our next president...

[Chizzang]

Explain this to me:

1) Is it bad that I don't care who our next president is...
2) and that I don't believe (regardless of who it is) that it'll make much difference

[dbackjon]

Explain this to me:

1) Is it bad that I don't care who our next president is...
2) and that I don't believe (regardless of who it is) that it'll make much difference

It makes a difference - if you care about:

The environment
Equality
The Economy

I know it is the bored hipster thing to say that it doesn't make a difference, but in reality, there is a world of difference between the two parties.

If nothing else, up to 4 SCOTUS Justices could die/retire in the next 5 years. Who do you want on the court - crazed ideologues like Thomas/Scalia/Alito, or thoughtful jurists like Ginsburg?

[kalm]

Explain this to me:

1) Is it bad that I don't care who our next president is...
2) and that I don't believe (regardless of who it is) that it'll make much difference

It makes a difference - if you care about:

The environment
Equality
The Economy

I know it is the bored hipster thing to say that it doesn't make a difference, but in reality, there is a world of difference between the two parties.

If nothing else, up to 4 SCOTUS Justices could die/retire in the next 5 years. Who do you want on the court - crazed ideologues like Thomas/Scalia/Alito, or thoughtful jurists like Ginsburg?

Oooohhh. I like this thread already.

[93henfan]

Anyone but Hillary.

[Ibanez]

Anyone but Hillary.

Has anyone looked at the Cliff Clavin Theory?

[travelinman67]

Anyone but Hillary.

Still have a few of those bumper stickers left over from 2008...

...given to me by a large (>250 employees) client...WOMAN/owner.

[travelinman67]

Explain this to me:

1) Is it bad that I don't care who our next president is...
2) and that I don't believe (regardless of who it is) that it'll make much difference

Apathy IS NEVER RIGHT. A large reason we are in the current predicament is due to apathetic/low info/single issue voters.

95% of African American voters voted for Obama primarily because of his skin color...

...thinking he would "even things" for minorities.

Really.

Dback not only wants a "progressive" who will represent his minority opinions, but wishes to SILENCE and PUNISH those who hold differing viewpoints. Again, an equally dysfunctional approach.

[Ibanez]

Anyone but Hillary.

Still have a few of those bumper stickers left over from 2008...

...given to me by a large (>250 employees) client...WOMAN/owner.

Sadly, I know too many women that are voting for her only because she's a she.


Allegedly.

[JohnStOnge]

If nothing else, up to 4 SCOTUS Justices could die/retire in the next 5 years. Who do you want on the court - crazed ideologues like Thomas/Scalia/Alito, or thoughtful jurists like Ginsburg?

I wonder if you really believe that. I wonder because the truth is that Thomas/Scalia/Alito believe at least to some extent in following the Constitution while Ginsburg doesn't give a crap about the Constitution at all. She's completely outcome oriented.

I guess you could say that all of them are ideologues. But with the first three the "ideology" is the idea that the Constitution should be followed while with Ginsburg the "ideology" is that the US Constitution is deeply flawed and a judge should find excuses for not following it.

The good news for your side is that liberals can be confident that a liberal who doesn't give a crap about the Constitution will act like a liberal who doesn't give a crap about the Constitution when they are appointed to the Supreme Court. It's pretty obvious that conservatives take much more of a chance when they appoint somebody they THINK is going to be inclined to follow the Constitution. All you have to do is look at big mistakes like Earl Warren, Sandra Day O'Conner, and now Anthony Kennedy to see that.

[D1B]

Explain this to me:

1) Is it bad that I don't care who our next president is...
2) and that I don't believe (regardless of who it is) that it'll make much difference

Your fatalism has become tiresome.

[D1B]

Explain this to me:

1) Is it bad that I don't care who our next president is...
2) and that I don't believe (regardless of who it is) that it'll make much difference

Apathy IS NEVER RIGHT. A large reason we are in the current predicament is due to apathetic/low info/single issue voters.

95% of African American voters voted for Obama primarily because of his skin color...

...thinking he would "even things" for minorities.

Really.

Dback not only wants a "progressive" who will represent his minority opinions, but wishes to SILENCE and PUNISH those who hold differing viewpoints. Again, an equally dysfunctional approach.

