Breaking: "Older, White Male shoots up theatre in Lousiana

[Grizalltheway]

Poor Baldlie. The truth hurts.

Read. Learn.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opini ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[travelinman67]

Lafayette is one of my favorite cities...Home of the Ragin Cajuns. Best PoBoys in the South.
Was a little extra pissed that this happened in Lafayette...then heard the shooter's from Alabama.

Of course.

[JohnStOnge]

Read. Learn.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opini ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've seen that assessment. What gets me is that "since 9/11" thing. Why say "since 9/11?" So you're going to compare numbers and leave 9/11 out? that's ridiculous. If you want to compare the number of deaths due to "right wing terror" and those due to "Islamic terror" compare the numbers. Don't friggin' set the boundaries in order to exclude an event that led to almost 3,000 fatalities. Go ahead and include the Oklahoma City bombing fatalities too and call it a "right wing" terrorism thing. But if you include everything Islamist terrorism is going to be WAY ahead. You take the number of Americans killed by Islamists and compare it to the number killed by what they're calling "right wing" terrorists and it's not remotely close.

The idea that "right wing" and/or "anti government" terrorism is a bigger threat than Islamist terrorism right now is ridiculous.

[CID1990]

Why is everybody surprised that it's NEWS when a white male goes on a shooting spree?

[Chizzang]

Why is everybody surprised that it's NEWS when a white male goes on a shooting spree?

Yeah...
There have been something like 65 mass shootings in the US in recent history
Why is this even news..?

It happens every month

[Grizalltheway]

Read. Learn.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opini ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The idea that "right wing" and/or "anti government" terrorism is a bigger threat than Islamist terrorism right now is ridiculous.

I love how you're all about numbers and statistics until they don't support your views. It's hilarious. It really, really is.

[Ibanez]

Lafayette is one of my favorite cities...Home of the Ragin Cajuns. Best PoBoys in the South.
Was a little extra pissed that this happened in Lafayette...then heard the shooter's from Alabama.

Of course.

Best PoBoys? Now that may warrant a trip.

[Skjellyfetti]

Still not as silly as the idea of stopping these incidents with background checks, waiting periods, and "assault weapons" bans.

Stopping? Eliminate? No.

But, reduce? Sure.

Do you really think that's ridiculous?

Do you think we should get rid of background checks and waiting periods?

[Baldy]

Read. Learn.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opini ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Opinion. Radical left-wing opinion.

[dbackjon]

Lafayette is one of my favorite cities...Home of the Ragin Cajuns. Best PoBoys in the South.
Was a little extra pissed that this happened in Lafayette...then heard the shooter's from Alabama.

Of course.

Alabama denied him a pistol license. Louisiana sold him guns.

[Skjellyfetti]

“Do not mistake yourselves for one minute, the enemy sees all posted on this website. I do not want to discourage the last hope for the best, but you must realize the power of the lone wolf, is the power that come forth in ALL situations.” Houser wrote on a forum dedicated to the New York chapter of Golden Dawn, Greece’s far-right neo-Nazi political party. “Look within yourselves.”

That comment was one of dozens of messages that Houser, 59, left on several Internet message boards, all of which provide a picture of a politically disaffected, angry man who viewed the United States as a “financially failing filth farm,” expressed interest in white power groups, anti-Semitic ideas, the anti-gay Westboro Baptist Church, as well as a number of conspiracy theories often espoused by the antigovernment right.

But his extremism appears to have gone deeper. In 2005, he registered to attend David Duke’s EURO Conference in New Orleans, according to a spreadsheet of conference registrations obtained by Hatewatch. He lauded Duke, one of the most recognizable figures of the American radical right, a neo-Nazi, longtime Ku Klux Klan leader and now an international spokesman for Holocaust denial. On a PoliticalForum.com, Houser wrote in 2013, “David Duke has been unseen or hear of in years, but at one time appeared exactly what US needed.”

Elsewhere online, Houser described his interests as “hustling” and said that his political involvement was minimal, though he belonged to a forum associated with Tea Party Nation. He sang the praise of Adolf Hitler many times, saying “Hitler is loved for the results of his pragmatism,” last January on the website stateofmind13.com.

