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I have no problem with large businesses. I am like most opposed to politicians handing them favors. And no Bernie is in no way shape or form pro business. He is pro free stuff.
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OL FU wrote:I have no problem with large businesses. I am like most opposed to politicians handing them favors. And no Bernie is in no way shape or form pro business. He is pro free stuff.
He sponsored legislation to provide low interest loans to small businesses. You said you couldn't find anything. :kisswink:

Now...does that make him pro-business? Of course not.

I don't have a problem with large businesses either. That's enevitable. But when they become monopolistic and are able to manipulate markets through controlling government, that becomes a problem.

Not to mention anti-capalistic. :nod:
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kalm wrote:
OL FU wrote:I have no problem with large businesses. I am like most opposed to politicians handing them favors. And no Bernie is in no way shape or form pro business. He is pro free stuff.
He sponsored legislation to provide low interest loans to small businesses. You said you couldn't find anything. :kisswink:

Now...does that make him pro-business? Of course not.

I don't have a problem with large businesses either. That's enevitable. But when they become monopolistic and are able to manipulate markets through controlling government, that becomes a problem.

Not to mention anti-capalistic. :nod:
good glad to know Bernie is a capalitalist :lol:
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OL FU wrote:
kalm wrote:
He sponsored legislation to provide low interest loans to small businesses. You said you couldn't find anything. :kisswink:

Now...does that make him pro-business? Of course not.

I don't have a problem with large businesses either. That's enevitable. But when they become monopolistic and are able to manipulate markets through controlling government, that becomes a problem.

Not to mention anti-capalistic. :nod:
good glad to know Bernie is a capalitalist :lol:
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OL FU wrote:I have no problem with large businesses. I am like most opposed to politicians handing them favors. And no Bernie is in no way shape or form pro business. He is pro free stuff.
OL FU you obviously didn't get the memo so I'll catch you up

Klam's a thoughtful moderate so you should really consider his viewpoint when he's mansplaining Bernie to you
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CID1990 wrote:
OL FU wrote:I have no problem with large businesses. I am like most opposed to politicians handing them favors. And no Bernie is in no way shape or form pro business. He is pro free stuff.
OL FU you obviously didn't get the memo so I'll catch you up

Klam's a thoughtful moderate so you should really consider his viewpoint when he's mansplaining Bernie to you
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Back on theme. Gary still polling at 12% nationally. :thumb:

Guess I better send him a check. :mrgreen:
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Ivytalk wrote:Back on theme. Gary still polling at 12% nationally. :thumb:

Guess I better send him a check. :mrgreen:
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The road to a Johnson victory is long and hard. And it can be full of curves. Mostly to the right.
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I just want him to have a spot in the debates.


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89Hen wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Back on theme. Gary still polling at 12% nationally. :thumb:

Guess I better send him a check. :mrgreen:
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89Hen wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Back on theme. Gary still polling at 12% nationally. :thumb:

Guess I better send him a check. :mrgreen:
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Not being facetious what is the alternative ?
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OL FU wrote:
89Hen wrote: I have a bridge to sell. Send me a check.
Not being facetious what is the alternative ?
Gary Johnson is alternative, but not an alternative for me.
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CID1990 wrote:I just want him to have a spot in the debates.
So his numbers go down?
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89Hen wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I just want him to have a spot in the debates.
So his numbers go down?
If his numbers go down it will be primarily because of the way the media portrays him.
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: So his numbers go down?
If his numbers go down it will be primarily because of the way the media portrays him.
I agree to an extent. If it turns out to be a 3-way debate, he will automatically impress people as honest (in contrast to Hillary/Trump) and sane (in contrast to Trump/Hillary). And, at the VPOTUS level, Bill Weld is certainly no Admiral Stockdale. The media will likely try their usual riff that Libertarians are kooks, droogs, and isolationists, but Johnson's confident, low-key TV image will dispel that meme pretty quickly. :twocents:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
If his numbers go down it will be primarily because of the way the media portrays him.
I agree to an extent. If it turns out to be a 3-way debate, he will automatically impress people as honest (in contrast to Hillary/Trump) and sane (in contrast to Trump/Hillary). And, at the VPOTUS level, Bill Weld is certainly no Admiral Stockdale. The media will likely try their usual riff that Libertarians are kooks, droogs, and isolationists, but Johnson's confident, low-key TV image will dispel that meme pretty quickly. :twocents:

:nod:

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89Hen wrote:
OL FU wrote:
Not being facetious what is the alternative ?
Gary Johnson is alternative, but not an alternative for me.
Out of curiosity, who is your alternative?
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Just got a fundraising pitch from the RNC. The "survey" asked me whether I planned to vote for Trump (I checked "NO" and wrote "Hell" underneath); whether I supported the local GOP Congressional candidate (I checked "Unsure" and said that I might go Libertarian); and what the two biggest election issues are (I said "economy" and "terrorism").

Then it asked me for my "most generous contribution." In my best Dean Wormer imitation, I put down "ZERO POINT ZERO." :mrgreen:

Nothing on there that will land me on a no-fly list, is there? :lol:
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Ivytalk wrote:Just got a fundraising pitch from the RNC. The "survey" asked me whether I planned to vote for Trump (I checked "NO" and wrote "Hell" underneath); whether I supported the local GOP Congressional candidate (I checked "Unsure" and said that I might go Libertarian); and what the two biggest election issues are (I said "economy" and "terrorism").

Then it asked me for my "most generous contribution." In my best Dean Wormer imitation, I put down "ZERO POINT ZERO." :mrgreen:

Nothing on there that will land me on a no-fly list, is there? :lol:
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OL FU wrote:
89Hen wrote: Gary Johnson is alternative, but not an alternative for me.
Out of curiosity, who is your alternative?
I don't have one OL. Never claimed to have one. That's why this is so disheartening. I actually agree with a lot of GJ's positions, but taking the "I side with..." test, I don't ever recall scoring so low with my best matches.
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Ivytalk wrote:Libertarians are kooks, droogs, and isolationists
They are.
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OL FU wrote:
89Hen wrote: Gary Johnson is alternative, but not an alternative for me.
Out of curiosity, who is your alternative?
Grover Norquist
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Grizalltheway wrote:
OL FU wrote:
Out of curiosity, who is your alternative?
Grover Norquist
This is the first mention of his name that I've heard this election cycle. :lol: We haven't heard much from him (or the Koch brothers) this time around.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
OL FU wrote:
Out of curiosity, who is your alternative?
Grover Norquist
The no taxation with representation party :thumb:
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