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Re: The (real) reasons why Frisco was chosen

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GrizFan5 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:[But Chatty's stadium actually is in a pretty crappy area. Frisco sounds alot nicer. I'm sure there's just as much hotels, restaurants, bars within walking distance (1-2 miles). There's a lot more hotel availability. You're just pissed off because you don't have a 1/2 day drive or whatever it is for you to Chatty anymore if ASU makes it again.
This statement is not accurate. According to the website for Pizza Hut Park, there is one hotel with a mile of the stadium (Comfort Suites. .79 miles) and 11 other hotels ranging from 4.5 to 13 miles away. The hotels appear to be located at intersections of freeways and major highways.

Under Local Amenities, the site lists one mall and 4 restauarants, including Del's Frozen Lemonade. It sounds like the mall is fairly nice.

http://www.pizzahutpark.com/Home/GuestS ... fault.aspx
Not true according to hotel.com:
1 hotel, Comfort Inn Suites, 400 yards from Frisco Park. And I just plugged in 1/6/11-1/9/11, and its sold out already.
11 hotels within 5 miles.
44 hotels within 10 miles.

Pizza Hut Park says a doz hotels within 13 miles? Hotels.com lists 92.

Sounds like hotels ain't gonna be a problem.

http://www.hotels.com/search.do?pointNa ... .0&rooms=1
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Nope, I've no idea how many will show up. I just assume fans will and it remains to be seen how many will actually go through with it. The only assumption I am making is that SLC fans will go even if they're team isn't in it. As to the numbers, it's anyone's guess.

Change can be healthy and this could be a big boom for the FCS or, a total bust. We're arguing a year away. I'll just sit back and watch it unfold.

The decision has been made. We're going to live with it, good or bad, for three years. I can handle it.
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Re: The (real) reasons why Frisco was chosen

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BDKJMU wrote:
GrizFan5 wrote:
This statement is not accurate. According to the website for Pizza Hut Park, there is one hotel with a mile of the stadium (Comfort Suites. .79 miles) and 11 other hotels ranging from 4.5 to 13 miles away. The hotels appear to be located at intersections of freeways and major highways.

Under Local Amenities, the site lists one mall and 4 restauarants, including Del's Frozen Lemonade. It sounds like the mall is fairly nice.

http://www.pizzahutpark.com/Home/GuestS ... fault.aspx
Not true according to hotel.com:
1 hotel, Comfort Inn Suites, 400 yards from Frisco Park. And I just plugged in 1/6/11-1/9/11, and its sold out already.
11 hotels within 5 miles.
44 hotels within 10 miles.

Pizza Hut Park says a doz hotels within 13 miles? Hotels.com lists 92.

Sounds like hotels ain't gonna be a problem.

http://www.hotels.com/search.do?pointNa ... .0&rooms=1
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CatMom wrote: The only assumption I am making is that SLC fans will go even if they're team isn't in it.
And why are you making that assumption? Some SoCon fans went to the game in Chatty without their team in it... very few... not enough to make a dent in the attendence (butts in the seats, not tickets sold). Why would the SLC be different? Do they have larger fanbases than the SoCon? Do they have better attendance than the SoCon? Is there something else i'm missing?
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BDKJMU wrote:And I bet I know where people would meet up the night before:
http://www.thirdbase-sportsbar.com/
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BDKJMU wrote:[
Not true according to hotel.com:
1 hotel, Comfort Inn Suites, 400 yards from Frisco Park. And I just plugged in 1/6/11-1/9/11, and its sold out already.
11 hotels within 5 miles.
44 hotels within 10 miles.

Pizza Hut Park says a doz hotels within 13 miles? Hotels.com lists 92.

Sounds like hotels ain't gonna be a problem.

http://www.hotels.com/search.do?pointNa ... .0&rooms=1
Hotels.com is notariously inaccurate, in terms of describing the distance of hotels from various things. The Pizza Hit Park website would likely be much more accurate. Again, on the closest hotel according to the Pizza Hut Park webiste: "Comfort Suites
9700 Dallas Parkway
Frisco, TX 75034
Call 972-668-9700
Distance: .79 Miles"

The stadium is located on 140 acres. The address is presumably for the park, not the stadium. Thus, the hotel.com distances are likely skewed a bit. Even on hotels.com, the next closest hotel is 3.5 miles away.

Maybe you are okay with staying 14 miles from the venue, but I'm not.

Anyway, the gripe isn't just with the distance; it's with the lack of concentration of hotels. Obviously, the Dallas area has enough hotels to accommodate the championship game. No one has ever questioned that.