Aside from his affinity for Hitler and Golden Dawn, he expressed racists extremism elsewhere. He promoted the disproven racist theory that a connection exists between race and IQ, and even promoted The Bell Curve, a book written by racist Charles Murray.

https://medium.com/hatewatch-blog/lafay ... a16afc9643" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Grizalltheway]

Read. Learn.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opini ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Opinion. Radical left-wing opinion.

Refute the numbers and surveys, or piss off.

[ASUG8]

Still not as silly as the idea of stopping these incidents with background checks, waiting periods, and "assault weapons" bans.

Stopping? Eliminate? No.

But, reduce? Sure.

Do you really think that's ridiculous?

Do you think we should get rid of background checks and waiting periods?

If I'm law abiding, am deemed to be mentally fit, and can pass a criminal background check I should have the ability to purchase a gun. The thing is, very little of that happens when guns are stolen and traded on the black market. The purchase process between the two Carolinas differs greatly as well just as it seems it does in Alabama and Louisiana. Should we have a Federally mandated gun purchase process? Maybe, but I would have concerns that they would begin tracking what each individual has in his/her possession when it's really none of their business. Make sure I'm legal, not crazy, and over 18 and that's where government's involvement should end.

[travelinman67]

Lafayette is one of my favorite cities...Home of the Ragin Cajuns. Best PoBoys in the South.
Was a little extra pissed that this happened in Lafayette...then heard the shooter's from Alabama.

Of course.

Best PoBoys? Now that may warrant a trip.

Was in town on vacation for a ULL game, stopped by a corner market, picked up a fried crawfish PoBoy and headed over to the campus.
Found a bench on the south side of campus alongside a bayou/pond. As I sat eating lunch, I noticed a small sign on the bank, "Please don't feed the gator." A few feet offshore, I saw the eyes of a large alligator submerged just below the surface. Looked to be about 8-10' long.

No fence or barricades.

Great sandwich...sunny, hot, Louisiana day...just remember thinking how much I loved Louisiana...

...but I'd never take a nap on that bench.

[houndawg]

Why is everybody surprised that it's NEWS when a white male goes on a shooting spree?

Damned if I know. Just another disturbed lone wolf white man as near as I can tell. Its not like he's a muslin.

[Skjellyfetti]

well, tman and i can agree on something - lafayette is an awesome place.

been to the blackpot festival a few times.

http://blackpotfestival.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[houndawg]

well, tman and i can agree on something - lafayette is an awesome place.

been to the blackpot festival a few times.

http://blackpotfestival.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Saw Steve Riley and the Mamou Playboys at Tipitina's for $3. Nobody parties like cajuns

[Baldy]

Opinion. Radical left-wing opinion.

Refute the numbers and surveys, or piss off.

Duhhh OK...

The "study" used in your opinion piece:

Other data sets, using different definitions of political violence, tell comparable stories. The Global Terrorism Database maintained by the Start Center at the University of Maryland includes 65 attacks in the United States associated with right-wing ideologies and 24 by Muslim extremists since 9/11. The International Security Program at the New America Foundation identifies 39 fatalities from “non-jihadist” homegrown extremists and 26 fatalities from “jihadist” extremists.

Muslins make up less than 1% of the population. Right-Wingers..."conservatives" make up approximately 40% of the population.
39 fatalities from those "right-wing terrorists" compared to 26 by Muslins.
If you want to compare apples to apples, do the math. Right-wingers are responsible for less than twice the numbers of deaths from terrorism as Muslins despite being approximately 40 times larger in population.

Anything else?

[Pwns]

Still not as silly as the idea of stopping these incidents with background checks, waiting periods, and "assault weapons" bans.

Stopping? Eliminate? No.

But, reduce? Sure.

Do you really think that's ridiculous?

Do you think we should get rid of background checks and waiting periods?

I don't know if I can think of a single mass shooting that would've been stopped by these laws . Hardly any of the mass shooters I can think of from Columbine forward had any criminal history (the Columbine shooters had other people buy the guns for them).

