DOJ Memo on Marijuana Use

[houndawg]

Straight from the CDC
Cause of death (Data from 2010 unless otherwise noted) Number

All Causes 2,468,435
Major Cardiovascular [Heart] Diseases 780,213
Malignant Neoplasms [Cancer] 574,743
Chronic Lower Respiratory Diseases 138,080
Accidents (Unintentional Injuries) [Total] 120,859
Motor Vehicle Accidents [subset of Total Accidents] 35,332
Diabetes 69,071
Drug-Induced Deaths1 40,393
Intentional Self-Harm (Suicide) 38,364
Septicemia 34,812
Chronic Liver Disease and Cirrhosis (*alcoholism) 31,903
Firearm Injuries 31,672
Alcohol-Induced Deaths 25,692
Homicide 16,259
Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) 8,369
Viral hepatitis 7,564
Marijuana 7



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Reading is fundamental. Still didn't provide that link. ONE to ONE basis.

False equivalency, BDMBFCK.

[houndawg]

We're getting old, Hen. While it may not be publicly acceptable, everyone under the age of 40 is smoking pot. It's rapidly becoming socially acceptable, even while illegal for most.

We are, but do you really think more young people are smoking pot today compared to when we were teens? I don't believe that for a second.

BTW, when I went to CO this summer my 15 yo son was upset that there would be people smoking pot everywhere since it was now legal.

At least as many.

[89Hen]

It was obviously a rhetorical question, but I just wonder why you think pot producers won't turn into the same kind of industry.

They will, but we've learned a few things since cigarettes and beer were marketed to pregnant women.

The fact that people can easily grow the shit and produce exceptionally high quality product reduces their dependency on the industry.

The way homebrewing reduces the beer industry?

[89Hen]

It was obviously a rhetorical question, but I just wonder why you think pot producers won't turn into the same kind of industry.

The Devil we know (Capitalism) vs. Drug Smugglers
I'll take capitalism

You don't really believe that making pot illegal will cut out smugglers, do you? That's a very naive stance IMO.

[89Hen]

It was obviously a rhetorical question, but I just wonder why you think pot producers won't turn into the same kind of industry.

Because it is simple to grow reefer compared to making wine or beer.

The money will be in adding value, like edibles.

See above. You're either kidding yourself or plain old ignorant if you think the industry won't grow like a weed (obviously double entendre in tended). There will be designer pot for every occassion.

[89Hen]

We are, but do you really think more young people are smoking pot today compared to when we were teens? I don't believe that for a second.

BTW, when I went to CO this summer my 15 yo son was upset that there would be people smoking pot everywhere since it was now legal.

At least as many.

So you agree with me that it's not more.

[Grizalltheway]

At least as many.

So you agree with me that it's not more.

Do you understand what at least means?

[89Hen]

So you agree with me that it's not more.

Do you understand what at least means?

Yes, it's a weak statement that means you really don't think it's more.

[kalm]

Because it is simple to grow reefer compared to making wine or beer.

The money will be in adding value, like edibles.

See above. You're either kidding yourself or plain old ignorant if you think the industry won't grow like a weed (obviously double entendre in tended). There will be designer pot for every occassion.

Of course it will, and there already is designer pot. Some people like growing there own vegetables too. I have some great heirloom tomatoes in my garden. A few are getting ripe. In the meantime, I'll swing by the store for my BLT's. You're making this WAY harder than it needs to be.

[89Hen]

You're making this WAY harder than it needs to be.

Not following.

[D1B]

They will, but we've learned a few things since cigarettes and beer were marketed to pregnant women.

The fact that people can easily grow the shit and produce exceptionally high quality product reduces their dependency on the industry.

The way homebrewing reduces the beer industry?

Absolutely the case for millions of people who no longer blindly drink industry swill.

[D1B]

You're making this WAY harder than it needs to be.

Not following.

The first accurate thing you've said so far.

[houndawg]

They will, but we've learned a few things since cigarettes and beer were marketed to pregnant women.

The fact that people can easily grow the **** and produce exceptionally high quality product reduces their dependency on the industry.

