Zimmerman Trial

[blueballs]

by the way the young lady you guys are berating speaks more languages than you do (English, Spanish, Creole)

Unfortunately that doesn't matter in this situation... all that matters is how the jury perceives her. IMO she came off as less than credible and combative. Also, she didn't really do anything to lend proof to the murder 2 charge.

Living in Central FL I come in contact with many people who are bi-lingual or tri-lingual that I KNOW I am smarter than and I KNOW I am more successful than. Being able to speak more than one language is nice but it is in no way a sign of intelligence or even class.

[ASUMountaineer]

by the way the young lady you guys are berating speaks more languages than you do (English, Spanish, Creole)

The only one who saw this. But they(Repukes) call her ghetto and uneducated. WOW!

dated, stupid, and not funny. You really do need to come up with something new, or at least less copied. Be original, for once.

How about "Reptards," "Republicants," or "Righty Tightys?"

[grizzaholic]

by the way the young lady you guys are berating speaks more languages than you do (English, Spanish, Creole)

So speaking more languages is much more important than knowing how to read.

[blueballs]

This is clumsy, Cucked. A better fit might be: "Weak-ass hit, you must acquit". Feel free to copyright.

For Zimmy: "My MMA did not pay"

Zimmy needs a fucking refund from his MMA school

I can't remember if this was introduced as testimony in the trial but didn't I read or hear somehwere that Zimmerman's MMA training was more about losing weight than actual combat training, and that the instructor stated that he was pretty unathletic and soft?

To draw a parallel, I took golf as a class in college and took golf lessons from a pro later but I suck out loud in golf, even though I could crush a softball, played at the highest level of the sport, won multiple national honors, and anybody who has known me for a while will tell you I am very athletic.

If anything, it would appear that his ineptitude- even if he attended classes- in fighting might lend credibility to his self defense claim in the shooting.

Regardless, this is a situation that never should have occured and the loss of life is tragic. What is almost as tragic is the way the media and many politicians- including the president- reacted to the situation by spreading propaganda, outright lies, and engaging in character assassination (including releasing his SSN) against Zimmerman.

[mrklean]

Zimmy needs a **** refund from his MMA school

I can't remember if this was introduced as testimony in the trial but didn't I read or hear somehwere that Zimmerman's MMA training was more about losing weight than actual combat training, and that the instructor stated that he was pretty unathletic and soft?

To draw a parallel, I took golf as a class in college and took golf lessons from a pro later but I suck out loud in golf, even though I could crush a softball, played at the highest level of the sport, won multiple national honors, and anybody who has known me for a while will tell you I am very athletic.

If anything, it would appear that his ineptitude- even if he attended classes- in fighting might lend credibility to his self defense claim in the shooting.

Regardless, this is a situation that never should have occured and the loss of life is tragic. What is almost as tragic is the way the media and many politicians- including the president- reacted to the situation by spreading propaganda, outright lies, and engaging in character assassination (including releasing his SSN) against Zimmerman.

After three years he should have learned the basics of Judo and Ju Jitsu. Thay means he should know how to take a person down who is 25lbs. lighter and mount them. But, you can't turn a cat into a Tiger.

[grizzaholic]

This is the worst episode of CourtTV I have ever seen.

[houndawg]

Zimmy needs a **** refund from his MMA school

I can't remember if this was introduced as testimony in the trial but didn't I read or hear somehwere that Zimmerman's MMA training was more about losing weight than actual combat training, and that the instructor stated that he was pretty unathletic and soft?

To draw a parallel, I took golf as a class in college and took golf lessons from a pro later but I suck out loud in golf, even though I could crush a softball, played at the highest level of the sport, won multiple national honors, and anybody who has known me for a while will tell you I am very athletic.

If anything, it would appear that his ineptitude- even if he attended classes- in fighting might lend credibility to his self defense claim in the shooting.

Regardless, this is a situation that never should have occured and the loss of life is tragic. What is almost as tragic is the way the media and many politicians- including the president- reacted to the situation by spreading propaganda, outright lies, and engaging in character assassination (including releasing his SSN) against Zimmerman.

Maybe. It might also be why he put on 100 lbs. and started looking like the Pillsbury doughboy before the trial.

[houndawg]

Even though this will likely fall on deaf ears (I'm definitely not going to go ~full argument~ in this thread because it would be a pointless action)

The medical examiner today testified that Trayvon was shot at intermediate range, not close range.

There were no injuries to his right hand, but there were two abrasions on his left hand. He was right handed.

That might be huge depending on the definition of "intermediate range".

[Ibanez]

by the way the young lady you guys are berating speaks more languages than you do (English, Spanish, Creole)

The only one who saw this. But they(Repukes) call her ghetto and uneducated. WOW!