The waiting periods might be even more useless because mass shootings are not impulsive acts. They are often planned many months in advance. They always have long manifestos and diaries and such and they put a lot of planning into them. It's not just some spontaneous psychotic break that happens at any random time.

Maybe there are some gun crimes that these laws will stop, but they will not stop one person plotting to kill as many strangers as they can.

[Skjellyfetti]

Damn. Speaking of South Louisiana music...

Ukulele player in this band was killed.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PgKmribQE[/youtube]

[Chizzang]

Stopping? Eliminate? No.

But, reduce? Sure.

Do you really think that's ridiculous?

Do you think we should get rid of background checks and waiting periods?

I don't know if I can think of a single mass shooting that would've been stopped by these laws . Hardly any of the mass shooters I can think of from Columbine forward had any criminal history (the Columbine shooters had other people buy the guns for them).

The waiting periods might be even more useless because mass shootings are not impulsive acts. They are often planned many months in advance. They always have long manifestos and diaries and such and they put a lot of planning into them. It's not just some spontaneous psychotic break that happens at any random time.

Maybe there are some gun crimes that these laws will stop, but they will not stop one person plotting to kill as many strangers as they can.

I completely agree... ^
We have a cultural issue not a gun law issue
Maybe you could argue 100 years ago (200 years ago) I don't know

But today we have an American Problem

[Grizalltheway]

Refute the numbers and surveys, or piss off.

Duhhh OK...

The "study" used in your opinion piece:

Other data sets, using different definitions of political violence, tell comparable stories. The Global Terrorism Database maintained by the Start Center at the University of Maryland includes 65 attacks in the United States associated with right-wing ideologies and 24 by Muslim extremists since 9/11. The International Security Program at the New America Foundation identifies 39 fatalities from “non-jihadist” homegrown extremists and 26 fatalities from “jihadist” extremists.

Muslins make up less than 1% of the population. Right-Wingers..."conservatives" make up approximately 40% of the population.
39 fatalities from those "right-wing terrorists" compared to 26 by Muslins.
If you want to compare apples to apples, do the math. Right-wingers are responsible for less than twice the numbers of deaths from terrorism as Muslins despite being approximately 40 times larger in population.

Anything else?

Yeah. What does that have to do with how big of a threat they are in aggregate?

[AZGrizFan]

Stopping? Eliminate? No.

But, reduce? Sure.

Do you really think that's ridiculous?

Do you think we should get rid of background checks and waiting periods?

If I'm law abiding, am deemed to be mentally fit, and can pass a criminal background check I should have the ability to purchase a gun. The thing is, very little of that happens when guns are stolen and traded on the black market. The purchase process between the two Carolinas differs greatly as well just as it seems it does in Alabama and Louisiana. Should we have a Federally mandated gun purchase process? Maybe, but I would have concerns that they would begin tracking what each individual has in his/her possession when it's really none of their business. Make sure I'm legal, not crazy, and over 18 and that's where government's involvement should end.

SHOULD. Such a simple little word.

[ASUG8]

If I'm law abiding, am deemed to be mentally fit, and can pass a criminal background check I should have the ability to purchase a gun. The thing is, very little of that happens when guns are stolen and traded on the black market. The purchase process between the two Carolinas differs greatly as well just as it seems it does in Alabama and Louisiana. Should we have a Federally mandated gun purchase process? Maybe, but I would have concerns that they would begin tracking what each individual has in his/her possession when it's really none of their business. Make sure I'm legal, not crazy, and over 18 and that's where government's involvement should end.

SHOULD. Such a simple little word.

What are Texas laws like? Filling out paperwork and doing the background check in SC (either on the phone or online) and I'm out the door with a new firearm in under 10 minutes.

[AZGrizFan]

SHOULD. Such a simple little word.

What are Texas laws like? Filling out paperwork and doing the background check in SC (either on the phone or online) and I'm out the door with a new firearm in under 10 minutes.

No idea. I have resolved to never again buy a firearm at a gun shop--so, no more background checks for me.... The government already knows a couple of weapons I have....they don't need to know what ELSE I've got.