UNI is the only team that will be any good this year. Another conference title in the future.houndawg wrote:Some of the old guard was back then only the rotting carcass of a football program.Gil Dobie wrote:
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They should be favored and they'll be loaded going in but they'll do as well as Rennie does; if he finds a deep ball they could go a long way.Gil Dobie wrote:UNI is the only team that will be any good this year. Another conference title in the future.houndawg wrote:
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Rennie's throwing ability is what separates UNI from good to great. If Rennie can just become a serviceable passer this year, and make the defenses at least respect that aspect of the game, UNI could be scary good. If not, we will again simply have a really good RB behind center and UNI will lose 3-5 games again.
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Needs to develop a short passing game, but now that his arm has been exposed everybody is going to try to make him throw deep. If you can run against a stacked box you'll do fine.DJH wrote:Rennie's throwing ability is what separates UNI from good to great. If Rennie can just become a serviceable passer this year, and make the defenses at least respect that aspect of the game, UNI could be scary good. If not, we will again simply have a really good RB behind center and UNI will lose 3-5 games again.
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Doesn't mean they are necessarily the best conference. Are you saying if oregon won the NC last year the pac-10 was the best conference?89Hen wrote:Who won the NC last year?grizzaholic wrote:
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that's how it works around here. App won = SoCon getting best conference love, CAA got the love for their multiple teams winning, EWU = No Big Fluffy talk. When Liberty beats Montana, Big South will be the bid dog.ODUalum11 wrote:Doesn't mean they are necessarily the best conference. Are you saying if oregon won the NC last year the pac-10 was the best conference?89Hen wrote: Who won the NC last year?

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The Patriot League is better than the OVC. All you have to do is look at the two conferences playoff performances during the last 10 years . The PL has done much better against really good competition. Their draw is usually playing the CAA champ on the road. I will give credit to Jax State though, they've been very good. Still, the PL has had Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross and Lafayette step up recently.
Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross and Lafayette are better year in and year out than Jax State, SEMO, EIU, Murray State, EKU etc. If Lehigh truly has its act together the whole league will benefit imo. The Hawks seem to get solid respect within the FCS community. .
I'd go out on a limb and say the PL is comparable to the MVFC right now. The bottom of the PL is much worse but the top 3-4 teams are pretty comparable. The CAA, SoCon and perhaps the Big Sky are at a different level.
Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross and Lafayette are better year in and year out than Jax State, SEMO, EIU, Murray State, EKU etc. If Lehigh truly has its act together the whole league will benefit imo. The Hawks seem to get solid respect within the FCS community. .
I'd go out on a limb and say the PL is comparable to the MVFC right now. The bottom of the PL is much worse but the top 3-4 teams are pretty comparable. The CAA, SoCon and perhaps the Big Sky are at a different level.
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Fair conclusion for last season, with the caveat that the MVC as a conference won't be that weak again for several more years.Go Lehigh TU Owl wrote:The Patriot League is better than the OVC. All you have to do is look at the two conferences playoff performances during the last 10 years . The PL has done much better against really good competition. Their draw is usually play the CAA champ on the road. I will give credit to Jax State though, they've been very good. Still, the PL has had Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross and Lafayette step up recently.
Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross and Lafayette are better year in and year out than Jax State, SEMO, EIU, Murray State, EKU etc. If Lehigh truly has its act together the whole league will benefit imo. The Hawks seem to get solid respect within the FCS community. .
I'd go out on a limb and say the PL is comparable to the MVFC right now. The bottom of the PL is much worse but the top 3-4 teams are pretty comparable. The CAA, SoCon and perhaps the Big Sky are at a different level.
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The Sky was better than the SoCon last year.Go Lehigh TU Owl wrote:The Patriot League is better than the OVC. All you have to do is look at the two conferences playoff performances during the last 10 years . The PL has done much better against really good competition. Their draw is usually play the CAA champ on the road. I will give credit to Jax State though, they've been very good. Still, the PL has had Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross and Lafayette step up recently.
Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross and Lafayette are better year in and year out than Jax State, SEMO, EIU, Murray State, EKU etc. If Lehigh truly has its act together the whole league will benefit imo. The Hawks seem to get solid respect within the FCS community. .
I'd go out on a limb and say the PL is comparable to the MVFC right now. The bottom of the PL is much worse but the top 3-4 teams are pretty comparable. The CAA, SoCon and perhaps the Big Sky are at a different level.
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They certainly had the best team, in terms of depth it's debatable imo.Grizalltheway wrote:The Sky was better than the SoCon last year.Go Lehigh TU Owl wrote:The Patriot League is better than the OVC. All you have to do is look at the two conferences playoff performances during the last 10 years . The PL has done much better against really good competition. Their draw is usually play the CAA champ on the road. I will give credit to Jax State though, they've been very good. Still, the PL has had Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross and Lafayette step up recently.
Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross and Lafayette are better year in and year out than Jax State, SEMO, EIU, Murray State, EKU etc. If Lehigh truly has its act together the whole league will benefit imo. The Hawks seem to get solid respect within the FCS community. .
I'd go out on a limb and say the PL is comparable to the MVFC right now. The bottom of the PL is much worse but the top 3-4 teams are pretty comparable. The CAA, SoCon and perhaps the Big Sky are at a different level.
I was basing my assessment on a 5-10 year period.