Most dumb whites voted for Romney because of his skin color.

[kalm]

Explain this to me:

1) Is it bad that I don't care who our next president is...
2) and that I don't believe (regardless of who it is) that it'll make much difference

In general, I agree with you but...

I voted for Nader thinking the same thing and I don't think Gore would have invaded Iraq.

[travelinman67]

Apathy IS NEVER RIGHT. A large reason we are in the current predicament is due to apathetic/low info/single issue voters.

95% of African American voters voted for Obama primarily because of his skin color...

...thinking he would "even things" for minorities.

Really.

Dback not only wants a "progressive" who will represent his minority opinions, but wishes to SILENCE and PUNISH those who hold differing viewpoints. Again, an equally dysfunctional approach.

Most dumb whites voted for Obama because of his skin color.

FIFY

[D1B]

Most dumb whites voted for Obama because of his skin color.

FIFY

Breitbartman6.93 fail

[AZGrizFan]

Explain this to me:

1) Is it bad that I don't care who our next president is...
2) and that I don't believe (regardless of who it is) that it'll make much difference

It makes a difference - if you care about:

The environment
Equality
The Economy

I know it is the bored hipster thing to say that it doesn't make a difference, but in reality, there is a world of difference between the two parties.

If nothing else, up to 4 SCOTUS Justices could die/retire in the next 5 years. Who do you want on the court - crazed ideologues like Thomas/Scalia/Alito, or thoughtful jurists like Ginsburg?

[D1B]

Whites without college degrees vote republican- fact.

[AZGrizFan]

Whites without college degrees vote republican- fact.

They haven't gone to college and gotten brainwashed.

[D1B]

It makes a difference - if you care about:

The environment
Equality
The Economy

I know it is the bored hipster thing to say that it doesn't make a difference, but in reality, there is a world of difference between the two parties.

If nothing else, up to 4 SCOTUS Justices could die/retire in the next 5 years. Who do you want on the court - crazed ideologues like Thomas/Scalia/Alito, or thoughtful jurists like Ginsburg?

Z - another 1percenter who never created a job for anyone, knows the world is fucked primarily due to unchecked capitalism, is in a scramble to accumulate wealth at all cost and spend this dishonest wealth on leisure. Meantime he leaves an utterly fucked up world to his children.

[AZGrizFan]

Z - another 1percenter who never created a job for anyone, knows the world is fucked primarily due to unchecked capitalism, is in a scramble to accumulate wealth at all cost and spend this dishonest wealth on leisure. Meantime he leaves an utterly fucked up world to his children.

Damn....he's onto me....

[Chizzang]

Whites without college degrees vote republican- fact.

They haven't gone to college and gotten brainwashed.

Yeah...
because nobody from the state of Utah has been brainwashed
just ask the 3 million Mormons

No brainwashing there

[AZGrizFan]

They haven't gone to college and gotten brainwashed.

Yeah...
because nobody from the state of Utah has been brainwashed
just ask the 3 million Mormons

No brainwashing there

No, they're brainwashed too....no argument there.

[D1B]

Whites without college degrees vote republican- fact.

They haven't gone to college and gotten brainwashed.

That didn't go to college cuz theyre fucking dumb and lazy. They're the confederate flag asses, religious dipshits, Brownshirt terrorists who do the dirty work for the 1 preventers, and old people scared shitless from listening to conservative radio.

[AZGrizFan]

They haven't gone to college and gotten brainwashed.

That didn't go to college cuz theyre fucking dumb and lazy. They're the confederate flag asses, religious dipshits, Brownshirt terrorists who do the dirty work for the 1 preventers, and old people scared shitless from listening to conservative radio.

Thanks, Mr. Massive Generalization...

[Grizalltheway]

Yeah...
because nobody from the state of Utah has been brainwashed
just ask the 3 million Mormons

No brainwashing there

No, they're brainwashed too....no argument there.

So, can we agree that there's very little independent thought left on either side of the spectrum?

[kalm]

No, they're brainwashed too....no argument there.

So, can we agree that there's very little independent thought left on either side of the spectrum?

I can agree with that.