It looks like there are about a half dozen hotels near the mall at the corner of the freeway and a major highway. That's probably the best concentration in the area.
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Chatty was a downtown/city center experience whereas Frisco is a suburban experience. The metro downtown area for Frisco is Dallas, 40 miles away from Pizza Hut Stadium. Frisco is like most any suburban experience in American; all activities begin with a car ride.
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JayJ79 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:And I bet I know where people would meet up the night before:
http://www.thirdbase-sportsbar.com/
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Couldn't they have found a nicer part of Texas than the asshole to have the game at?
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houndawg wrote:Couldn't they have found a nicer part of Texas than the asshole to have the game at?
The real question is couldn't a nicer part of Texas expressed any interest in hosting the game?

The NCAA didn't search anyone out. They just picked the best bid offered to them.
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T-Dog wrote:Finley Stadium is technically downtown, but it was "other side of the tracks" downtown. All the downtown hotels were a dozen blocks away.
I stayed at the Marriott where the Hens stayed in 2007 and it was a very short walk.
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CatMom wrote:The only assumption I am making is that SLC fans will go even if they're team isn't in it.
That's a HUGE assumption IMO.
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JayJ79 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:And I bet I know where people would meet up the night before:
http://www.thirdbase-sportsbar.com/
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Thats the song I was thinking of when I saw the website to that Frisco sportsbar.. :nod:
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Re: The (real) reasons why Frisco was chosen

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GrizFan5 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:[
Not true according to hotel.com:
1 hotel, Comfort Inn Suites, 400 yards from Frisco Park. And I just plugged in 1/6/11-1/9/11, and its sold out already.
11 hotels within 5 miles.
44 hotels within 10 miles.

Pizza Hut Park says a doz hotels within 13 miles? Hotels.com lists 92.

Sounds like hotels ain't gonna be a problem.

http://www.hotels.com/search.do?pointNa ... .0&rooms=1
Hotels.com is notariously inaccurate, in terms of describing the distance of hotels from various things. The Pizza Hit Park website would likely be much more accurate. Again, on the closest hotel according to the Pizza Hut Park webiste: "Comfort Suites
9700 Dallas Parkway
Frisco, TX 75034
Call 972-668-9700
Distance: .79 Miles"

The stadium is located on 140 acres. The address is presumably for the park, not the stadium. Thus, the hotel.com distances are likely skewed a bit. Even on hotels.com, the next closest hotel is 3.5 miles away.

Maybe you are okay with staying 14 miles from the venue, but I'm not.

Anyway, the gripe isn't just with the distance; it's with the lack of concentration of hotels. Obviously, the Dallas area has enough hotels to accommodate the championship game. No one has ever questioned that.

It looks like there are about a half dozen hotels near the mall at the corner of the freeway and a major highway. That's probably the best concentration in the area.
BS. Pizza Hut Park probably just picked a doz to list. There's no way that there are just a doz hotels within 13 miles when hotels.com shows 92 and Frisco is in the 4th largest metro area in the country. :roll: Even if hotels.com was off by an avg of a mile or so for every hotel there is still probably around 90 hotels within 13 miles, because some hotels that they are showing might be further, but other hotels that they show as a little further might be closer. And I'm not going to mapquest 92 hotels to prove my point.

Travelocity also shows 11 hotels within 5 miles and 33 within 10 miles (to 42 for hotels.com). And they list the distances down to the one hundrenth of a mile.
http://travel.travelocity.com/hotel/Hot ... 8100410740
But wait, let me guess, you are going to say Travelocity is notoriously inaccurate too. :roll:

Saying you'll have to stay 14 miles away is retarded. If JMU makes it again I'll be staying at one of those 11 hotels listed within 5 miles, be they 3,4,5,6, miles away. I'll get there the night or 2 before. I'll meet up with JMU fans. The day of the game I'll drive to the stadium, tailgate all day, go to the game, and then go back to my hotel or watering hole where JMU fans are at. I won't care if I'm staying a measly 3,4,5,6 miles from the stadium.
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Baylor Regional Medical Center is 9 miles from Pizza Hut park. There are probably 30 hotels right around the hospital, which would all be within 10 miles of Pizza Hut park.

There are plenty of hotels. And why can't you just take a cab 10 miles to your hotel? Maybe the hotels will even run shuttles to the game?
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jd of de wrote:Chatty was a downtown/city center experience whereas Frisco is a suburban experience. The metro downtown area for Frisco is Dallas, 40 miles away from Pizza Hut Stadium. Frisco is like most any suburban experience in American; all activities begin with a car ride.
BS. Pizza Hut Park is 27 miles from smack dab in the center of downtown Dallas. And you're going to start hitting downtown Dallas in less than that. Oh wait, you're going to claim mapquest is historically inaccurate too. :roll: I wish the game had stayed in Chatty too, but quit making sh*t up.

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BDKJMU wrote:BS. Pizza Hut Park is 27 miles from smack dab in the center of downtown Dallas.
Does it really matter if it's 37, 27, 17 or 7? If Frisco is a bedroom community, it's a bedroom community. As I said 6 months ago, Frisco very well may fall into the category of "a nice place to live, but I'd never want to visit there".
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danefan wrote:Baylor Regional Medical Center is 9 miles from Pizza Hut park. There are probably 30 hotels right around the hospital, which would all be within 10 miles of Pizza Hut park.

