal, or anywhere else, not whether or not I want it to happen. Given the results Taylor has generated so far, I'd be in favor of his pulling a 50-year tenure, should he want it.)

[UNI88]

I was surprised we landed him. No we need Cal to win so they don't get any ideas about hiring him away.

"Need Cal to win".

That is like last night during the Apple Bowl when the announcers said "All Washington State needs now is for Oregon State to beat Oregon and Wazzu is the division champs". Okay.

Not sure whom Cal is playing but needing Oregon State to beat anyone is usually wishful thinking. Needing them to beat the Ducks is delusional.

Oregon State 41, Oregon 38 - November 27, 2020

Beavers are 7-4 so they've beat a few anyones.