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't make them a Republican. I'm not a republican and I can tell that Precious was as ghetto as they come.

[ASUMountaineer]

Zimmy needs a **** refund from his MMA school

I can't remember if this was introduced as testimony in the trial but didn't I read or hear somehwere that Zimmerman's MMA training was more about losing weight than actual combat training, and that the instructor stated that he was pretty unathletic and soft?

To draw a parallel, I took golf as a class in college and took golf lessons from a pro later but I suck out loud in golf, even though I could crush a softball, played at the highest level of the sport, won multiple national honors, and anybody who has known me for a while will tell you I am very athletic.

If anything, it would appear that his ineptitude- even if he attended classes- in fighting might lend credibility to his self defense claim in the shooting.

Regardless, this is a situation that never should have occured and the loss of life is tragic. What is almost as tragic is the way the media and many politicians- including the president- reacted to the situation by spreading propaganda, outright lies, and engaging in character assassination (including releasing his SSN) against Zimmerman.

Oh well, as kleany says, "Karma is a bitch." Z-man shouldn't have been born white, apparently.

[93henfan]

by the way the young lady you guys are berating speaks more languages than you do (English, Spanish, Creole)

She's being berated (by me at least) because she has no sense of courtroom decorum, was disrespectful to the defense attorney, can't understand that "cracker" is a racist term, among dozens of other things I don't care to list.

If she is the future of America then we are truly fucked. I don't care how many languages were spoken in all the baby momma homes she was raised in. I just wish she'd have laid off the cheesy poofs and learned some manners.

[mrklean]

I can't remember if this was introduced as testimony in the trial but didn't I read or hear somehwere that Zimmerman's MMA training was more about losing weight than actual combat training, and that the instructor stated that he was pretty unathletic and soft?

To draw a parallel, I took golf as a class in college and took golf lessons from a pro later but I suck out loud in golf, even though I could crush a softball, played at the highest level of the sport, won multiple national honors, and anybody who has known me for a while will tell you I am very athletic.

If anything, it would appear that his ineptitude- even if he attended classes- in fighting might lend credibility to his self defense claim in the shooting.

Regardless, this is a situation that never should have occured and the loss of life is tragic. What is almost as tragic is the way the media and many politicians- including the president- reacted to the situation by spreading propaganda, outright lies, and engaging in character assassination (including releasing his SSN) against Zimmerman.

Oh well, as kleany says, "Karma is a bitch." Z-man shouldn't have been born white, apparently.

There are plenty of white guys at my Dojo who can fight. Zimmy is a pure 100% punk. Thats why hes not in Law Enforcement. I'm glad hes not a cop.

[mrklean]

by the way the young lady you guys are berating speaks more languages than you do (English, Spanish, Creole)

She's being berated (by me at least) because she has no sense of courtroom decorum, was disrespectful to the defense attorney, can't understand that "cracker" is a racist term, among dozens of other things I don't care to list.

If she is the future of America then we are truly ****.

Cracker is not a racist term. The word Cracker is an old slave term for a mean overseer. "Mr. Charlie cracks the whip hard." A cracker can be black or white. Male or Female. Ever heard of the Atlanta Black Crackers, Negro Baseball Team.

[93henfan]

She's being berated (by me at least) because she has no sense of courtroom decorum, was disrespectful to the defense attorney, can't understand that "cracker" is a racist term, among dozens of other things I don't care to list.

If she is the future of America then we are truly ****.

Cracker is not a racist term. The word Cracker is an old slave term for a mean overseer. "Mr. Charlie cracks the whip hard." A cracker can be black or white. Male or Female. Ever heard of the Atlanta Black Crackers, Negro Baseball Team.

Ok. Guess n*****'s not racist then either. Deal? Can Paula Deen have her future back?

[93henfan]

And in a stunning development, Trayvon Martin's mom testifies that the scream for help came from,


Wait for it....



Trayvon!


Dun duh DAAAAAAH!!!! This changes everything.

[youngterrier]

by the way the young lady you guys are berating speaks more languages than you do (English, Spanish, Creole)

Unfortunately that doesn't matter in this situation... all that matters is how the jury perceives her. IMO she came off as less than credible and combative. Also, she didn't really do anything to lend proof to the murder 2 charge.

Living in Central FL I come in contact with many people who are bi-lingual or tri-lingual that I KNOW I am smarter than and I KNOW I am more successful than. Being able to speak more than one language is nice but it is in no way a sign of intelligence or even class.

But it also can be indicative of cultural difference and thus the inability to read as well. Who gives a shit about class or success in this case? She's not immensely unintelligent as people are indicating for some reason, that was my point. Just because she talks differently and reacts differently when interacting with people doesn't mean she's stupid.