The way homebrewing reduces the beer industry?

False equivalency, just like BDCKHD.

It's simple to grow reefer and any body with a garden will simply grow a couple of plants too. Does this mean nobody will by weed? Obviously not.

[kalm]

Not following.

The first accurate thing you've said so far.

[89Hen]

The way homebrewing reduces the beer industry?

Absolutely the case for millions of people who no longer blindly drink industry swill.

WTF are you talking about? It's estimated that 1M people brew their own beer at least once per year (American Homebrewers Association). Homebrewing doesn't put a speck of a dust particle of a dent in the beer industry.

[89Hen]

The way homebrewing reduces the beer industry?

False equivalency, just like BDCKHD.

It's simple to grow reefer and any body with a garden will simply grow a couple of plants too. Does this mean nobody will by weed? Obviously not.

Exact equivalency.

[89Hen]

The first accurate thing you've said so far.

Please explain your comment.

[houndawg]

Do you understand what at least means?

Yes, it's a weak statement that means you really don't think it's more.

It means I haven't tried to find out and don't really care. You seem desperate to say something, anything, that shows you are up to speed on the issue. Its just a plant, chill out. If you want to know more ask your kids, they can get you the nuggs.

[houndawg]

Because it is simple to grow reefer compared to making wine or beer.

The money will be in adding value, like edibles.

See above. You're either kidding yourself or plain old ignorant if you think the industry won't grow like a weed (obviously double entendre in tended). There will be designer pot for every occassion.

Duse what is wrong with you that you equate people growing their own with no industry springing up? The industry is already everywhere, it just isn't legal.

[D1B]

Absolutely the case for millions of people who no longer blindly drink industry swill.

WTF are you talking about? It's estimated that 1M people brew their own beer at least once per year (American Homebrewers Association). Homebrewing doesn't put a speck of a dust particle of a dent in the beer industry.

That's a different argument. The original comment was related to dependence on industry.

Keep trying Hen, we're here to help you.

[89Hen]

Yes, it's a weak statement that means you really don't think it's more.

It means I haven't tried to find out and don't really care. You seem desperate to say something, anything, that shows you are up to speed on the issue. Its just a plant, chill out. If you want to know more ask your kids, they can get you the nuggs.

Cop out. All I asked was did you think, not show me proof. I'm not sure you understand the point behind discussion boards.

BTW, opium is just a plant too.

[89Hen]

WTF are you talking about? It's estimated that 1M people brew their own beer at least once per year (American Homebrewers Association). Homebrewing doesn't put a speck of a dust particle of a dent in the beer industry.

That's a different argument. The original comment was related to dependence on industry.

Keep trying Hen, we're here to help you.

My original comment was not related to dependence on the industry... YOU made that comment. My point is that it's comical that many of you believe this will just be happy little pot smokers who now enjoy being able grow and smoke an ounce without the fear of being criminals. I'm not worried about those folks.

[D1B]

See above. You're either kidding yourself or plain old ignorant if you think the industry won't grow like a weed (obviously double entendre in tended). There will be designer pot for every occassion.

Duse what is wrong with you that you equate people growing their own with no industry springing up? The industry is already everywhere, it just isn't legal.

The pot industry also doesn't have to lie or shield customers from severe health consequences of its product. Pot industry does not have to rely on abusers and addicts for most of its profits either. You'll see an industry rise further once legal, but it will be much different.

[houndawg]

The Devil we know (Capitalism) vs. Drug Smugglers
I'll take capitalism

You don't really believe that making pot illegal will cut out smugglers, do you? That's a very naive stance IMO.

Oh Jeeezus.

Let me help you here: Pot is already illegal and yes there are lots of smugglers. You need to spend some time toking with your kids and letting them coach you up.

Thank you for playing, next contestant please.

[89Hen]

Duse what is wrong with you that you equate people growing their own with no industry springing up? The industry is already everywhere, it just isn't legal.

The pot industry also doesn't have to lie or shield customers from severe health consequences of its product. Pot industry does not have to rely on abusers and addicts for most of its profits either. You'll see an industry rise further once legal, but it will be much different.

Bullshit.