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First, you stated "right now". Second, the BSC and CAA have had BOTH NC participants 3 years running. It's plainly obvious who the two best conferences are. Once App State's quality declined, the SoCon hasn't sniffed the NC game....nwo what was that about "depth"?Go Lehigh TU Owl wrote:They certainly had the best team, in terms of depth it's debatable imo.Grizalltheway wrote:
The Sky was better than the SoCon last year.
I was basing my assessment on a 5-10 year period.
edited to correct SoCon (originally had CAA)...
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Having teams play in the NC definitely helps a conference's case but like you said I'm all about looking at a conference's depth when determining which is a better conference.AZGrizFan wrote:First, you stated "right now". Second, the BSC and CAA have had BOTH NC participants 3 years running. It's plainly obvious who the two best conferences are. Once App State's quality declined, the CAA hasn't sniffed the NC game....nwo what was that about "depth"?Go Lehigh TU Owl wrote:
They certainly had the best team, in terms of depth it's debatable imo.
I was basing my assessment on a 5-10 year period.
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EWU > GSUODUalum11 wrote:Having teams play in the NC definitely helps a conference's case but like you said I'm all about looking at a conference's depth when determining which is a better conference.AZGrizFan wrote:
First, you stated "right now". Second, the BSC and CAA have had BOTH NC participants 3 years running. It's plainly obvious who the two best conferences are. Once App State's quality declined, the CAA hasn't sniffed the NC game....nwo what was that about "depth"?
Montana > ASU
MSU > Wofford
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The "right now" reference was in regards to the PL and MVFC comparison.AZGrizFan wrote:First, you stated "right now". Second, the BSC and CAA have had BOTH NC participants 3 years running. It's plainly obvious who the two best conferences are. Once App State's quality declined, the CAA hasn't sniffed the NC game....nwo what was that about "depth"?Go Lehigh TU Owl wrote:
They certainly had the best team, in terms of depth it's debatable imo.
I was basing my assessment on a 5-10 year period.
The SoCon is still elite imo. App State, Wofford and GSU are all top shelf. In fact, GSU might be the favorites heading into the season.
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Yeah, I'd probably agree that the Big Sky was better than the SoCon this past season.AZGrizFan wrote:EWU > GSUODUalum11 wrote:
Having teams play in the NC definitely helps a conference's case but like you said I'm all about looking at a conference's depth when determining which is a better conference.
Montana > ASU
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I'm not arguing SoCon isn't top 3. But the comment above implied it was questionable the BSC was on the same level...3 NC appearances in 3 years clearly makes that an assinine point.Go Lehigh TU Owl wrote:The "right now" reference was in regards to the PL and MVFC comparision.AZGrizFan wrote:
First, you stated "right now". Second, the BSC and CAA have had BOTH NC participants 3 years running. It's plainly obvious who the two best conferences are. Once App State's quality declined, the CAA hasn't sniffed the NC game....nwo what was that about "depth"?
The SoCon is still elite imo. App State, Wofford and GSU are all top shelf. In fact, GSU might be the favorites heading into the season.
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Superhornet,you are a moron of epic levels. I'll leave your comments at that
As for the MVFC, it was beyond bad last season. Most years a 7-4 record gets you a fourth place finish. Fact is NDSU was an average,at bet, team last season and got some very favorable playoff draws.
As for the MVFC, it was beyond bad last season. Most years a 7-4 record gets you a fourth place finish. Fact is NDSU was an average,at bet, team last season and got some very favorable playoff draws.
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Silenoz wrote:Who cares, conference wars are retarded. If NDSU had not fumbled on the one-inch line/in the endzone, we'd probably be hearing about how overrated the Big Fluffy is yet again. So you're basically judging nine teams on one play.
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My previous post notwithstanding...this.Silenoz wrote:Silenoz wrote:Who cares, conference wars are retarded. If NDSU had not fumbled on the one-inch line/in the endzone, we'd probably be hearing about how overrated the Big Fluffy is yet again. So you're basically judging nine teams on one play.
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Says who? That would've only sent it to double OT.Silenoz wrote:Silenoz wrote:Who cares, conference wars are retarded. If NDSU had not fumbled on the one-inch line/in the endzone, we'd probably be hearing about how overrated the Big Fluffy is yet again. So you're basically judging nine teams on one play.
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No way NDSU loses that game in 2OT. NDSU O,LINE,DESTROYED TWO.....count em, TWO big fluffy d lines.
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lakesbison wrote:No way NDSU loses that game in 2OT. NDSU O,LINE,DESTROYED TWO.....count em, TWO big fluffy d lines.
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Yeah, you're right. There's no way we would've scored another TD on the first play of the 2nd OT.
We would've scored on the second play.
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The point was these arguments are always hanging on by a threadScreamin_Eagle174 wrote:Says who? That would've only sent it to double OT.Silenoz wrote:![]()
Also If you say App State would of beaten us if they had taken us to overtime, you wouldn't see me getting my panties in a twist about it
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Don't care if App State would've beat you in OT or not, it just would've made for a more entertaining game than it already was. There's a big difference between could've and probably though.Silenoz wrote:The point was these arguments are always hanging on by a threadScreamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Says who? That would've only sent it to double OT.![]()
Also If you say App State would of beaten us if they had taken us to overtime, you wouldn't see me getting my panties in a twist about it