[youngterrier]

The only one who saw this. But they(Repukes) call her ghetto and uneducated. WOW!

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't make them a Republican. I'm not a republican and I can tell that Precious was as ghetto as they come.

And that takes away from her testimony how?

(I sense some racial overtones, just sayin )

[ASUMountaineer]

Oh well, as kleany says, "Karma is a bitch." Z-man shouldn't have been born white, apparently.

There are plenty of white guys at my Dojo who can fight. Zimmy is a pure 100% punk. Thats why hes not in Law Enforcement. I'm glad hes not a cop.

No disagreement there. The media's faux outrage, and the politicians looking for a minor political victory is what I find disturbing. But, it's par for the course now so while disturbing, it's not surprising.

[ASUMountaineer]

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't make them a Republican. I'm not a republican and I can tell that Precious was as ghetto as they come.

And that takes away from her testimony how?

(I sense some racial overtones, just sayin )

I sensed that too when she said "cracker" isn't a racist term.

[ASUMountaineer]

She's being berated (by me at least) because she has no sense of courtroom decorum, was disrespectful to the defense attorney, can't understand that "cracker" is a racist term, among dozens of other things I don't care to list.

If she is the future of America then we are truly ****.

Cracker is not a racist term. The word Cracker is an old slave term for a mean overseer. "Mr. Charlie cracks the whip hard." A cracker can be black or white. Male or Female. Ever heard of the Atlanta Black Crackers, Negro Baseball Team.

This is true, only white people can be racist. Just ask kleany.

[Ibanez]

She's being berated (by me at least) because she has no sense of courtroom decorum, was disrespectful to the defense attorney, can't understand that "cracker" is a racist term, among dozens of other things I don't care to list.

If she is the future of America then we are truly ****.

Cracker is not a racist term. The word Cracker is an old slave term for a mean overseer. "Mr. Charlie cracks the whip hard." A cracker can be black or white. Male or Female. Ever heard of the Atlanta Black Crackers, Negro Baseball Team.

Cracker is racist. You aren't using it as a term of endearment. You are using it to ridicule a certain person. A cracker, in today's society, is a derogatory term for a white person. Essentially, you are calling a white person a slave owner. It's offensive.

[Ibanez]

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't make them a Republican. I'm not a republican and I can tell that Precious was as ghetto as they come.

And that takes away from her testimony how?

(I sense some racial overtones, just sayin )

I didn't say that.

[youngterrier]

by the way the young lady you guys are berating speaks more languages than you do (English, Spanish, Creole)

She's being berated (by me at least) because she has no sense of courtroom decorum, was disrespectful to the defense attorney, can't understand that "cracker" is a racist term, among dozens of other things I don't care to list.

If she is the future of America then we are truly fucked. I don't care how many languages were spoken in all the baby momma homes she was raised in. I just wish she'd have laid off the cheesy poofs and learned some manners.

I'm white. Cracker isn't a racist term. It may hurt "white feel feels" but it has nowhere near the historical and social implications of the n word. If you don't believe me, referring to said word as "the n word" makes people know what word I'm talking about almost universally. When you say the C word, not so much.

When blacks call people crackers it's different than when whites call blacks the n word, because blacks are suspicious of whites because white culture/society has done all it can to marginalize them at any given chance to this day. So, in that sense its justified. Now, when white people call blacks the n word, it's done with a little more social power and the social acceptance of it contributes to the mindset of a society that has blacks stopped and frisked in New York something like 10 times more likely than their white counterparts, gives whites with with a felony offense a higher probability of getting called back for a job than their black counterparts, and has blacks being more probable to be arrested for drug offenses than their white counterparts who are more likely to use drugs....and other such instances of racial discrimination.

TL;DR the n word is offense because whites have social and economic power, blacks don't, so when they use the term cracker it isn't racist. It's like a 3 year old picking a fight with a pro MMA fighter. the pro MMA fighter picking a fight with the child would be seen as bullying/oppressive/what have you but if the child does it, it's literally nothing in the grand scheme of things.

cracker isn't offensive, get over it.

[youngterrier]

And that takes away from her testimony how?

(I sense some racial overtones, just sayin )

I didn't say that.

but you strongly implied it or else you wouldn't have brought it up...

[Ibanez]

Cracker is not a racist term. The word Cracker is an old slave term for a mean overseer. "Mr. Charlie cracks the whip hard." A cracker can be black or white. Male or Female. Ever heard of the Atlanta Black Crackers, Negro Baseball Team.

Ok. Guess nigger's not racist then either. Deal? Can Paula Deen have her future back?

If a black man says it, it's ok.

If a white man says it, it's racist.