There are plenty of hotels. And why can't you just take a cab 10 miles to your hotel? Maybe the hotels will even run shuttles to the game?
You can always spot someone who has never been to the championship game in Chatty. They don't understand that people tend to come and go from their downtowns hotels all day long, sometimes bringing all of the family and sometimes leaving some of the family. Getting in a cab or rental car multiple times a day was never necessary in Chatty.
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GrizFan5 wrote:
danefan wrote:Baylor Regional Medical Center is 9 miles from Pizza Hut park. There are probably 30 hotels right around the hospital, which would all be within 10 miles of Pizza Hut park.

There are plenty of hotels. And why can't you just take a cab 10 miles to your hotel? Maybe the hotels will even run shuttles to the game?
You can always spot someone who has never been to the championship game in Chatty. They don't understand that people tend to come and go from their downtowns hotels all day long, sometimes bringing all of the family and sometimes leaving some of the family. Getting in a cab or rental car multiple times a day was never necessary in Chatty.
Great - so stay in Dallas and come and go from your hotel all day long. Then get in your rental car once and go to Frisco for the game.
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danefan wrote:Baylor Regional Medical Center is 9 miles from Pizza Hut park. There are probably 30 hotels right around the hospital, which would all be within 10 miles of Pizza Hut park.

There are plenty of hotels. And why can't you just take a cab 10 miles to your hotel? Maybe the hotels will even run shuttles to the game?
I can not believe people are acting like getting to game once you are there is gonna be a problem. I'm pretty sure there are gonna be a lot of options for you to get to the game. If the Griz make it all this shit pretty well in place and you already know what your modes of transport are before you ever even get on plane to go there.

A fucking hotel is 11 miles, 20 miles, whatever away from the park...BFD.

I loved Chatty, if we get the chance to make a game in Frisco I'm gonna have a GD blast there as well...that's how I roll.
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[quote="BDKJMU
I'm sure there's just as much hotels, restaurants, bars within walking distance (1-2 miles). quote]

BDK, this was your original statement that set off this discussion. Do you care to defend this statement, instead of running off providing information about how many hotels are within 15 miles or whatever?

How many hotels, restauarants and bars are within walking distance of the stadium (1-2) miles? Even your vaunted hotel.com source showed only 1 hotel without 3.5 miles.

Remember you said you were "sure" of this.

Or, you could just say: "I was wrong. I didn't know what I was talking about. I just made this up."
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:I loved Chatty, if we get the chance to make a game in Frisco I'm gonna have a GD blast there as well...that's how I roll.
This is the disconnect. People like you and many others on this board are there no matter where the game is, so how you roll is really irrelevant to this.
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danefan wrote:
GrizFan5 wrote:
You can always spot someone who has never been to the championship game in Chatty. They don't understand that people tend to come and go from their downtowns hotels all day long, sometimes bringing all of the family and sometimes leaving some of the family. Getting in a cab or rental car multiple times a day was never necessary in Chatty.
Great - so stay in Dallas and come and go from your hotel all day long. Then get in your rental car once and go to Frisco for the game.
I want to be able to mingle with the fans of my school and the other school, for the several days before the game, the day of the game, and the morning/day after. I want the convience of walking everywhere. I don't want to drive everywhere, or take a cab. I don't want the fans to be spread all over the Dallas metro area.

Why can't you admit that this is a big difference between Frisco and Chatty?
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GrizFan5 wrote:
danefan wrote:Baylor Regional Medical Center is 9 miles from Pizza Hut park. There are probably 30 hotels right around the hospital, which would all be within 10 miles of Pizza Hut park.

There are plenty of hotels. And why can't you just take a cab 10 miles to your hotel? Maybe the hotels will even run shuttles to the game?
You can always spot someone who has never been to the championship game in Chatty. They don't understand that people tend to come and go from their downtowns hotels all day long, sometimes bringing all of the family and sometimes leaving some of the family. Getting in a cab or rental car multiple times a day was never necessary in Chatty.
Horse shit. I've been to them at Marshall, and Chatty and there was never a problem getting anywhere. We stayed in Charleston, WV in 1995 and had a bus ride of like 35-40 miles to get there on game day. All we did was party and then make sure we caught the bus when it was leaving. Acting like you've been there and have this all figured out as too the difficulty is as I said...hose shit.

I assume you live here in Montana so talking about 11 miles as if it is climbing Mt. Everest just doesn't add up to me. I travel 11 miles to go get lunch most days. :lol:
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GrizFan5 wrote:Why can't you admit that this is a big difference between Frisco and Chatty?
Good luck with that one.
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